From gem@rellim.com Sat Apr 14 01:36:55 2001 From: gem@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]April Newsletter Message-ID: From gem@rellim.com Sat Apr 14 01:52:23 2001 From: gem@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]April Newsletter Message-ID: Oregon Pilots Association CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: April 19, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Brad Stankey, Central Oregon Soaring Club Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar "Let's go up for a spin." If the intrepid pilot making the offer really means, "spin" like, you know, rotating around the C.G. in a stalled condition irrespective of its relation to the horizon, politely decline the invitation because you have to cut the lawn (even if there is snow on the ground)! Now get this: I am a great advocate of spin training, but there is an informed way and then there is the direct path to the mortuary. The informed way considers many factors. Let's start with the pilot. No matter how many times you've seen him spin a plane, Find out how much he knows about the machine he's flying, its limitations, how many turns does he do in the spin, left spin right spin, power management, H.E. double toothpicks, I can ho on and on with this. Check out the airplane itself. There's always a fudge factor when certifying an aircraft. GAMA wants to sell airplanes. For example, rudder authority is key to recovery. Ever wonder why some planes have a notch in the elevators to accommodate rudder throw? Wouldn't it be nice to have span wise elevators—easily done if the rudder was totally above the elevators? Not really. Enough rudder has to extend beneath the shadow of the horizontal components to effect recovery from a full-blown spin. Full-blown spin? Isn't a spin a spin? Nope! A one turn spin is all that's required to certify a single-engine aircraft, yet, aerodynamicists will tell you that one turn is only a spin in its incipient stage. If you've REALLY done spins you'll remember that the first turn was slow and manageable. After one and a half to two turns it really winds up and now you're in a real spin. I've flown planes like the F4U that, after applying recovery measures, took at least four turns to recover. Dropping the gear to throw the C.G. forward could reduce turns required to recover. There, I touched upon another factor to consider. I once got into a deep stall in a Citabria (Airbatic spelled backward). I recognized it as a C.G. problem and dared not add power to blow the tail up for fear of torquing into a spin. I, in the back seat, unbuckled and hung over my very lightweight student and the aircraft came out of it. DC-9s and 727s got into deep stalls because the engine configuration coupled with the loading blanked out the tail feathers. When entering spin conditions in some aircraft, the plane does not spin. I have a long story about one that fits that description. The F7U Cutlass didn't know how to spin. It went into what was termed as autorotation - - this maneuver defies description. I'll tell you all about it some day. If you think C.G. does not affect General Aviation aircraft, you're DEAD wrong. I have to be especially careful with my Bonanza. I don't play around in the stall region with less than half fuel aboard for C.G. reasons. The two place Pitts could switch from a regular spin into an unrecoverable flat spin in a heartbeat. Cherokee 140s have been known to flat spin in because they ignored the fuel load for utility operations. Hey folks, I could go on and on and on on this subject but space limits me. Activities Past and Future // by Dean Cameron Last month we were the guests of Electronic International for our monthly meeting. They make great engine analyzing equipment and host a pretty good potluck dinner. We had a great turnout and I want to thank Tyler Speed and the rest of the crew at Electronic International for their hospitality. Everyone learned a little something and had a good time. Electronics International held a drawing for a Volt/Ammeter. Mary Lou Shortreed was the lucky winner. It should work well in their Cardinal. This just proves that great things can happen when you are a member of the Central Oregon OPA. Last month's fly-out was great. We didn't make the Tillamook Naval Air Museum but still had a great time. We will make the coast some time this spring. I'm sure of it. Instead of the coast, we diverted to "Plan B" which was a poker run to several local airports. We flew up to a private strip on Lake Billy Chinook on the south side of the Metolius Arm. This strip was just paved last year and is in great condition. It's 3300 feet long and is a good safety runway to know about. We were greeted by a local resident who is also a pilot. He said we were welcome anytime. Unfortunately I can't remember his name, but if you stop in there he lives in the home on the north side of the runway and about midfield. Look him up and say "Hi". The next destination was Sunriver for lunch at the Trout House. Don Wilfong had the luck of the Irish with him that day and won the poker hand. He seems to be pretty good at poker. Last summer he won a watch in the Klamath Falls poker run. We need to keep an eye on this guy. APRIL MEETING (April 19th): This meeting will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. Brad Stankey with the Central Oregon Soaring Club will be our guest speaker. If you haven't noticed, the soaring group has been pretty active at the airport over the past month. We can expect to see them a lot as the thermals get stronger. Brad will talk about the local club, the joys of no engine flight, a little about safety, and glider requirements in the pattern. Social will start at 6:00 with the traditional great Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. (I'm hoping for a lemon cream pie this month.) FLY-OUT APRIL 21st: Tillamook is still a great destination and there is no reason we shouldn't keep trying till the weather cooperates. So this month we will once again plan for the Tillamook Naval Air Station Museum. Planes include a 1917 Spad, PT-17 Stearman, P-51 Mustang, P-38 Lightning, B-25 Mitchell, F-14 and much more. We can taxi right up to the museum and they have a nice cafeteria inside for lunch. Admission is only $8. If weather is a problem to the coast, we'll stay on the east side of the Cascades and fly north to Hood River or south to Chiloquin depending on weather. In either case, we'll start in Bend at 9:00 in front of the flight services building. Hope to see you there! MAY 26th: Bend Airport Open House – Mark your calendars early for this one. This is the Saturday of Memorial weekend. We are going to be holding an open house at the Bend airport. We hope all pilots in Central Oregon will join in. We are inviting the community to come out and see for themselves what a great group of people we pilots are. There will be a static display (wash that belly off and get that airplane out there!); scenic flights handled by the Flight Shop; open houses presented by Air Life, Lancair, Precise Flight, Electronic International, Sun Air, and more. We'll have several of the corporate planes on the ramp along with our GA aircraft. We would like everyone to get their craft out of the hangar for the day so the public can see how many planes really use the Bend airport. We expect to have several fly-in visitors that weekend too. More details will be coming at our next meeting and newsletter. If you have any great ideas or know of anyone with a special airplane that would be fun to see, let us know. The committee for this event includes: Dale Evans, Vern Bartley, Ken Sandine, Gary Miller, Mike Schrader, and Dean Cameron. We would appreciate any and all help and ideas. Our next committee meeting will be April 17th and you are welcome to attend. July 21st : Sunriver Fire Department Pancake Breakfast / 8:00 AM - This is the third annual pancake breakfast and well be held at the Sunriver Airport. For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Member Notes WANTED: A nice short field aircraft. Preferably a 4 place Cessna, but will consider others. Something clean and solid in the price range of free to $40,000. If you have one or know of a plane which might be coming available, call Steve Wright, 383- 8525 Thanks! NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 Fax: 541-549-1179 e-mail cheressehoward@cs.com Please submit May contributions by April 30th From aerial@teleport.com Mon Apr 16 14:12:06 2001 From: aerial@teleport.com (Vern Bartley) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 06:12:06 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Can't make this meeting Message-ID: <001501c0c676$d6b4fd40$0182a8c0@aerial> Unfortunately, I will be out of town this Thursday and unable to make = the monthly meeting. See all you folks next month. Vern Bartley From gem@rellim.com Mon Apr 16 19:47:32 2001 From: gem@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]Virus Message-ID: From gem@rellim.com Mon Apr 16 20:03:15 2001 From: gem@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]Virus Message-ID: From gem@catbert.rellim.com Mon Apr 16 20:16:29 2001 From: gem@catbert.rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:16:29 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Virus Message-ID: <200104161916.f3GJGTY16827@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Well it only took 4 days for someone to try to post a virus to the Central Oregon OPA mailing list. Monday morning at 8:38am, someone on a bendcable connection tried to post the Hybris a.k.a. hahahasexyfun.net virus. The mail list software caught it so no harm was done. If you are on a bendcable connection then you need to double check your PC for virii right away. Everyone else needs to practice safe hex every day. See you all at the Thursday Potluck! RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From Gindevans@aol.com Tue Apr 17 04:55:15 2001 From: Gindevans@aol.com (Gindevans@aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:55:15 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Open House Contacts Message-ID: Thanks for the prophylactics, Gary! To the Committee: Please scan the following list of contacts I have made regarding participation in and/or publicity for the Bend Airport Open House, so we won't spend much time on this subject at our Wednesday, April 17 meeting. Who have I missed? OPA Chapters and Board Members - Invitation to fly in Civil Air Patrol Deputy for Cadets - Work the ramp, CAP table in the display hangar. FLYER Calendar of Events AOPA Pilot/ASN Updates Announcement in City Monthly mailing to tenants Angel Flight - Display table in hangar Washington Pilots Association Posted on their web site (missed their newsletter by one day) Bend Bulletin Discover Magazine Economic Development for Central Oregon-Roger Lee Bend Chamber of Commerce Business Journal article and Calendar of Events OSP C-185 w/ antennas static display and ODFW display in hangar describing radio tracking projects Press Kit Bend Bulletin The Source Cascade Business Journal Waterston/Nelson Productions Oregon Dept Aviation KBND/FLRR/KTWS/KMTK KTV2 Bend City Council Deschutes County Commissioners I have spoken to reporters and other individuals at the above, and will prepare a press kit that should be delivered to them a week to 10 days prior to the event, plus having kits available for them at the airport on the 26th. Thus, we will need to have a FINAL agenda no later than the 15th. What else needs to be included? I thought we should have a paragraph or two giving the history (been there since 1942) of the airport, wartime training use, to the present. I will try to update the 1995 economic data used in the State Aeronautics report on value of airports. I have a detailed chronology of the lackluster oversight and management of the airport by the City that has lead to the present state of affairs, which I thought might be useful as a lead-in to the budget request for an on-site Airport Manager. Thoughts and suggestions please. Thanks -- Dale From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Apr 26 16:39:33 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:39:33 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]State OPA Board Meeting Message-ID: <7c.14d11dc0.28199b35@aol.com> The Central Oregon Chapter is host for the Spring OPA Board meeting, Sunday, May 6, at the Electronics International, Inc. hangar. I think it will under way by 10:00 AM. The board meeting is open to all OPA members. If you plan to attend and stay for lunch ($5), please RSVP, so the caterer (Virginia) will know how many to expect. Thanks -- Dale From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Apr 26 18:12:37 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:12:37 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]State OPA Board Meeting References: <7c.14d11dc0.28199b35@aol.com> Message-ID: <000801c0ce74$17c52c60$0500a8c0@empnet.com> Dale, I would love to be at the meeting, however, Wendy has a seminar in Eugene on that day and I promised to take her there. Wish we were around to help. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: [Co-opa]State OPA Board Meeting > The Central Oregon Chapter is host for the Spring OPA Board meeting, Sunday, > May 6, at the Electronics International, Inc. hangar. I think it will under > way by 10:00 AM. The board meeting is open to all OPA members. If you plan > to attend and stay for lunch ($5), please RSVP, so the caterer (Virginia) > will know how many to expect. Thanks -- Dale > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Apr 27 14:36:55 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Vern Bartley) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:36:55 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]State OPA Board Meeting References: <7c.14d11dc0.28199b35@aol.com> Message-ID: <003801c0cf1f$212543c0$0182a8c0@aerial> Dale, can you tell me how long the OPA board meeting usually takes? Is = it over after lunch or is it an all day event?? thanks Vern From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Apr 28 01:41:52 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:41:52 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]State OPA Board Meeting Message-ID: <44.d751ae4.281b6bd0@aol.com> Vern - They typically start at 10, lunch, finish about 1 or 2 pm. We may have a special insurance seminar which could add some time. --Dale From co-opa@rellim.com Wed May 9 07:52:28 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter Message-ID: Oregon Pilots Association CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: May 17, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Brian Walker, "The Rocket Man" Brian is designing a one man rocket he intends to ride to an altitude of 35 miles. Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar Do you fly by the numbers? Your winged buckboard's handbook provides a batch of numbers to use when holding the reins of a multitude of Pegasuses (is the plural Pegasi?) pulling you around the sky. Noteworthy is the fact that manufacturers sometimes exaggerate the numbers or, if within acceptable limits of accuracy, derive them using test pilots flying a prototype of models yet to come off the production line. For instance, highly skilled pilots taking off of clean runways, in a perfect atmospheric environment, using dent and paint free machines with over inflated tires, determine take off distances. Does your handbook differentiate between Va (maneuvering speed) and Vb (turbulence penetration speed). Va is the limiting air speed at which full control deflection will produce the aircraft's design limit load factor, exceed the limit and you'll bend the machine. However, if the 50% safety factor is exceeded, your baggage will collapse the floor of the compartment onto control cables while the wings and engine may decide to go their separate ways. No problem if you're flying a Cirrus. Consider Va. A pullout puts an upward load on the wing and a downward load on the horizontal tail whereas an upward gust (Vb) puts an up load on both surfaces. Many treat Va and Vb as the same. Common to both is the reduction in airspeed with a reduction in weight and location of the center of gravity. I guarantee you that it's worth the bother to compute for the change in airspeed with respect to weight. Use this equation and if you're really interested in it's derivation, contact me: New Va = vNew Weight/Old Weight times the Original Va (using my Bonanza's #s): New Va =v 2600# (new wt.)/2900# (old wt.) x 120 kts CAS (rounded to the nearest whole number) New Va = v .897 X 120 kts CAS = .95 x 120 = 114 kts CAS, the new Va (that's an answer, but where is the c.g.? To obtain minimum FAA stall speeds for certification manufacturers, employing the same type of pilot and aircraft described above, use an approach to the stall at a rate of minus one knot per second, perfectly balanced flight in smooth air, and an aft c.g. Operationally, do you consider this realistic? 1.3 Vso. Familiar? Sure it is. It's 1.3 times the stalling speed or the minimum steady flight speed in the landing configuration, and it's the airspeed recommended for your approach to a landing. This gives you a 30% safety margin, or does it? That's fine and dandy if you're a bachelor person. Married? Add a couple of knots. Children? Add another knot for each one. Why? Well, I'll explain that in the next newsletter. Am I telling you to ignore your instruments? NO WAY! I am strongly suggesting that you know their limitations. Use them as the large end of a funnel that narrows toward a "seat of the pants" refinement that will be realized with experience. Bend Airport Layout Plan // by Dale Evans A revised update of the Airport Layout Plan for the Bend Municipal Airport will be presented for public review by the City Public Works Department at the AirLife of Oregon hangar. Originally scheduled for May 22nd at 6:00 PM, this meeting will likely be deferred to May 30th. An update of the ALP is required to document the changes that have occurred at the airport since the 1994 Master Plan Update, and to describe the nature of expected developments during the next 20 years. The ALP has been revised since you last reviewed it. One of the principal improvements shown in the revision is construction of a new runway approximately 110 feet East of the present location, and removal of the existing runway. This will meet FAA standards for runway separation from the West parallel taxiway, and will also allow fuller utilization of the remaining space on the West side of the runway. Nelson Road would be relocated as described in earlier proposals, but the newly constructed runway would only be extended South to where the Airport Development Zone meets the EFU property, approximately 200 feet. In the long term, the remainder of the planned 5,500 foot runway will be an extension to the North. Some of the airport neighbors have been vocal critics of airport operations, and have vigorously expressed their concerns about the effects of future hypothetical developments on their rural life style adjacent to the airport. As a result, the ALP being presented now represents a substantial compromise with the neighbors in an effort to address their concerns. Relocation of Nelson Road, and 200 feet of additional runway and graded over run, however, will significantly improve operational safety at the airport. The next steps in securing approval of the ALP by the City Council, and subsequent acceptance by the County Commission of the ALP and Updated Airport Master Plan, are pure politics. In the past, we have not made a special effort to secure a large turnout of pilots and airport users at these meetings, but now it is critical that you come to the ALP review meeting. Sign in, fill out a comment sheet, and express your support for approval of the revised ALP. My reading of the FARs makes it clear that failure by the City to update its Airport Master Plan in a timely manner jeopardizes its qualification to continue to receive FAA funding under the Airport Improvement Program, and would be a violation of the assurances the City has agreed to under prior AIP grants. The Chapter's initiative to revise and implement the airport's Fly Friendly Program has already had a positive affect on airport neighbor's complaints about aircraft noise. Keep up the good work! Take note also of the new runway signs, and the caution signs of Nelson Road and Powell Butte Highway, another Chapter initiative to get these in place. Now, keep in mind we can use the neighbor's support to encourage the City to hire a qualified full time Airport Manager. If we put the past behind us, we can enjoy a mutually beneficial future! In addition to May 22nd or 30th, put June 6th on your calendar as the likely date the Bend City Council will consider action on updated ALP. Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron & Don Wilfong I'd like to thank Brad Stankey of the Central Oregon Soaring Club for being our guest speaker last month. Brad shared with us some fascinating information on soaring and a couple of pretty interesting videos. One video was one which the local club had made themselves. Introductory flights with the club are only $50. So if you have ever wondered what it feels like to fly "engine off", just meet with the club any time you see them flying. They would be happy to help you experience flying their way. Well, we actually made Tillamook Air Museum last month. It was a great fly-out. Michael & Ann Bond lead the way in their Cardinal. The clouds were stacked up against the west side of the Cascades, but by the time we reached Salem, it was clear and smooth. The Museum has grown since I was there last (8 years ago). They have quite a collection of aircraft, especially World War II vintage. I found the PBY to be especially interesting. The size and construction of the hangar was also very impressive. If you haven't been there yet, I recommend the trip. You can taxi right up to the hangar. There is a simple restaurant inside. After the museum Gary Miller and I decided to check out the Flying "M" Ranch (the destination for this months fly-out, coordinated by Don Wilfong). I made Gary lead the way in. He's probably a better pilot than I am and has greater courage. The strip is smooth and not as tough as it looks. The hills and one-way in concept are slightly challenging; but, it is pretty easy if you fly a normal approach descent. I think this will be a great destination for the May fly out. Hope to see you all there! MAY MEETING (May 17th): Thursday night. Our speaker this month is exceptionally interesting. Few people have experienced what Brian Walker has and even fewer will every experience what he is going to do. Brian is affectionately known around town as "The Rocket Man". He just returned from Russia where he flew in a Mig 25. This is the Russian version of the SR-71. It's a fast high altitude aircraft that can do more than I ever want to in an airplane. Brian is also designing a one man rocket which he intends to ride (do you really fly a rocket?) to an altitude of 35 miles. Brian is a fascinating person and I guarantee that this meeting will be fun, educational, and interesting. Be sure to be there! This meeting will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. Social will start at 6:00 with the traditional great Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. (Thanks to Ann for the lemon cream pie last month.) FLY-OUT SUNDAY MAY 20 th: Flying "M" Ranch (OR05) The Flying "M" Ranch is 16 nm. from the Newberg V.O.R. on the 251o radial. This is a "favorite place to fly" in a fantastic setting with a stream, lawn, trees, a beautiful large log lodge and restaurant, the food is really good (they have a huge breakfast buffet) and you can watch the planes come and go from the dining area. They have a stable so those who wish could even stay and ride if they choose. Gary Miller and Dean Cameron landed there with their 210s on the way back from Tillamook, they had no problem at all. The runway is gravel and turf in good condition, it is at 448' elevation and you land on runway 25 and depart on runway 7. If weather or winds are bad we will plan an alternate such as Independence or maybe Chiloquin (if we can't fly over the mountains). Regardless of weather let's all meet at the Flight Shop at 8:30 a.m. and if we can't fly then let's drive to a local restaurant and do some hangar flying over breakfast. The plan is to deal a poker hand to all who wish to put up their dollar and see who gets the money. Norma & I won and enjoyed having a free breakfast at the Trout House in Sunriver. Call Don Wilfong with ideas or comments MAY 26th (Saturday): Bend Airport Open House ^Ö This is the Saturday of Memorial weekend. We are holding an open house at the Bend airport. This will be a fun event for all pilots in Central Oregon. The Central Oregon Chapter of EAA will host an all you can eat pancake breakfast from 7:00 to 10:00. There will be a static display, which I hope most of you will join in on. We will have a public judging for the favorite airplane which will win a "special" award. The theme is "Aviation: Past, Present, and Future". We are looking for the oldest airplane in Central Oregon. If you have or know of one, make sure it is on display. Lancair will be representing the future. If you don't wish to be in the static display I hope each of you will move your airplane out of the hangar just to show the public how many planes there really are at the airport. The Flight Shop will be providing scenic flights for only $15. Open houses will be presented by AirLife, Lancair, Precise Flight, Electronic International, Sun Air, and more. We expect to have several fly-in visitors this weekend and let's show them a good time. Please join us in supporting our airport on this day! Volunteer help is appreciated. For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Internet // by Gary Miller & Evan Boone Our chapter now has it's own website at http://co-opa.rellim.com. The website is a bit thin but growing. Dean Cameron has contributed photos from last month's fly out to Tillamook. The website even has the current membership list online (Thanks to Don Wilfong's hard work.) Don't worry about your privacy, the membership list is protected by a user name and password. The user name is: "S07" and the password is: "123.0" Please send your comments on the website to the web master Gary Miller his email is: gem@rellim.com Check out the state OPA website at www.oregonpilot.org. It has not only our chapter newsletter but all other OPA information. Here are some additional URLs that appear on the OPA Links page at: http://www.oregonpilot.org/main/links.htm Or. Dept. of Aviation: http://www.aviation.state.or.us AOPA: http://www.aopa.org Flight Surgeon information: http://flightphysical.com Oregon ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/or.cfm Washington ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/wa.cfm McMinnville FSS: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss Pendleton National Weather Station: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss NOAA Weather National Site: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/wrhq/nwspage.html FAA Portland FSDO: http://www.nw.faa.gov/fltstds/pdxfsdo/homepage.htm NASA Safety Reporting Program: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/main.htm Oregon Legislative Information: http://www.oregonpilot.org/legis/Legis.Home.htm ---------Member Notes------------- NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. Please submit June contributions by May 31st. From co-opa@rellim.com Tue May 15 06:18:29 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Prems) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:18:29 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter References: Message-ID: <000f01c0dcfe$7b6081a0$94bb6f0c@e4i9t5> Gary, Just read the newsletter and discovered that the equations for Va and Vb did not include the square root symbol I had in my original copy. I realize that it may be impossible to produce the symbol on the computer, but had I known the newsletter was going to be emailed, I would have used the "the square root of...." in lieu of the square root the little v that may be interpreted as an airspeed symbol. This can be dangerous and needs to be rectified before someone gets hurt. I do not have the email list in my computer so please send out an errata to the gang ASAP. Not all may be at the next meeting, so word of mouth won't do it. Using all words, the example of the equation should read: New Va equals the original Va times the square root of the new weight divided by the old weight. Thanks; Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary E. Miller To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter > Oregon Pilots Association > > CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER > Bud Fincham, President > 2252 NW Fernie Court > Bend, Oregon 97701 > > MEETING NOTICE > **** POTLUCK **** > > Date: May 17, 2001, Thursday > > Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG > A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. > 6:30 PM start through the potluck line > 7:00 PM meeting > > Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport > > Speaker: Brian Walker, "The Rocket Man" Brian is designing a one man > rocket he intends to ride to an altitude of 35 miles. > > > > Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar > > Do you fly by the numbers? Your winged buckboard's handbook provides > a batch of numbers to use when holding the reins of a multitude of > Pegasuses (is the plural Pegasi?) pulling you around the sky. Noteworthy > is the fact that manufacturers sometimes exaggerate the numbers or, if > within acceptable limits of accuracy, derive them using test pilots flying > a prototype of models yet to come off the production line. For instance, > highly skilled pilots taking off of clean runways, in a perfect atmospheric > environment, using dent and paint free machines with over inflated tires, > determine take off distances. > > Does your handbook differentiate between Va (maneuvering speed) and > Vb (turbulence penetration speed). Va is the limiting air speed at which > full control deflection will produce the aircraft's design limit load > factor, exceed the limit and you'll bend the machine. However, if the 50% > safety factor is exceeded, your baggage will collapse the floor of the > compartment onto control cables while the wings and engine may decide to go > their separate ways. No problem if you're flying a Cirrus. > > Consider Va. A pullout puts an upward load on the wing and a > downward load on the horizontal tail whereas an upward gust (Vb) puts an up > load on both surfaces. Many treat Va and Vb as the same. Common to both > is the reduction in airspeed with a reduction in weight and location of the > center of gravity. I guarantee you that it's worth the bother to compute > for the change in airspeed with respect to weight. Use this equation and > if you're really interested in it's derivation, contact me: > > New Va = vNew Weight/Old Weight times the Original Va (using my Bonanza's > #s): > > New Va =v 2600# (new wt.)/2900# (old wt.) x 120 kts CAS (rounded to the > nearest whole number) > > New Va = v .897 X 120 kts CAS = .95 x 120 = 114 kts CAS, the new Va (that's > an answer, but where is the c.g.? > > To obtain minimum FAA stall speeds for certification manufacturers, > employing the same type of pilot and aircraft described above, use an > approach to the stall at a rate of minus one knot per second, perfectly > balanced flight in smooth air, and an aft c.g. Operationally, do you > consider this realistic? > > 1.3 Vso. Familiar? Sure it is. It's 1.3 times the stalling speed > or the minimum steady flight speed in the landing configuration, and it's > the airspeed recommended for your approach to a landing. This gives you a > 30% safety margin, or does it? That's fine and dandy if you're a bachelor > person. Married? Add a couple of knots. Children? Add another knot for > each one. Why? Well, I'll explain that in the next newsletter. > > Am I telling you to ignore your instruments? NO WAY! I am strongly > suggesting that you know their limitations. Use them as the large end of a > funnel that narrows toward a "seat of the pants" refinement that will be > realized with experience. > > Bend Airport Layout Plan // by Dale Evans > > A revised update of the Airport Layout Plan for the Bend Municipal > Airport will be presented for public review by the City Public Works > Department at the AirLife of Oregon hangar. Originally scheduled for May > 22nd at 6:00 PM, this meeting will likely be deferred to May 30th. > > An update of the ALP is required to document the changes that have > occurred at the airport since the 1994 Master Plan Update, and to describe > the nature of expected developments during the next 20 years. The ALP has > been revised since you last reviewed it. One of the principal improvements > shown in the revision is construction of a new runway approximately 110 > feet East of the present location, and removal of the existing runway. > This will meet FAA standards for runway separation from the West parallel > taxiway, and will also allow fuller utilization of the remaining space on > the West side of the runway. > > Nelson Road would be relocated as described in earlier proposals, but > the newly constructed runway would only be extended South to where the > Airport Development Zone meets the EFU property, approximately 200 feet. > In the long term, the remainder of the planned 5,500 foot runway will be an > extension to the North. > > Some of the airport neighbors have been vocal critics of airport > operations, and have vigorously expressed their concerns about the effects > of future hypothetical developments on their rural life style adjacent to > the airport. As a result, the ALP being presented now represents a > substantial compromise with the neighbors in an effort to address their > concerns. > > Relocation of Nelson Road, and 200 feet of additional runway and > graded over run, however, will significantly improve operational safety at > the airport. > > The next steps in securing approval of the ALP by the City Council, > and subsequent acceptance by the County Commission of the ALP and Updated > Airport Master Plan, are pure politics. In the past, we have not made a > special effort to secure a large turnout of pilots and airport users at > these meetings, but now it is critical that you come to the ALP review > meeting. Sign in, fill out a comment sheet, and express your support for > approval of the revised ALP. > > My reading of the FARs makes it clear that failure by the City to > update its Airport Master Plan in a timely manner jeopardizes its > qualification to continue to receive FAA funding under the Airport > Improvement Program, and would be a violation of the assurances the City > has agreed to under prior AIP grants. > > The Chapter's initiative to revise and implement the airport's Fly > Friendly Program has already had a positive affect on airport neighbor's > complaints about aircraft noise. Keep up the good work! Take note also of > the new runway signs, and the caution signs of Nelson Road and Powell Butte > Highway, another Chapter initiative to get these in place. > > Now, keep in mind we can use the neighbor's support to encourage the > City to hire a qualified full time Airport Manager. If we put the past > behind us, we can enjoy a mutually beneficial future! > > In addition to May 22nd or 30th, put June 6th on your calendar as the > likely date the Bend City Council will consider action on updated ALP. > > > Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron & Don Wilfong > > I'd like to thank Brad Stankey of the Central Oregon Soaring Club for > being our guest speaker last month. Brad shared with us some fascinating > information on soaring and a couple of pretty interesting videos. One > video was one which the local club had made themselves. Introductory > flights with the club are only $50. So if you have ever wondered what it > feels like to fly "engine off", just meet with the club any time you see > them flying. They would be happy to help you experience flying their way. > > Well, we actually made Tillamook Air Museum last month. It was a > great fly-out. Michael & Ann Bond lead the way in their Cardinal. The > clouds were stacked up against the west side of the Cascades, but by the > time we reached Salem, it was clear and smooth. The Museum has grown since > I was there last (8 years ago). They have quite a collection of aircraft, > especially World War II vintage. I found the PBY to be especially > interesting. The size and construction of the hangar was also very > impressive. If you haven't been there yet, I recommend the trip. You can > taxi right up to the hangar. There is a simple restaurant inside. After > the museum Gary Miller and I decided to check out the Flying "M" Ranch (the > destination for this months fly-out, coordinated by Don Wilfong). I made > Gary lead the way in. He's probably a better pilot than I am and has > greater courage. The strip is smooth and not as tough as it looks. The > hills and one-way in concept are slightly challenging; but, it is pretty > easy if you fly a normal approach descent. I think this will be a great > destination for the May fly out. Hope to see you all there! > > > MAY MEETING (May 17th): Thursday night. Our speaker this month is > exceptionally interesting. Few people have experienced what Brian Walker > has and even fewer will every experience what he is going to do. Brian is > affectionately known around town as "The Rocket Man". He just returned > from Russia where he flew in a Mig 25. This is the Russian version of the > SR-71. It's a fast high altitude aircraft that can do more than I ever > want to in an airplane. Brian is also designing a one man rocket which he > intends to ride (do you really fly a rocket?) to an altitude of 35 miles. > Brian is a fascinating person and I guarantee that this meeting will be > fun, educational, and interesting. Be sure to be there! This meeting > will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. Social will start at > 6:00 with the traditional great Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. > (Thanks to Ann for the lemon cream pie last month.) > > > FLY-OUT SUNDAY MAY 20 th: Flying "M" Ranch (OR05) The Flying "M" Ranch is > 16 nm. from the Newberg V.O.R. on the 251o radial. This is a "favorite > place to fly" in a fantastic setting with a stream, lawn, trees, a > beautiful large log lodge and restaurant, the food is really good (they > have a huge breakfast buffet) and you can watch the planes come and go from > the dining area. They have a stable so those who wish could even stay and > ride if they choose. Gary Miller and Dean Cameron landed there with their > 210s on the way back from Tillamook, they had no problem at all. The > runway is gravel and turf in good condition, it is at 448' elevation and > you land on runway 25 and depart on runway 7. If weather or winds are bad > we will plan an alternate such as Independence or maybe Chiloquin (if we > can't fly over the mountains). Regardless of weather let's all meet at the > Flight Shop at 8:30 a.m. and if we can't fly then let's drive to a local > restaurant and do some hangar flying over breakfast. The plan is to deal a > poker hand to all who wish to put up their dollar and see who gets the > money. Norma & I won and enjoyed having a free breakfast at the Trout > House in Sunriver. Call Don Wilfong with ideas or comments > > MAY 26th (Saturday): Bend Airport Open House ^Ö This is the Saturday of > Memorial weekend. We are holding an open house at the Bend airport. > This will be a fun event for all pilots in Central Oregon. The Central > Oregon Chapter of EAA will host an all you can eat pancake breakfast from > 7:00 to 10:00. There will be a static display, which I hope most of you > will join in on. We will have a public judging for the favorite airplane > which will win a "special" award. The theme is "Aviation: Past, Present, > and Future". We are looking for the oldest airplane in Central Oregon. If > you have or know of one, make sure it is on display. Lancair will be > representing the future. If you don't wish to be in the static display I > hope each of you will move your airplane out of the hangar just to show the > public how many planes there really are at the airport. The Flight Shop > will be providing scenic flights for only $15. Open houses will be > presented by AirLife, Lancair, Precise Flight, Electronic International, > Sun Air, and more. We expect to have several fly-in visitors this weekend > and let's show them a good time. Please join us in supporting our airport > on this day! Volunteer help is appreciated. > > For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron > (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com > > > Internet // by Gary Miller & Evan Boone > > Our chapter now has it's own website at http://co-opa.rellim.com. > The website is a bit thin but growing. Dean Cameron has contributed photos > from last month's fly out to Tillamook. The website even has the current > membership list online (Thanks to Don Wilfong's hard work.) Don't worry > about your privacy, the membership list is protected by a user name and > password. The user name is: "S07" and the password is: "123.0" Please > send your comments on the website to the web master Gary Miller his > email is: gem@rellim.com > > Check out the state OPA website at www.oregonpilot.org. It has not > only our chapter newsletter but all other OPA information. Here are some > additional URLs that appear on the OPA Links page at: > http://www.oregonpilot.org/main/links.htm > > Or. Dept. of Aviation: http://www.aviation.state.or.us > AOPA: http://www.aopa.org > Flight Surgeon information: http://flightphysical.com > Oregon ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/or.cfm > Washington ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/wa.cfm > McMinnville FSS: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss > Pendleton National Weather Station: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss > NOAA Weather National Site: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/wrhq/nwspage.html > FAA Portland FSDO: http://www.nw.faa.gov/fltstds/pdxfsdo/homepage.htm > NASA Safety Reporting Program: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/main.htm > Oregon Legislative Information: > http://www.oregonpilot.org/legis/Legis.Home.htm > > > > > > ---------Member Notes------------- > > > > NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming > events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? > Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the > newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure > or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a > classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. > > Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR > 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. > Please submit June contributions by May 31st. > > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Tue May 15 06:33:24 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Prems) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:33:24 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter References: Message-ID: <002001c0dd00$9062b3a0$94bb6f0c@e4i9t5> Gary: This corrects my previous message. Somehow the portion I put in triple quotes in this message didn't go out correctly in my first letter. ----Joel Gary, Just read the newsletter and discovered that the equations for Va and Vb did not include the square root symbol I had in my original copy. I realize that it may be impossible to produce the symbol on the computer, but had I known the newsletter was going to be emailed, I would have used the "the square root of...." in lieu of the square root """symbol. The little v that was used for the square root symbol may be interpreted as an airspeed symbol. This combined with using the weights without taking the square root of it***can be dangerous and needs to be rectified before someone gets hurt. I do not have the email list in my computer so please send out an errata to the gang ASAP. Not all may be at the next meeting, so word of mouth won't do it. Using all words, the example of the equation should read: New Va equals the original Va times the square root of the new weight divided by the old weight. Thanks; Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary E. Miller To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 11:52 PM Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter > Oregon Pilots Association > > CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER > Bud Fincham, President > 2252 NW Fernie Court > Bend, Oregon 97701 > > MEETING NOTICE > **** POTLUCK **** > > Date: May 17, 2001, Thursday > > Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG > A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. > 6:30 PM start through the potluck line > 7:00 PM meeting > > Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport > > Speaker: Brian Walker, "The Rocket Man" Brian is designing a one man > rocket he intends to ride to an altitude of 35 miles. > > > > Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar > > Do you fly by the numbers? Your winged buckboard's handbook provides > a batch of numbers to use when holding the reins of a multitude of > Pegasuses (is the plural Pegasi?) pulling you around the sky. Noteworthy > is the fact that manufacturers sometimes exaggerate the numbers or, if > within acceptable limits of accuracy, derive them using test pilots flying > a prototype of models yet to come off the production line. For instance, > highly skilled pilots taking off of clean runways, in a perfect atmospheric > environment, using dent and paint free machines with over inflated tires, > determine take off distances. > > Does your handbook differentiate between Va (maneuvering speed) and > Vb (turbulence penetration speed). Va is the limiting air speed at which > full control deflection will produce the aircraft's design limit load > factor, exceed the limit and you'll bend the machine. However, if the 50% > safety factor is exceeded, your baggage will collapse the floor of the > compartment onto control cables while the wings and engine may decide to go > their separate ways. No problem if you're flying a Cirrus. > > Consider Va. A pullout puts an upward load on the wing and a > downward load on the horizontal tail whereas an upward gust (Vb) puts an up > load on both surfaces. Many treat Va and Vb as the same. Common to both > is the reduction in airspeed with a reduction in weight and location of the > center of gravity. I guarantee you that it's worth the bother to compute > for the change in airspeed with respect to weight. Use this equation and > if you're really interested in it's derivation, contact me: > > New Va = vNew Weight/Old Weight times the Original Va (using my Bonanza's > #s): > > New Va =v 2600# (new wt.)/2900# (old wt.) x 120 kts CAS (rounded to the > nearest whole number) > > New Va = v .897 X 120 kts CAS = .95 x 120 = 114 kts CAS, the new Va (that's > an answer, but where is the c.g.? > > To obtain minimum FAA stall speeds for certification manufacturers, > employing the same type of pilot and aircraft described above, use an > approach to the stall at a rate of minus one knot per second, perfectly > balanced flight in smooth air, and an aft c.g. Operationally, do you > consider this realistic? > > 1.3 Vso. Familiar? Sure it is. It's 1.3 times the stalling speed > or the minimum steady flight speed in the landing configuration, and it's > the airspeed recommended for your approach to a landing. This gives you a > 30% safety margin, or does it? That's fine and dandy if you're a bachelor > person. Married? Add a couple of knots. Children? Add another knot for > each one. Why? Well, I'll explain that in the next newsletter. > > Am I telling you to ignore your instruments? NO WAY! I am strongly > suggesting that you know their limitations. Use them as the large end of a > funnel that narrows toward a "seat of the pants" refinement that will be > realized with experience. > > Bend Airport Layout Plan // by Dale Evans > > A revised update of the Airport Layout Plan for the Bend Municipal > Airport will be presented for public review by the City Public Works > Department at the AirLife of Oregon hangar. Originally scheduled for May > 22nd at 6:00 PM, this meeting will likely be deferred to May 30th. > > An update of the ALP is required to document the changes that have > occurred at the airport since the 1994 Master Plan Update, and to describe > the nature of expected developments during the next 20 years. The ALP has > been revised since you last reviewed it. One of the principal improvements > shown in the revision is construction of a new runway approximately 110 > feet East of the present location, and removal of the existing runway. > This will meet FAA standards for runway separation from the West parallel > taxiway, and will also allow fuller utilization of the remaining space on > the West side of the runway. > > Nelson Road would be relocated as described in earlier proposals, but > the newly constructed runway would only be extended South to where the > Airport Development Zone meets the EFU property, approximately 200 feet. > In the long term, the remainder of the planned 5,500 foot runway will be an > extension to the North. > > Some of the airport neighbors have been vocal critics of airport > operations, and have vigorously expressed their concerns about the effects > of future hypothetical developments on their rural life style adjacent to > the airport. As a result, the ALP being presented now represents a > substantial compromise with the neighbors in an effort to address their > concerns. > > Relocation of Nelson Road, and 200 feet of additional runway and > graded over run, however, will significantly improve operational safety at > the airport. > > The next steps in securing approval of the ALP by the City Council, > and subsequent acceptance by the County Commission of the ALP and Updated > Airport Master Plan, are pure politics. In the past, we have not made a > special effort to secure a large turnout of pilots and airport users at > these meetings, but now it is critical that you come to the ALP review > meeting. Sign in, fill out a comment sheet, and express your support for > approval of the revised ALP. > > My reading of the FARs makes it clear that failure by the City to > update its Airport Master Plan in a timely manner jeopardizes its > qualification to continue to receive FAA funding under the Airport > Improvement Program, and would be a violation of the assurances the City > has agreed to under prior AIP grants. > > The Chapter's initiative to revise and implement the airport's Fly > Friendly Program has already had a positive affect on airport neighbor's > complaints about aircraft noise. Keep up the good work! Take note also of > the new runway signs, and the caution signs of Nelson Road and Powell Butte > Highway, another Chapter initiative to get these in place. > > Now, keep in mind we can use the neighbor's support to encourage the > City to hire a qualified full time Airport Manager. If we put the past > behind us, we can enjoy a mutually beneficial future! > > In addition to May 22nd or 30th, put June 6th on your calendar as the > likely date the Bend City Council will consider action on updated ALP. > > > Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron & Don Wilfong > > I'd like to thank Brad Stankey of the Central Oregon Soaring Club for > being our guest speaker last month. Brad shared with us some fascinating > information on soaring and a couple of pretty interesting videos. One > video was one which the local club had made themselves. Introductory > flights with the club are only $50. So if you have ever wondered what it > feels like to fly "engine off", just meet with the club any time you see > them flying. They would be happy to help you experience flying their way. > > Well, we actually made Tillamook Air Museum last month. It was a > great fly-out. Michael & Ann Bond lead the way in their Cardinal. The > clouds were stacked up against the west side of the Cascades, but by the > time we reached Salem, it was clear and smooth. The Museum has grown since > I was there last (8 years ago). They have quite a collection of aircraft, > especially World War II vintage. I found the PBY to be especially > interesting. The size and construction of the hangar was also very > impressive. If you haven't been there yet, I recommend the trip. You can > taxi right up to the hangar. There is a simple restaurant inside. After > the museum Gary Miller and I decided to check out the Flying "M" Ranch (the > destination for this months fly-out, coordinated by Don Wilfong). I made > Gary lead the way in. He's probably a better pilot than I am and has > greater courage. The strip is smooth and not as tough as it looks. The > hills and one-way in concept are slightly challenging; but, it is pretty > easy if you fly a normal approach descent. I think this will be a great > destination for the May fly out. Hope to see you all there! > > > MAY MEETING (May 17th): Thursday night. Our speaker this month is > exceptionally interesting. Few people have experienced what Brian Walker > has and even fewer will every experience what he is going to do. Brian is > affectionately known around town as "The Rocket Man". He just returned > from Russia where he flew in a Mig 25. This is the Russian version of the > SR-71. It's a fast high altitude aircraft that can do more than I ever > want to in an airplane. Brian is also designing a one man rocket which he > intends to ride (do you really fly a rocket?) to an altitude of 35 miles. > Brian is a fascinating person and I guarantee that this meeting will be > fun, educational, and interesting. Be sure to be there! This meeting > will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. Social will start at > 6:00 with the traditional great Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. > (Thanks to Ann for the lemon cream pie last month.) > > > FLY-OUT SUNDAY MAY 20 th: Flying "M" Ranch (OR05) The Flying "M" Ranch is > 16 nm. from the Newberg V.O.R. on the 251o radial. This is a "favorite > place to fly" in a fantastic setting with a stream, lawn, trees, a > beautiful large log lodge and restaurant, the food is really good (they > have a huge breakfast buffet) and you can watch the planes come and go from > the dining area. They have a stable so those who wish could even stay and > ride if they choose. Gary Miller and Dean Cameron landed there with their > 210s on the way back from Tillamook, they had no problem at all. The > runway is gravel and turf in good condition, it is at 448' elevation and > you land on runway 25 and depart on runway 7. If weather or winds are bad > we will plan an alternate such as Independence or maybe Chiloquin (if we > can't fly over the mountains). Regardless of weather let's all meet at the > Flight Shop at 8:30 a.m. and if we can't fly then let's drive to a local > restaurant and do some hangar flying over breakfast. The plan is to deal a > poker hand to all who wish to put up their dollar and see who gets the > money. Norma & I won and enjoyed having a free breakfast at the Trout > House in Sunriver. Call Don Wilfong with ideas or comments > > MAY 26th (Saturday): Bend Airport Open House ^Ö This is the Saturday of > Memorial weekend. We are holding an open house at the Bend airport. > This will be a fun event for all pilots in Central Oregon. The Central > Oregon Chapter of EAA will host an all you can eat pancake breakfast from > 7:00 to 10:00. There will be a static display, which I hope most of you > will join in on. We will have a public judging for the favorite airplane > which will win a "special" award. The theme is "Aviation: Past, Present, > and Future". We are looking for the oldest airplane in Central Oregon. If > you have or know of one, make sure it is on display. Lancair will be > representing the future. If you don't wish to be in the static display I > hope each of you will move your airplane out of the hangar just to show the > public how many planes there really are at the airport. The Flight Shop > will be providing scenic flights for only $15. Open houses will be > presented by AirLife, Lancair, Precise Flight, Electronic International, > Sun Air, and more. We expect to have several fly-in visitors this weekend > and let's show them a good time. Please join us in supporting our airport > on this day! Volunteer help is appreciated. > > For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron > (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com > > > Internet // by Gary Miller & Evan Boone > > Our chapter now has it's own website at http://co-opa.rellim.com. > The website is a bit thin but growing. Dean Cameron has contributed photos > from last month's fly out to Tillamook. The website even has the current > membership list online (Thanks to Don Wilfong's hard work.) Don't worry > about your privacy, the membership list is protected by a user name and > password. The user name is: "S07" and the password is: "123.0" Please > send your comments on the website to the web master Gary Miller his > email is: gem@rellim.com > > Check out the state OPA website at www.oregonpilot.org. It has not > only our chapter newsletter but all other OPA information. Here are some > additional URLs that appear on the OPA Links page at: > http://www.oregonpilot.org/main/links.htm > > Or. Dept. of Aviation: http://www.aviation.state.or.us > AOPA: http://www.aopa.org > Flight Surgeon information: http://flightphysical.com > Oregon ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/or.cfm > Washington ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/wa.cfm > McMinnville FSS: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss > Pendleton National Weather Station: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss > NOAA Weather National Site: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/wrhq/nwspage.html > FAA Portland FSDO: http://www.nw.faa.gov/fltstds/pdxfsdo/homepage.htm > NASA Safety Reporting Program: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/main.htm > Oregon Legislative Information: > http://www.oregonpilot.org/legis/Legis.Home.htm > > > > > > ---------Member Notes------------- > > > > NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming > events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? > Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the > newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure > or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a > classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. > > Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR > 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. > Please submit June contributions by May 31st. > > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Tue May 15 07:26:19 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter In-Reply-To: <000f01c0dcfe$7b6081a0$94bb6f0c@e4i9t5> Message-ID: From co-opa@rellim.com Tue May 15 07:31:40 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:31:40 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]May Newsletter Message-ID: <200105150631.f4F6Ve922199@catbert.rellim.com> Yo Joel! By replying to the email list you just sent out your correction to everyone on the list. So your erratum is already distributed. Thanks for double checking! RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 On Mon, 14 May 2001, Prems wrote: > Just read the newsletter and discovered that the equations for Va and Vb did > not include the square root symbol I had in my original copy. I realize > that it may be impossible to produce the symbol on the computer, but had I > known the newsletter was going to be emailed, I would have used the "the > square root of...." in lieu of the square root the little v that may be > interpreted as an airspeed symbol. This can be dangerous and needs to be > rectified before someone gets hurt. I do not have the email list in my > computer so please send out an errata to the gang ASAP. Not all may be at > the next meeting, so word of mouth won't do it. > Using all words, the example of the equation should read: > New Va equals the original Va times the square root of the new weight > divided by the old weight. Thanks; Joel From co-opa@rellim.com Mon May 21 23:37:44 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Christopher John Shaker) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Ride back from Boise? References: Message-ID: <037b01c0e246$b6ec4720$6601a8c0@cisco.com> Anyone interested in flying to Boise and Bend this afternoon/this evening? I need to drop my Baron off for some work at Western Aircraft, and wondered if anyone would like an excuse to fly. I'd be more than happy to be safety pilot, buy gas, dinner, etc. Thanks, Chris Shaker cjshaker@shaker-net.com shaker@cisco.com (541) 598-8770 [House] (541) 280-5470 [Cell] From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Jun 9 01:32:54 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Mike Bond) Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 08:32:54 +0800 Subject: [Co-opa][Fwd: June Central Oregon OPA newsletter] Message-ID: <3B209BC6.CCB44107@myexcel.com> Cheressehoward@cs.com wrote: > Ann, Dale & Dean, I don't seem to have the address of the person who is > converting the newsletter for the internet. Would you please forward this > attachment to him. Thanks, Cheresse. The newsletter is written in > Microsoft Word. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Name: OPANEW~5.DOC > OPANEW~5.DOC Type: Download File (application/msword) > Encoding: base64 From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Jun 9 14:43:56 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:43:56 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]News Letter Message-ID: <11c.129ce5.2853821c@aol.com> There was no newsletter attached to your e mail, or I am missing something on how to down load. Please advise. Michael Guth From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Jun 11 23:48:49 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:48:49 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]June Newsletter Message-ID: <200106112248.f5BMmnS16518@catbert.rellim.com> CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER OREGON PILOTS ASSOCIATION Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: June 21, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Carrie Novick, Redmond Airport Manager Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar Last month I implied that the accuracy of aircraft instruments leaves something to be desired. Most of them are - well, just what they are dubbed - indicators. Disregarding failures, are they safe to use? Absolutely! But, only if you understand how they work and the variables that impact them. Unless you enjoy littering the runway with engine components, have your tachometer checked. You're in for a surprise when you do. Consider an electronic digital tach. If you take pleasure in challenging the grim reaper, trust your fuel gauges, but if longevity appeals to you, think digital fuel management system. If nurturing the team of horses you have up front is important to you, an electronic engine analyzer is for you. Whether everything is working or not, one of the most important indicators you have in the cockpit is the one that tells you how swift your machine is compared to a free balloon. Let's take a look at that last one. Just a reminder before we get into the airspeed indicator. Target airspeeds in your pilot's operating handbook are for maximum weight. Obviously, by using your handbook Vref for landing when you're lightly loaded, you'll convert your tricycle into a wheelbarrow. I touched on the impact of weight last month. The effects of c.g. upon target airspeeds are for another time. In addition to the ASI's instrument errors, pitot/static source locations and installations, angle of attack, configuration variations; e.g., flaps, vortex generators, pants, externally hung whatevers, all bias what the ASI is telling you. When you put all of the above together, you have transitioned from indicated airspeed (IAS) to what is known as "calibrated airspeed (CAS)". The airspeed indicator (ASI) measures the difference between the total pressure measured at the pitot tube and the static pressure taken from the static source and thereby hangs a tale (Bill Shakespeare). The pitot/static instrument design is predicated upon incompressible flow and we all know that air is compressible. The ASI as a system is physically designed for standard atmospheric sea-level conditions only and is useable up to Mach 0.3 (around 335 knots). The fat lady hasn't started to sing yet. There is an airspeed known as 'equivalent airspeed (EAS)". It is obtained by including the compressibility factor to CAS to arrive at dynamic pressure (q). It is to this value that aeronautical engineers design flying machines. Today, a great many non-military aircraft operate in the flight regime of high speed and high altitude (over 200 kts and FL-200) where this is worthy of consideration. Finally, we arrive at the familiar true airspeed (TAS) by including density altitude in our calculations. We slow and low-down (pun intended) characters skip EAS to arrive at TAS. In conclusion, we cannot compensate for all of the above soooo, we do what we can by building our own airspeed calibration (IAS vs CAS) charts for your principal configurations, weights, and c.g. locations. I will suggest one more thing. Before making a non-emergency short field landing, check your IAS at stall (you do practice stalls, don't you) for your "as is" aircraft. Here's a related side note. Did you ever wonder why you're taught to reduce your rate of climb/descent to 500 ft/minute or less before reaching your assigned altitude? It's so that you won't earn the wrath of environmentalists by cluttering some pristine mountain with scrap metal. When directed to dunk to a lower altitude, your air traffic controller wants you there in a hurry, but he hopes that you know that lag/hysteresis is inherent in the altimeter side of the subject instrument system. Bend Airport Layout Plan // by Dale Evans About 40 people, including two City Council members, showed up at the AirLife of Oregon hangar on the evening of May 30 for another review of the revised update of the Airport Layout Plan presented by the City and its consultant. This was a much subdued crowd compared to previous gatherings, and probably reflects a degree of satisfaction with changes at the airport not present at earlier meetings. As before, questions focused on the need for runway length extension, weight bearing capacity of the new runway, source of funding for the improvements, changes in land zoning, and why Redmond Airport couldn't handle all the Bend traffic. David Miller, the City's consultant, gave responses that seemed to satisfy the inquires. If all goes well within the City, adoption of the updated ALP should appear on the Council's agenda at its June 20 meeting. It would help the cause if OPA members were present at that meeting to show their support. Bend Airport Open House - A Success // by Dale Evans Thanks to Dean Cameron and his energetic organizing committee, the May 26th Bend Airport Open House met all our expectations! The AOPA guidelines for sponsoring this kind of event strongly recommended that planning begin at least a year in advance. We did it in nine weeks, and learned quite a bit about hurried planning! This was another important step towards erasing the poor public image of the airport that has resulted from the opposition to improvements proposed at the airport. All of the reports are not in, but here are some of the highlights. The EAA Central Oregon Chapter 617 from Prineville served their usual fine breakfast, and was doubtless a factor in drawing a good number of fly-ins from the Willamette Valley. Ken Sandine pulled lunch out of the fire (so to speak) when our initial vendor cancelled al the last minute. Several local visitors commented they were surprised to find a municipal airport on Powell Butte Highway, perhaps due in part to the old practice of referring to Roberts Field as the Bend-Redmond Airport. And many were surprised at the extent of new construction on the airport grounds. About 100 airplanes were on the ramp and north tie down area, providing a good indicator of the level of activity at the airport. The Lancair factory tours arranged by Mike Schrader were popular, and enjoyed by about 550 visitors. AirLife Director Vern Bartley made their large hangar available for several displays, and the Lancair "lass cockpit" mockup received a lot of attention, and surprised many that this level of advanced technology was being incorporated in general aviation aircraft. The AirLife PC-12s on display, and their helicopter, fit in that category also, and attracted much favorable comment. About 120 people took advantage of the Flight Shop aerial tours, and the High Desert Souring Club also introduced a number of visitors to that grand sport. The level of aircraft activity was just about right for our purpose of showing the community what general aviation is about. The raffle, spear-headed by Don Wilfong and Nancy Lecklider, she representing the Ninety Nines in this venture, raised funds to help bring the B-17 and HE-111 to Bend June 27-28. A modest surplus was accumulated, due to the carnival barking of Gary Miller, who also produced the posters that covered the town. Deschutes County Sheriff Reserve Deputies did an excellent job managing traffic and directing parking, with the able assistance of several Civil Air Patrol Cadets from the High Desert Composite Squadron. EAA also helped manage the airplane traffic on the ramp and north tie downs. Many others, including City Staff, pitched in to make the Open House a success. And perhaps with heightened public awareness of this valuable community asset, we can have an "Airport Appreciation Day" next time. Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron For those of you who missed last months meeting, you missed on of the better ones. Brian Walker, who is commonly known as the "Rocket Guy", was our guest speaker. Brian has had some interesting experiences lately and is planning several more. He recently returned from Russia where he has been flying in some of their most sophisticated aircraft. Brian is in training for his own planned space mission. By this time next summer he hopes to fly in his own rocket into space. After listening to him for an hour you actually begin to believe that it is possible. He is thinking of the Alvord Desert as a possible launch site, which would be great to go see. We'll plan a fly-out to join him if he does. Thanks to Brian for sharing his experiences, passion, and goals with us! JUNE MEETING - JUNE 21st: Thursday night. Our speaker this month will be Carrie Novick, manager of the Redmond Airport. Carrie has big development plans for Redmond for the next three years. Carrie knows more about the FAA, financing an airport, and what is likely to happen in Central Oregon with regard to radar, airline connections, etc. than anyone. She is a strong advocate for aviation, so come out and learn something new at this meeting! This meeting will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. Social will start at 6:00 with the traditional great Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. This month we will vote on the most exotic main dish and the winner will win a prize. There is always something new and exciting at our meetings. FLY-OUT: SATURDAY, JUNE 23rd. Spruce Goose Museum in McMinnville. This month we will fly to McMinnville to visit the new museum which just opened. They have the Spruce Goose and 24 other historic aircraft on display. Should be quite a show. We will leave the Flight Service building in Bend at 9:00. We'll tour the museum, catch some lunch there and probably be home by 2:00. If weather is a problem, I have a secret alternate destination on this side of the mountains. Don't sit home or fly alone; be part of the "in crowd" and go flying! For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Internet - (A repeat of last month's listing in case you missed it or tossed the newsletter by mistake.) Check out the state OPA website at http://www.oregonpilot.org. It has not only our chapter newsletter but all other OPA information. Here are some additional URLs that appear on the OPA Links page: http://www.oregonpilot.org/main/links.htm Or. Dept. of Aviation: http://www.aviation.state.or.us AOPA: http://www.aopa.org Flight Surgeon information: http://flightphysical.com Oregon ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/or.cfm Washington ASOS: http://www.faa.gov/asos/map/wa.cfm McMinnville FSS: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss Pendleton National Weather Station: http://www.faa.gov/ats/mmvafss NOAA Weather National Site: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/wrhq/nwspage.html FAA Portland FSDO: http://www.nw.faa.gov/fltstds/pdxfsdo/homepage.htm NASA Safety Reporting Program: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/main.htm Oregon Legislative Information: http://www.oregonpilot.org/legis/Legis.Home.htm Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. Please submit July contributions by June 30th From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Jun 12 00:26:30 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:26:30 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]June 2001 Newsletter Online Message-ID: <200106112326.f5BNQUR17205@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! You can also find the June CO-OPA Newletter online at: http://co-opa.rellim.com/newsletters.html RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Jun 14 23:49:34 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:49:34 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]June Newsletter Message-ID: <80.bd6243d.285a997e@aol.com> Excellent job on the Newsletter!!!!!! From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Jun 26 22:41:19 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:41:19 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <200106262141.f5QLfJU10305@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Just in case you missed it, the CAF B-17G is now at Bend Airport until Thursday morning. Ground tours are $4 and 20 minutes in the air is $350. There is also a Stearman giving rides for $85. Sadly the Heinkel HE-111 did not make it. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Ave, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Jun 27 00:13:09 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:13:09 EDT Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <79.16b2af68.286a7105@aol.com> Thank you for the message on the CAF B-17G. My husband flew one in the service and much enjoyed seeing one up close again. From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Jul 2 15:44:06 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:44:06 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show Message-ID: <000801c10305$723e7460$0500a8c0@empnet> Anyone interested in going to Arlington, WA for the EAA airshow this = year? It is July 11 through the 15th. I am putting together a group = from Central Oregon. The plan is to leave Thursday afternoon and fly = to Anacortes (rooms in Arlington are booked). We would either fly into = Arlington or rent a car on Friday. It's about a 20 minute flight or a = 40 minute drive. This is the peak tourist season for this part of the = country and rooms are scarce. I have a friend with a few rooms left at = the Cap Sante Inn across from the marina in Anancortes. This is a nice = location. Rooms are $69 for two. Reservations need to be in within = the next couple days. Call if you have any interest. =20 Dean Cameron 389-4433 (office) 389-8285 (home) From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Jul 2 17:48:29 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 12:48:29 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Fwd: Wenatchee Message-ID: Unfortunately, the Wenatchee Mountain Flying Seminar is the same weekend as the Oregon State Air Fair in Albany (not to be confused with the other Albany art and air fair). But it does free up the August 10-12 weekend to go to Newport for the OPA Summer Gathering! Sorry, no pig roast. That would be a nice event for the Horse Ranch, if camping facilities were improved. -- Dale > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-xc05.mx.aol.com (rly-xc05.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.138]) by air-xc02.mail.aol.com (v78_r3.8) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:52:10 -0400 > Received: from sippie.star2.net (sippie.star2.net [65.89.75.10]) by rly-xc05.mx.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXC51-0629105136; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:51:36 -0400 > Received: from eskimo.com (1Cust180.tnt1.auburn.wa.da.uu.net [63.39.49.180]) by sippie.star2.net > (Vircom SMTPRS 4.7.192) with ESMTP id ; > Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:48:47 -0400 > Message-ID: <3B3C33C2.6BE79C14@eskimo.com> > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:52:39 +0000 > From: Tom Jensen > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Gindevans@aol.com > CC: jackkrause@compuserve.com, 2karlspielman@home.com > Subject: Re: Wenatchee > References: > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="------------71EAB4946A412E3E77359BDC" > > > --------------71EAB4946A412E3E77359BDC > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit > > Dale, > > * September 15/16 (with a ground school evening of 14th so flying can > start early Saturday.) > * Free to the public. (I think it also saves lives) > * Requires ground school if you're going to fly. > * Flying takes about 2 hours. (no landings) > * May take all day to get both scheduled, but there are survival > school, mechanic training, something for spouses, etc. > * Cheap food, don't know of pig roast anywhere, and I'm probably not > going to do one this year at 51WA. > * Get your hotel reservations now. Many staying at the Cedars Inn > 800-358-2074 > * watch http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Aviation/ and www.wpaflys.org for > announcements. > * Watch FAA mailing for announcements. > > Tom > PS: Dale, I haven't had you on emails before. Have you seen the BCAF > postings on Clearwater Research server, to catch up? > PS: Jack, I'll flip you for who gets to fly MacDonald at the WMFC. > Nancy thinks you're not controversial. > > Gindevans@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Guys - Can you help me with information on the Wenatchee Mountain > > Flying > > Seminar? Several that would likely be going to the McCall Family fly > > in this > > year have a conflict, and we are looking for an alternate. And, info > > on > > out-of-staters joining WPA would be appreciated. Finally, can you > > confirm > > (or deny) rumors of a pig roast? I'm up to about 60/80 on all > > cylinders now, > > and hope to see you at the next BCAF gathering. -- Dale > > -- > Fly safe, folks! > Tom & Nancy Jensen c180tom@eskimo.com > Voice/fax: 360-825-6777 SAR pager: 206-626-1612 > WASAR web page: http://www.eskimo.com/~c180tom/ > Robersberg link: http://www.eskimo.com/~c180tom/open.html > > > --------------71EAB4946A412E3E77359BDC > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit > > > > Dale, >
    >
  • > September 15/16 (with a ground school evening of 14th so flying can start > early Saturday.)
    • > >
  • > Free to the public. (I think it also saves lives)
    • > >
  • > Requires ground school if you're going to fly.
    • > >
  • > Flying takes about 2 hours. (no landings)
    • > >
  • > May take all day to get both scheduled, but there are survival school, > mechanic training, something for spouses, etc.
    • > >
  • > Cheap food, don't know of pig roast anywhere, and I'm probably not going > to do one this year at 51WA.
    • > >
  • > Get your hotel reservations now.  Many staying at the Cedars Inn 800-358-2074
    • > >
  • > watch http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Aviation/ and www.wpaflys.org for announcements.
    • > >
  • > Watch FAA mailing for announcements.
    • >
> Tom >
PS: Dale, I haven't had you on emails before.  Have you seen the > BCAF postings on Clearwater Research server, to catch up? >
PS: Jack, I'll flip you for who gets to fly MacDonald at the WMFC.  > Nancy thinks you're not controversial. >

Gindevans@aol.com wrote: >

Hi Guys - > Can you help me with information on the Wenatchee Mountain Flying >
Seminar?  Several that > would likely be going to the McCall Family fly in this >
year have a conflict, and we > are looking for an alternate.  And, info on >
out-of-staters joining WPA would > be appreciated.  Finally, can you confirm >
(or deny) rumors of a pig roast?  > I'm up to about 60/80 on all cylinders now, >
and hope to see you at the next > BCAF gathering. -- Dale
> >

-- >
Fly safe, folks! >
Tom & Nancy Jensen           > c180tom@eskimo.com >
Voice/fax: 360-825-6777 SAR pager: 206-626-1612 >
WASAR web page: http://www.eskimo.com/~c180tom/ >
Robersberg link: http://www.eskimo.com/~c180tom/open.html >
  > > --------------71EAB4946A412E3E77359BDC-- > From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Jul 3 03:25:46 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:25:46 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show Message-ID: Won't be able to make it. Maybe next trip. Have Fun!!! Clay From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Jul 3 20:37:19 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Richard/Debbie Benson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:37:19 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show References: <000801c10305$723e7460$0500a8c0@empnet> Message-ID: <004e01c103fb$75c1e300$df181ad8@default> Hi Dean, Thanks for the invitation ----- I'm not available at that time ----- however, I wanted to know if you received the FAA flyer for the McCall fly-in ???? If not I can fax or mail you mine (for our CO pilots)... Your Friend, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Cameron To: Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show > Anyone interested in going to Arlington, WA for the EAA airshow this = > year? It is July 11 through the 15th. I am putting together a group = > from Central Oregon. The plan is to leave Thursday afternoon and fly = > to Anacortes (rooms in Arlington are booked). We would either fly into = > Arlington or rent a car on Friday. It's about a 20 minute flight or a = > 40 minute drive. This is the peak tourist season for this part of the = > country and rooms are scarce. I have a friend with a few rooms left at = > the Cap Sante Inn across from the marina in Anancortes. This is a nice = > location. Rooms are $69 for two. Reservations need to be in within = > the next couple days. Call if you have any interest. =20 > > Dean Cameron > 389-4433 (office) > 389-8285 (home) > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Jul 4 03:45:13 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:45:13 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show Message-ID: Thanks for the invite. I will be flying my Lancair IV-P (N9GG) up on Friday to place in the show. Come by and vote for my plane. Thanks, Michael Guth Bend, OR From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Jul 4 05:33:12 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 21:33:12 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Arlington Air show References: Message-ID: <3B429C88.2999CFF7@postoffice.pacbell.net> hi Mike........ I heard you had a problem with the baggage door on aflight to the bay area.. Everything must be okay since you're going to Arlington.. Regards, Ed Rosiak ES with the nose strut problem Guthmike@aol.com wrote: > Thanks for the invite. I will be flying my Lancair IV-P (N9GG) up on Friday > to place in the show. Come by and vote for my plane. > Thanks, > Michael Guth > Bend, OR > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Jul 13 09:06:42 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 01:06:42 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]July Newsletter Message-ID: <200107130806.f6D86gU14995@catbert.rellim.com> OREGON PILOTS ASSOCIATION CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: July 19, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Dale Evans, will review the Bend Airport Layout Plan, the State Board of Aviation meeting, and the AOPA Airport Support Network. Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar We called it Human Factors. Our British friends call it Ergonomics and that term has found its way across the Atlantic and now prevails in the U.S. In 1968, the USAF's Avionics Lab contracted Boeing to design a fighter/attack cockpit that utilized advanced technological concepts. I was drafted as principal engineer for the project. Out of this effort, digital avionics, the glass cockpit, heads up display (HUD), energy management, the side arm control stick, the HOTAS (Hands On Throttle And Stick), flight control gains and harmonization tailored to flight phases, a failure monitor and control system that provided for the graceful degradation of any aircraft system, and maintainability concepts emerged. I have the reports of these developments should anyone be interested in reading them. No, I'm not presenting my bio. This was my first exposure to a technical discipline for which I hold the highest regard - Experimental Psychology. I can wax eloquent on what the elements of cockpit design are and the role that Experimental Psychologists play. Just one example is the development of the "T" arrangement of the critical instruments for IFR flight. You might ask, "What has this to do with the price of eggs or G.A. pilots?" Well, since you asked, I'll tell you. The USAF specifies that cockpits be designed for the 90th percentile male to the 50th percentile female. For the Navy, the upper end is the 95th percentile male. These figures are updated to reflect our ever changing sizes. I don't know what criteria G.A. cockpit designers use, but check out the J-3 Cub, the Cessna 150, the Bonanza, or the laid back Lancair to get a sense of what I mean. Now look at the instrument panel and switch arrangement of each of the above and go "Wow!" I know that Beech took a lot of hits for reversing the flap and landing gear controls re other G.A. aircraft. As an aside, take a peek at my logbook and note how I jumped back and forth from the Corsair to the Hellcat. The flap and landing gear handles are the reverse of each other in those aircraft. Yup! We do need standards. Those of you who rent aircraft must take extra care, even aircraft by the same manufacturer change with time. If you're partial to a specific model, try to rent the same aircraft every time. When you shop to buy, give equal weight to the cockpit evaluation. Here's a classic example; make yourself as comfortable as you can in the cockpit because you're apt to occupy that position for hours at a time. Simple enough, eh? (No I'm not Canadian.) Adjust the rudder pedals to your liking. If, however, with your heels on the rudder bars and the balls of your feet on the brakes, you have a need for full rudder, are you carrying brake on the receding rudder pedal just to enjoy an adrenalin rush? If your retreating foot actuates the brake, it's because your foot's articulation woth respect to your leg is limited. The rudder pedals should be readjusted. A nuisance though it may be, I know some pilots who use one whole body position for take off, landing and ground operations and another for flight. Do you have to grope in a dark corner of the cockpit or be a contortionist to access time critical control devices such as circuit breakers or a fuel selector? Are controls requiring frequent use in easy reach? Are the locations of controls requiring fine-tuning or long dwell time conveniently located? Can you see all of the above without wriggling about the cockpit or in changing light environs? Can you operate efficiently in bright sun conditions that move dark holes around in the cockpit as you turn the aircraft or during night or cloudy environments? Do certain colors wash out during differing light situations? These are but a few of the many areas to be considered in designing an optimum cockpit. Oh yeah, do you wear polarized sunglasses that produce a dynamic light show as you roll the plane? I can carry on along this theme for pages. Oh, don't fret. I'll quit now; but, if you're interested in this, and you should be, talk to me. I'll be happy to expound upon the subject and/or lend you documents that treat the various static and dynamic aspects of human factors/ergonomics as they pertain to cockpit design and flight. Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron Carrie Novak, manager of the Redmond airport was our guest speaker for last month's meeting. Carrie is one of the most ambitious and hard working persons I know. Carrie shared with us some of the many plans for Redmond over the next several years. Major changes are in store. They are lowering the hill in the northeast corner of the airport for better line of site visibility, greatly expanding the terminal, adding new parking, and much more. Carrie is also working very hard at getting radar in Central Oregon. With her help I think it will likely happen in the near future. This will be a safety bonus for pilots in bad weather. Thanks to Carrie for joining in our meeting and sharing with us! If you missed last month's fly-out, you missed a good one. We had a great time in McMinnville at the Evergreen Museum. The Spruce Goose and several other war birds were on display. We had 8 planes and 18-20 people on this trip. I tried to count everyone when we were in the van; but we were packed in like sardines, everyone kept wiggling around, and I am too short to see over the headrest. The weather cooperated and the flight couldn't have been much nicer. The planes were great, the company was superb, and everyone had some fun. The museum is worth the time if you are ever in the area. Call the museum from the FBO to see if they have a van to pick you up. We'll probably be back there again next year. JULY 14 - REMOND AIRPORT: Wings of the Cascades / Spirit Flight / Cessna Pilot Center is having a pancake breakfast 8:30 to 10:30, an Open House and Cessna Demos during the day, and wrapping it up with a Hangar Party from 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM. Music will be provided by Don Mobely and his Central Oregon Pilots Bank. Call Karen at 548-4801. JULY 19th - MONTHLY MEETING: This month we will have two speakers sharing the responsibility. We are in the peak of our summer flying adventures and many pilots I know are planning to hit a few of the smaller airports and back country strips. So, with that in mind, we are going to have Dale Evans (probably the hardest working retired person I know) and Richard Benson (one of the nicest guys I know) share a little about back country flying and camping. Both have excellent experience with small airstrips and backcountry flying. Special emphasis will be on Johnson Creek in Idaho and some of the other interesting spots in Oregon and Idaho. We will be including an overnight stay at Johnson Creek during this month's fly-out to Joseph, so the information with be especially timely. This meeting will be at the Flight Services building in Bend. The social will start at 6:00, grazing off the potluck table will start around 6:30 and the meeting will be at 7:00. JULY 21st - FLY-OUT: Joseph, Oregon & Johnson Creek, Idaho Joseph was one of the favorite destinations last year and I think it will be just as good this year. This is a small (about the size of Sisters) community in northeastern Oregon near the Wallowa mountains. The flight over is incredibly scenic. Joseph has several bronze foundries, art galleries, and a great museum. Last year the cost for the museum tour, lunch and foundry tour was only $10. Wendy and I couldn't get away with out buying some art and I know Oliver & Bonnie Steele are excited about picking up their bronze casting of a cougar and her cubs. After Joseph those who would like to do some extra adventuring will be going to Johnson Creek in northern Idaho. We'll fly over the Snake River canyon on the way. This canyon is one of the most scenic areas in eastern Oregon. I have information from several reliable sources that Johnson Creek is one of the nicest "back country" strips around. Smooth grass runway, a clear river next to the campground, and even hot water showers are some of the amenities. Breakfast at Sulfur Creek on Sunday morning. For those who are not into the "roughing it" mode, the busy metropolis of Yellow Pine (Pop. 60) is only 4 miles away. Yellow Pine has an older historic hotel with rooms available for only $30-$40 per night. There is also a restaurant/bar for your dining pleasure. Courtesy cars are available at Johnson Creek or Darlene at the Hotel said she would come and pick us up. Reservations for rooms are probably not necessary but would insure that you don't get left out in the cold. The Hotel phone number is (208) 633 -3377. The Yellow Pine Tavern also has a few cabins for rent (208) 633-2280. In order to beat the summer bumps we will be leaving Bend at 8:00 am. Flight time is probably and hour and a half for most of us. This really is one event you should try to not miss. See you there! For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 Fax 541-549-1179 e-mail cheressehoward@cs.com Please submit July contributions by July 31st. From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Aug 10 04:20:02 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 20:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]August Newsletter Message-ID: <200108100320.f7A3K2r09620@catbert.rellim.com> CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: August 16, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Flying to Alaska - Mike Brownlee, Arnie Vetterick, and Dean Cooper will share stories of their recent trip to Alaska. Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar Several of you heard me say that a course in aerobatics is the best safety training for any pilot. It's also a great confidence builder. It has established a present philosophy that I live by. You have also heard me say, "When I think that I know all there is to know about flying, I'll quit because I have then become dangerous." Bear with me as I confess to episodes that were instrumental in my adoption of the aforementioned philosophy. LOOPY LOOPS Snappy Loops With the demise of battleship and cruiser seaplane squadrons in 1949, I was ordered to Fleet Air Squadron (FASRON) 7 based at the Naval Air Station San Diego. One of the joys of that assignment was the opportunity to fly a variety of naval aircraft. On the flight line was a trainer, the SNJ (Air Force designation, T-6). The virtues and challenges of this machine were extolled by many junior aviators. After flying many combat aircraft, I had to find out for myself whether all this folderol over a mere trainer was justified. At my request, the Operations Officer scheduled me for a flight, handed me the "J-Bird's" flight manual, and assigned an Ensign with shiny gold wings to check out the old (everything is relative) veteran. It was severe clear at seven thousand feet over the Pacific just west of La Jolla when I announced to my check pilot that I felt ready to do some aerobatics. I received a jolly response, "Ready Sir." After a few wing overs and some slow rolls, I laid the J-Bird on her back and pulled into a dive to gain speed for a loop. Determined to execute a perfect O and not an elliptical e as in script, I arrived at the top of the loop with the sense that the pressure on my posterior was a bit light. Having been in this situation many times before when looping the SC-1 Seahawk, a seaplane, I eased the stick back and was instantly rewarded with the beginnings of an inside snap roll. I immediately recovered from that and found myself right side up flying straight and level. The answer to this blunder was simple. The Seahawk had full span leading edge slats that were aerodynamically actuated and when the wing approached a stall, the slats would extend and reshape the wing into a high lift configuration that precluded the stall. Conditioned response caused my problem. "Well, I won't let that happen again." I mused. Repeating the maneuver, I found myself at the top of the loop in the same situation as before. This time, instead of easing back stick, I reversed the order. A little bit of forward pressure and wham! - - another snap! - - only this time it was an outside snap. Recovering as before, my frustration was interrupted by an exclamation from my admirer in the back seat. "Wow! Sir, those were the best darned Immelmans ever." I pointed the nose of the trainer toward home. A Short Circuit Boredom laid a heavy hand upon us as we approached the Mississippi from the west. We were ferrying tired SNJs to an overhaul base. Skipper (his real name) had the lead. To break the monotony, I sidled up to him for some tight formation flying. He looked at me with a St.Bernard expression. I could almost hear him whine. His eyebrows moved to an inverted V as his hands signaled what amounted to a plea for a formation loop. He watched me speak into my mike and knew that I was advising my back seater of what was to come. Skipper had no such problem. He was alone. Not wishing to transmit to the world, I hand signaled my O.K. in Morse code. I tapped my helmet gently (they were cloth in those days) with my open hand three times; dash, dash, dash, an O. Then, in sequence; palm, fist, palm for dash, dot, dash, a K. He grinned, lowered his goggles and set about to execute the world's best and smoothest loop. Down we went to gather speed. Skipper led us into a smooth entry for the loop. Rounding out on our back near the top of the loop I began to get that all too familiar feeling. The controls got sloppy and I was falling behind even though the J Bird was pulling full power. In a step down formation I had to make a larger loop than my leader. With a passenger and his bag aboard, my aircraft was much heavier then Skipper's. Even as this realization flashed through my mind, the "J" snapped into a spin. Observing that Mother Earth was rapidly rising up to smite me for my sin, I knew I had to recover; but where was Skipper? In one and a half turns I was out of it. Skipper? Skipper? No Skipper. Evasive action was not an option at this point. I gasped with relief for there was Skipper emerging from under the nose not more than 100 feet ahead and 45° nose down rounding out for the bottom of the loop. Since I had retarded the power to aid in the spin recovery, I eased it on again to position myself back into formation exactly where I left it. As we leveled off to complete the loop, I earned a couple of atta boys from the back seat. Skipper, oblivious of the blunder, turned to me and I could see the corners of his lips reaching for his ears. He gave me big thumb up as I tried to recover from an overdose of adrenalin! Ahhhhh, humble pie. Sooooo good for the soul! A Good Time on the July Fly-Out // by Dale Evans On the Saturday following the July 19 OPA Central Oregon Chapter meeting, four airplanes from Bend and one from Prineville met in Joseph for lunch, did the David Manuel Gallery and Museum tour, and visited with the artist in his studio to view his works in progress. Oliver and Bonnie Steele were weathered in at Sunriver and canceled out. Gordon and Mary Lou Shortreed opted for a B&B in Joseph Saturday night, while Gary Miller and his daughter returned to Bend. Dean and Wendy Cameron, Bob and Nancy Lecklider, and Dale and Ginny Evans continued on to McCall, Idaho for fuel and supplemental provisions in route to Johnson Creek. Twenty-three airplanes from a half dozen states were lined up along the grass strip when we arrived at Johnson Creek to set up tents and prepare the evening meal. At nearly 5,000 feet msl, it was close to frosty the next morning when the Cameron and Lecklider camps were struck and loaded for departure, helped by a hot shower, and fresh coffee furnished by the airstrip's caretaker. Then, off to Sulfur Creek, as well known in the Idaho backcountry for breakfast, as Johnson Creek is for the other amenities. Seven airplanes were there ahead of us, with a full (pun intended) crew seated on the lawn to judge approaches and landings. An everything omelet, sausage, and biscuits and gravy overfilled a large plate, and probably brought most of the planes back up to GTOW. The Camerons and Leckliders returned to Bend, and the Evans' went back to Johnson Creek for the remainder of the week. Several of the airplanes at Johnson Creek had departed, but we always had six or eight there for company, including two that were there for two weeks. We hiked up to the hot springs, about 50 minutes of steady plodding, and how the old bath tub, absent its claw feet, arrived at the site, I'll never know. It has three pipes, each delivering a different temperature of slightly sulfurous water, available to mix for your perfect soak. We visited Moose Creek, and again found pilots who had been camping for periods of a week or more. Four airplanes from Texas had relocated there from Johnson Creek as part of their month-long outing. The Chamberlain Basin airstrip had only one campsite in use when we stopped there, but we talked with several pilots who had visited the strip in search of morel mushrooms which commonly flourish after a wildfire. Last year's fire had burned right up to the strip, but the country was beginning to green up. We were again impressed by the recreational use these backcountry strips receive. A California couple with two children, camped at Moose Creek with a C-182 for their 15th annual trip, had shipped their camp gear by UPS to Grangeville, and flew it in from there. The Johnson Creek caretaker said the UPS truck delivers and picks up camp supplies at the airstrip on a regular basis, allowing airplane campers to enjoy the backcountry without being overweight for the conditions. The recreational use of the airstrips provide the nearby small towns with airports substantial additional fuel sales and other business. Every morning, beginning about 7:00 AM, the other airplanes departed Johnson Creek for breakfast at nearby lodges and small towns, usually followed by an hour or two of sightseeing, or a trip to an airport with fuel, a grocery store, and ice. In my view, the 1996 report on The Economic Value of Airports in Oregon, significantly underestimated the economic contributions that recreational pilots make to state and local economies. Planners at all levels of government in Oregon, where tourism has consistently been recognized as one of the top two or three drivers of the economy, have failed to recognize the tourists in small general aviation airplanes. A case can be made that it is good economic sense to improve the facilities at the few recreational airstrips that Oregon has to enjoy. Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron Last month was an exceptionally great potluck. It wasn't planned, but the theme must have been Italian. We had several varieties of lasagna, all of which were excellent. The dessert table was overflowing with way too many good things. Thank you Nancy Lecklider for the lemon meringue pie. The carrot cake, apple pie, and strawberry rhubarb pie were also great choices. If you haven't been to a potluck lately, you don't know what you are missing. Our speakers last month were Richard Benson and Dale Evans. Both are experienced Idaho backcountry fliers. Richard shared some of his experiences and impressions on flying into Johnson Creek and a few of the other strips in northern Idaho. Dale filled in with updates on the airport layout plan, upcoming events with the OPA, and his impressions on several Idaho airports. If you haven't been into northern Idaho, you just haven't been seen some of God's best work. The mountains are much more rugged than we have in Central Oregon. The valleys are full of clear streams and the wildlife is plentiful. Many of the airstrips in northern Idaho are not as difficult as you may think. Johnson Creek is especially beautiful and easy to get to. Last months destination for our fly-out was Joseph, Oregon. We had a great turn out with six planes and 14 pilots and passengers. We were a little ragged on the departure with starting times varying by over an hour but we all ended up in the same place. Our visit included a trip through the Manual Museum, a bronze foundry tour, and an all you can eat lunch for only $10 (no $100 hamburgers here!). After the foundry tour we split up into smaller groups for different events. Gordon and Mary Lou Shortreed decided to stay in Joseph at a Japanese Bed & Breakfast. I can't wait to find out what the Japanese eat for breakfast. Arnie & Carol Vetterick and their friends stayed in Joseph and did the art gallery tour. Gary Miller and his daughter (she's a bundle of energy and a lot of fun on our trips) were last seen hunting for trophies and unique memorabilia. The Evans, Leckliders and Camerons all took off for Joseph Creek in northern Idaho. The Joseph Creek camping was everything it was rumored to be. Dale and his Maul led the way like an indian scout. He didn't seem lost or even slightly bewildered. I, on the other hand, brought up the rear and wandered, worried, and wondered at it all. New airstrips always make me a little nervous, and a grass strip in a deep canyon was no exception, but Johnson Creek really turned out to be relatively easy. Sometimes we envision things to be much harder than they really are. My 210 only used half of the 3300' smooth grass runway. There were 23 planes at Johnson Creek that night and there was still room for many more. The river was clear, cool and soothing, the camping was comfortable, and the warm shower in the morning made it feel like home. Breakfast the next morning was at Sulphur Creek, a gravel strip with a lodge, cabins, and horseback riding. We ate so much that I had to recalculate my weight and balance. The morning air in the mountains was smooth and flying through the canyons was incredibly beautiful. Flying Idaho is a trip we should make an annual event. Touring and landing as a group takes much of the stress out of the unknown and adds to the experience. Next time I`ll take my fly rod and scare a few fish along the way. AUGUST MEETING - AUGUST 16th: Thursday night. Have you ever dreamed of flying to Alaska? Wondered what it was like and how challenging it might be? Well don't miss this month's meeting. Mike Brownlee, Arnie Vetterick, and Dean Cooper just went to Alaska and they will be sharing their story with us. They will be providing true answers to many of your oft thought questions, such as: Are customs agents really human? Does the sun ever shine or are rain delays a way of life? If I camp under the wing, will the moose eat all my lunch meat? Are the mountains really that steep and do I need a vertical climb rate to get over them? Several of our other members have been to Alaska and have lived there. This meeting is an opportunity to bring your photographs and stories about the north country. Share with the rest of us some of your adventures. There will be a special prize for the person who brings the photograph of the most inhospitable airstrip at which they actually landed. It always pays to come to the Central Oregon OPA meetings! Since the theme of the meeting is "flying to Alaska" lets make the potluck match. Bring something you think you might eat on a trip to the north (whale blubber, freeze dried rations, caviar - I don't know I've never been there). Social starts at 6:00, Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. AUGUST 10-12: OPA Festival of Flight, Newport, OR. Support the state OPA! AUGUST 10-12: McCall Family Fly-in 3 Hours free dual instruction and seminars. Camp under the wing or get room reservations early. AUGUST FLY-OUT: AUG. 18th This month we will try the Oregon Coast once again. Gary Miller will lead us to Pacific City. Landing right next to the beach, easy walking to restaurants and tourist events. This is an easy fly-out for young and old. Bring a friend. Show someone else the benefits and fun which can be had when flying an airplane! We'll meet at the flight services building in Bend at 9:00 am. AUGUST 24-25: Madras Air Fair The air fair opens at 3:00 Friday afternoon at the Madras airport. Activities include B-25 bombing runs; jet powered dragsters racing each other and an airplane; aerobatics; static display of warbirds, antiques, RC models; airplane rides in a T-6 or steerman; food booths. Friday night there will be a twilight air show and dancing to Betty Berger's Big Band (40's big band - swing band). Saturday's activities start with a pancake breakfast at 8:00; Saturday's airshow starts at 1:30. SEPTEMBER 1 & 2: Gold Beach Fly-In & Ham Radio Swap Meet - 8:00 to 4:00 Includes vintage aircraft and warbird displays, biplanes, skydivers, car show, RC planes, and pancake breakfast. SEPTEMBER 8: John Day Fly-In and Fun Day Events include breakfast, skydiving demonstration, USFS rappelling and retardant demonstration, "Sixchuter" powered parachute demonstration, and youth helicopter rides. SEPTEMBER 8: Hood River Fly-In Pancake breakfast 7:00-11:00, lunch 11:30-4:00. A community event featuring warbirds, antique and experimental aircraft, RC models and airplane & helicopter rides. SEPTEMBER 14-16: Oregon Air Fair - Albany Visit our web site at: co-opa.rellim.com for more info and link to the state OPA website. For members only lists: User name: S07 Password: 123.0 For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. Please submit August contributions by August 31stst. From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Aug 20 17:07:45 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:07:45 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Festival, Rodeo & Fly-In Message-ID: <53.a8a37f6.28b28fd1@aol.com> I am Gary Casteel from Paisley, OR, a member of OPA. I would like to formally invite the Central Oregon Chapter of OPA to add us to your "Fly-Out" schedule for July 27, 28, and 29, 2002. During the last full weekend in July, the City of Paisley goes all out for its major event during the year. It is a combination of several activities, City Festival, Rodeo, Skeet Shoot, Fly-In, and Acrobatic Air Show. In 2001 we celebrated the reopening of our newly expanded and paved runway and parking area with a ribbon cutting by the Oregon Director of Aviation, Ann Crook and local VIP's. For information on each of these activities and pictures of this years events, look at our web pages. City of Paisley: City of Paisley Paisley Airport: Paisley Airport 2001 Fly-In: Paisley Airport - Fly-In City Festival: Mosquito Festival Activities during Festival: Mosquito Festival events There is never a charge for landing, tie downs, overnight camping or van transportation the one-mile into town or the Rodeo. Next year we have already confirmed an acrobatic air show (see web page), and a T-6 Texan offering rides. Powered Parachutes will be overflying the Grand Parade, adding color to the sky and offering rides. The Festival will offer many activities and an assortment of foods and drinks. I highly recommend the deep-pit beef Bar-B-Q for lunch! We will also be presenting awards for several classes of aircraft during the Fly-In. We are located north of Lakeview, and south of Christmas Valley in the high desert. A direct flight to Bend takes me about 45 minutes in my Cherokee 180C, over flat (safe) land all the way. If you would like, we can arrange for a private parking area for just your club. Let us know how many and we will set it up for you. Although the activities begin on Friday and continue Sunday morning, most are held on Saturday. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, please e-mail me. I am on the City Council, the Festival Committee and am AOPA's, ASN for Paisley. If you hold a Fly-In, please let us know, as we would like to support you also. Gary Casteel N8402W@aol.com From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Aug 21 21:15:10 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:15:10 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service Message-ID: <000801c12a7d$fa6b5020$0500a8c0@empnet> This is an address http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/project/adds for a new = weather site which has lots of info which is relatively easy to access = and read. It has links to the National Weather Service, National Center = for Enviromental Prediction, satellites, radar, winds aloft, pilot = reports of icing, etc.... =20 Check it out. It seems to be one of the better ones I have found. Dean Cameron From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Aug 21 23:39:44 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Matt Verdieck) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:39:44 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service References: <000801c12a7d$fa6b5020$0500a8c0@empnet> Message-ID: <001001c12a92$2c852680$32a8e4d8@bendcable.com> Hi Dean, Thanks for the pointer but the link appears broken? or else it is just = down when I tried. Matt From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Aug 22 01:16:28 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:16:28 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service Message-ID: <61.1261166f.28b453dc@aol.com> Dean, Sorry, I missed you last Thursday. Little Max had us completely worn out by 6pm. However, I was talking with a friend today that introduced me to a website called AVWEB.COM It's all the latest avitation news and information. Hope you like it! Talk Soon, Clay From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Aug 22 10:18:49 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:18:49 +0800 Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service References: <000801c12a7d$fa6b5020$0500a8c0@empnet> Message-ID: <3B82A609.8CD46640@myexcel.com> In the ADDS URL, use "projects" instead of "project" and it should work ... or just use http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ which takes you to their homepage. Mike Bond From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Aug 28 14:01:57 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:01:57 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service Message-ID: <11e.3da9c17.28bcf045@aol.com> In a message dated 8/21/01 1:23:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dcameron@empnet.com writes: > http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/project/adds Unable to access this site, is this correct? Bob Hollowell From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Aug 28 15:22:31 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:22:31 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service References: <11e.3da9c17.28bcf045@aol.com> Message-ID: <000f01c12fcc$dfb99580$0500a8c0@empnet> To all who received the aviation weather address: I sent an old address and forgot an "s" to boot. Try http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ Sorry for the confusion, Dean Cameron ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service > In a message dated 8/21/01 1:23:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > dcameron@empnet.com writes: > > > > http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/project/adds > > Unable to access this site, is this correct? > > Bob Hollowell > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Sep 3 04:38:16 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Al Sandner) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 20:38:16 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service References: <11e.3da9c17.28bcf045@aol.com> <000f01c12fcc$dfb99580$0500a8c0@empnet> Message-ID: <000801c13429$deaa70e0$4e25a3ce@default> Thanks Dean, this works now. The other one didn't. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Cameron" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service > To all who received the aviation weather address: > I sent an old address and forgot an "s" to boot. > Try http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ > Sorry for the confusion, > Dean Cameron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Co-opa]New weather site - Aviation Digital Data Service > > > > In a message dated 8/21/01 1:23:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > dcameron@empnet.com writes: > > > > > > > http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/project/adds > > > > Unable to access this site, is this correct? > > > > Bob Hollowell > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Co-opa mailing list > > Co-opa@rellim.com > > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Sep 12 21:35:03 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:35:03 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <200109122035.f8CKZ3o19556@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! This just in from Dale Evans: >From Gindevans@aol.com Wed Sep 12 13:33:25 2001 > Confirmed with Gwen Morrow today: The OREGON AIR FAIR is > still scheduled to go Saturday and Sunday, September 15 and > 16. Hope we can fly by then. -- > > Dale RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Sep 13 11:21:10 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 03:21:10 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]September Newsletter Message-ID: <200109131021.f8DALAp00994@catbert.rellim.com> CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER Bud Fincham, President 2252 NW Fernie Court Bend, Oregon 97701 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: September 20, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Roy Panter, Oregon State Police. Roy works for the game patrol department and has extensive experience flying Eastern Oregon. Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar His name was Byrnes - Pappy Byrnes, the legendary Pappy Byrnes. Pappy's experience in twin-engine flying boats included the Norman-Hall and the Consolidated P2Y (both biplanes). He was loaned to Pan American Airlines to lay out the refueling points and air routes to South America. He was a Chief Aviation Pilot, USN, as was I at the time, but he was many many years my senior. One day, Pappy needed a copilot for a ferry trip from Norfolk, Virginia to Pensacola, Florida. I jumped at the chance to fly as his copilot and in a PBY at that. Halfway into the flight, Mother Nature beckoned Pappy aft. Pappy had those P&W 1830 engines running at 1800 RPM and 30 inches of manifold pressure. To keep from embarrassing the old boy, I very slowly increased the RPM to 2500 and eased the throttles up to the original 30 inches; this was more in keeping with standard operations. I didn't fool Pappy at all. When he climbed into an aircraft, he and the machine became one. Pappy stormed into the cockpit and told me in no uncertain terms that I was wasting gas and shortening the life of the engine. I started to defend myself, but he silenced me with a priceless admonition that lives with me to this day, "Don't argue with me! I've got more time between left and right mag than you have in the air." Right then he introduced me to BMEP (brake mean effective pressure); all this was long before Lindbergh propounded the concept to the military. For the remainder of the flight he lectured me with the necessity to keep current with progress. "Of equal importance," he growled, "is to maintain proficiency in your flying." You might ask, "O.K., now where are you going with this?" So, I'll tell you. After a long hiatus from flying because my Sawbones, Dr. Newby literally lived up to his appellation by doing so on my back. It was after an even longer time since my last flight on instruments that I prevailed upon Mike Bond to ride shotgun for me while I tried to get current. I took the flight cold - after all a pilot with my experience can do no wrong: - WRONG! A pilot with my experience can fly instrument approaches cold; a guy like me doesn't have to review the approaches before taking a fling flying (alliteration with deliberation) them: - WRONG! The flight was not a total disaster because I learned that to maintain proficiency, one must exercise his or her skills. I flew the worst flight in my memory. Arrogance, it was, pure and simple! Need I say more? OPA - Central Oregon Chapter Officers The following officers were recently elected to serve the Central Oregon OPA Chapter: President: Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend OR 97701 541 330-1853 nancybob@teleport.com Vice President: Dean Cameron 20015 Chaney Road Bend OR 97701 541 389-8285 dcameron@empnet.com Secretary/Treas: Gary E. Miller 109 NW Wilmington Ave Bend OR 97702 541 383-2435 gem@rellim.com Flyout Chair: Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend OR 97702 541 389-1456 doww@bendnet.com Program Chair: Philip Wolfe 19569 SW Brookside Way Bend OR 97702 541 312-4643 skywagon@cns-nw.com Internet Membership roster is online at: http://co-opa.rellim.com/members/members.html Web site is: http://co-opa.rellim.com Aviation weather address: http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron Our guest speakers last month were Arnie Vetterick and Mike Brownlee. They gave a great and informative talk on their trip to Alaska. There were lots of great photos showing some really nice scenery. A trip to Alaska should be on every pilot's itinerary. I look forward to when I might be able to go some day. We have many members in our club who have lived in Alaska. If you ever want to go just ask around and you will get lots of great pointers and tips on where, when, and how. Thanks to Arnie and Mike for sharing their experience with us. Our fly-out in August was really great. We went to Pacific City on the coast. The weather was wonderful. Clear skies and smooth air the whole way. Michael Guth took is beautiful Lancair into this short strip (1800'). I think he said it was fun? The airport is really pretty easy but speed management is important. The strip is right in town with easy walking to shops, restaurants, and the beach. The Guth's and Lecklider's returned to Bend after Pacific City while the Gary Miller and the Cameron's (with guests) continued down the coast. We spotted several whales and had a really great time. Gary stopped at one last grass strip on the way home and reports that it was a challenge on departure. We'll get more feed back on his experience at our next meeting. SEPTEMBER MEETING - SEPTEMBER 20th: Thursday night. This months guest speaker will be Roy Panter with the Oregon State Police. Roy works in the game patrol department and has flown most of Eastern Oregon. He has a wealth of experience to share with us. Learn about what he does, some of the unique places he flies and how to stay safe from someone who is out there every day and still loving it. Come and listen to Roy and bring a guest. Several of our other members brought photos of Alaska to last months meeting. Phil Wolfe had the best shots of the toughest looking airstrips. I'm not sure if I would take my 4 wheel drive Chevy to some of the places Phil has taken his plane. If you didn't get a chance to see Phil's photo album, ask him to show it to you some day. Social starts at 6:00, Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. SEPTEMBER 15 & 16: Oregon Air Fair - Albany. Static displays and vendors. Easy flight from Bend for the day. SEPTEMBER 15 & 16: Reno Air Races. If you haven't seen this yet, you should go. SEPTEMBER FLY-OUT: SEPT. 22nd - Club sponsered BBQ! O.K. I've been threatening to go to Prospect for several months and this is it. Prospect is just south of Crater Lake on the way to Medford. It is a nice long paved strip (50'x 4000') in the mountains. This is one of the prettier flights from Central Oregon. Let's fly the Cascade Lakes and over Crater Lake. This is a perfect flight to bring a guest. The scenery is unmatched, the club will be providing hamburgers, hot dogs, and veggie burgers. All you have to bring is a side dish and an appetite. Let's make this the best turnout of the season. Winter will be setting in soon and the opportunities to fly will get less and less. So make sure to join us for this trip. Share your love of flying with your friends or family. We'll meet at the flight services building in Bend at 9:00 am. Visit our web site at: co-opa.rellim.com for more info and link to the state OPA website. For members only lists: User name: S07 Password: 123.0 For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron (541) 389-8285 or dcameron@empnet.com Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. Contribution can be sent to: Cheresse Howard, P O Box 40, Sisters, OR 97759-0040 or Fax 541-549-1179 or e-mail to: cheressehoward@cs.com. Please submit September contributions by September 30th. From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Sep 19 01:46:19 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:46:19 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <200109190046.f8J0kJr21637@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Roy Panter of the Oregon State Police will be our speaker at the CO-OPA meeting this Thursday. Socializing starts at 6:00 in the Flight Services Building. If VFR is allowed this Saturday then the Fly Out will be to Prospect for a barbecue lunch. Please RSVP is you are coming so we can buy the proper amount of food and drink. RGDS GARY (Sec./Treas. CO-OPA) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Sep 20 17:03:08 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 12:03:08 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Fwd: Latest NOTAM on VFR flight Message-ID: <10f.57eaf25.28db6d3c@aol.com> > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (rly-yg05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.5]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINYG54-0920102943; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:29:43 -0400 > Received: from mail.aopa2.org (mail.iaopa.org [208.27.40.67]) by rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG56-0920102925; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:29:25 -0400 > Received: by mail.aopa2.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) > id ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:32:01 -0400 > Received: from MARY-CATHERINE-TENNANT (MARY-CATHERINE- [172.16.11.254]) by mail.aopa2.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) > id TG893RHX; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:28:54 -0400 > From: ASN > Reply-To: ASN > To: gindevans@aol.com > Message-ID: <200109201028550894.0065CD7F@mail.aopa2.org> > X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.02.00 (4) > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:28:55 -0400 > Subject: Latest NOTAM on VFR flight > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====_10009961352088=_" > > > --=====_10009961352088=_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > =20 > > > =20 > > Some VFR operations restored > Boyer's town meeting interrupted with good news that FAA gives partial > relief for VFR operations =20 > > Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:20:58 PM, ET - While conducting a Pilot > Town Meeting in Columbus, Ohio, AOPA President Phil Boyer was called by > his staff, advising him that a notam had just been released by the FAA > authorizing the limited return of Part 91 VFR flights. "This is an > crucial step in restoring the nation's important general aviation > system. Rest assured the effort isn't finished," said Boyer.=20 > > > VFR is now permitted for U.S. registered aircraft outside of "enhanced" > Class B airspace; that is, Class B airspace within the lateral limits > from the surface to infinity. No VFR flights are permitted over the top > of Class B airspace, nor are VFR operations permitted from airports and > airspace "under the shelf" of Class B airspace. In addition, several > Temporary Flight Restrictions > remain in effect.=20 > > > Under the FAA notam, VFR flight training operations are prohibited. > However, AOPA has been advised by the FAA that this will be discussed at > a meeting with the White House on Thursday morning. In addition, > restrictions continue to apply to banner towing, traffic > watch/reporting, airship/blimps, and news reporting.=20 > > > It is imperative that pilots receive a full briefing from FSS or DUATS > and familiarize themselves with the text of the > notam.=20 > > specialFDC 1/0224 > ATTENTION ALL OPERATORS - SPECIAL NOTICE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL > FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 91.139 (EMERGENCY AIR TRAFFIC RULES), > PART 91 IFR AND VFR AIRCRAFT OPERATION ARE AUTHORIZED AS SPECIFIED IN > NOTAMS 1/0111 AND 1/0112 . > [0111 and 0112 are identical--ed.] TO THE EXTENT THAT CONTRARY LANGUAGE > EXISTS, THIS NOTAM SHALL SUPERCEDE.=20 > > > NOTE: FOR PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, THE "TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S." > MEANS THE AIRSPACE OVER THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES AND POSSESSIONS AND > THE AIRSPACE OVERLYING THE WATERS BETWEEN THE U.S. COAST AND 12 NAUTICAL > MILES FROM THE U.S. COAST.=20 > > > NOTE: FOR PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, AN OVERFLIGHT MEANS THE AIRCRAFT TAKES > OFF FROM AND LANDS AT LOCATIONS OUTSIDE THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES OR > POSSESSIONS BUT ENROUTE TRANSITS THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S. > WITHOUT LANDING IN THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES OR POSSESSIONS.=20 > > > NOTE: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" IS > DEFINED AS THAT AIRSPACE WITHIN THE EXTREME LATERAL LIMIT OF CLASS B > AIRPACE FROM SURFACE TO INFINITY (I.E. SUCH OPERATIONS ARE NOT > AUTHORIZED WITHIN, BELOW, OR ABOVE CLASS B AIRSPACE): > > PART I. EXCEPT FOR THE OPERATIONS LISTED BELOW, PART 91 VFR OPERATION > ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S., FOR U.S. > REGISTERED AIRCRAFT PROVIDED THAT THOSE OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED OUTSIDE > "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE." > > A. THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED:=20 > > > 1. CIVIL AIRCRAFT VFR FLIGHT TRAINING OPERATIONS=20 > > 2. BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS=20 > > 3. SIGHT SEEING FLIGHT OPERATIONS CONDUCTED FOR COMPENSATION OR > HIRE (UNDER PART 91, PURSUANT TO THE EXCEPTION IN 119.1(e)(2))=20 > > 4. TRAFFIC WATCH FLIGHT OPERATIONS=20 > > 5. AIRSHIP/BLIMP OPERATIONS=20 > > 6. NEWS REPORTING OPERATIONS=20 > > > B. EXAMPLES OF AUTHORIZED OPERATIONS, OUTSIDE "ENHANCED CLASS B > AIRSPACE" INCLUDE:=20 > > > 1. AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE REPOSITIONING.=20 > > 2. BALLOONS.=20 > > 3. CIVIL AIR PATROL.=20 > > 4. GLIDERS.=20 > > 5. MANUFACTURER PRODUCTION FLIGHT TESTS.=20 > > 6. MAPPING/PHOTOGRAPHY MISSIONS.=20 > > 7. PIPELINE/POWERLINE INSPECTIONS.=20 > > 8. SEAPLANES.=20 > > 9. SKYDIVING.=20 > > 10. ULTRALIGHTS.=20 > > 11. WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS.=20 > > > PART II. THE FOLLOWING PART 91 IFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED WITHIN THE > TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S. > > 1. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT DEPARTING THE U.S. WITH NO > INTERMEDIATE STOPS WITHIN THE U.S.=20 > > 2. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT OVERFLYING THE U.S. WITH A GROSS > TAKEOFF WEIGHT LESS THAN 95,000 POUNDS.=20 > > PART III. AUTHORIZATIONS. > > 1. ALL PART 91 IFR/VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN ALASKAN > AIRSPACE.=20 > > 2. WITHIN "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE," ALL MEDIVAC, > RESCUE/RECOVERY, FIRE FIGHTING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EMERGENCY > EVACUATION AIRCRAFT CAN CONDUCT IFR OR VFR OPERATIONS USING AN > ATC-ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE.=20 > > 3. COMMERCIAL SPACE OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND MUST BE APPROVED > IN ACCORDANCE WITH ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES.=20 > > PART IV. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR AUTHORIZATION STATUS CONTACT LOCAL > FAA FLIGHT SERVICE STATION AT 1-800-WXBRIEF.=20 > > > > _____ =20 > > BM_0112!FDC 1/0112 ZZZ PART 1 OF 5 ..SPECIAL NOTICE.. Updated 9/19/01 > 11:18:07 AM > ATTENTION ALL OPERATORS - SPECIAL NOTICE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL > FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 91.139 (EMERGENCY AIR TRAFFIC RULES) > U.S. MILITARY AND U.S. GOVERNMENT AIRCRAFT, AS WELL AS U.S. OR CANADIAN > REGISTERED AIRCRAFT, CONDUCTING IFR OPERATIONS, ARE AUTHORIZED IN UNITED > STATES CONTROLLED AIRSPACE IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE REGULATIONS > AND NOTICES TO AIRMEN SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS:=20 > > PART I - U.S. OPERATIONS.=20 > > > 1. PART 121 AND PART 125 OPERATORS INCLUDING FERRY FLIGHTS ARE > PERMITTED TO OPERATE BETWEEN U.S. SECURE AIRPORTS.=20 > > 2. PART 121 CARGO OPERATORS IN THE U.S. ARE AUTHORIZED TO RESUME > OPERATIONS.=20 > > 3. PART 135 IFR AND VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE WITH > AN ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE. PART 135 AIRCRAFT THAT DO NOT HAVE A > COMPANY CALL SIGN MUST FILE A "T" PRIOR TO THE AIRCRAFT TAIL NUMBER (FOR > EXAMPLE, "TN552Q").=20 > > 4. ALL PART 133 OPERATIONS ARE APPROVED, EXCEPT FOR THOSE > OPERATIONS CONDUCTED UNDER 14 CFR SECTION 133.33 (D) (CONGESTED AREA > OPERATIONS.) APPROVED PART 133 OPERATIONS CAN OPERATE IN AND OUT OF > SECURE OR NONSECURE AIRPORTS. THESE AIRCRAFT MUST OPERATE WITH AN > ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE.=20 > > 5. PART 91 AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED WITHIN THE UNITED > STATES CONTROLLED AIRSPACE, INCLUDING HAWAII AND ALL U.S. TERRITORIES, > PROVIDED OPERATORS FILE AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN AND OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE > WITH IFR FROM DEPARTURE TO DESTINATION.=20 > > 6. PART 91 AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS > FROM U.S. AIRPORTS TO AND FROM EACH OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES: JAPAN, > CANADA, MEXICO, THE BAHAMAS, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, WALES, AND NORTHERN > IRELAND PROVIDED OPERATORS FILE AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN; OPERATE IN > ACCORDANCE WITH IFR FROM DEPARTURE TO DESTINATION; MAKE NO INTERMEDIATE > STOPS; AND COMPLY WITH ALL U.S. CUSTOMS NOTIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS > TO LAND AT U.S. AIRPORTS DESIGNATED AS PORTS OF ENTRY.=20 > > 7. AIRBORNE CANCELLATION OF IFR CLEARANCE IS NOT AUTHORIZED.=20 > > 8. PILOTS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEPART VFR TO ACTIVATE IFR > CLEARANCES AIRBORNE.=20 > > 9. VFR-ON-TOP OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED.=20 > > 10. PART 91 AIRCRAFT IFR AND VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN > ALASKAN AIRSPACE.=20 > > 11. ALL PART 137 OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE NATIONAL AIRSPACE > PROVIDED THEY REMAIN CLEAR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE AREA. > > ZZZ AMDT 1/0112 SPECIAL NOTICE PART I, ITEM 12... EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY > UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. 12. PART 91 PHOTO MISSIONS, OR OTHER SUCH > ACTIVITIES THAT REQUIRE CIRCLING IN A LOCALIZED AREA, MAY BE EXEMPT FROM > THE IFR REQUIREMENT ONLY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE FLIGHT THAT THE > AIRCRAFT IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE MISSION ACTIVITY, PROVIDED THEY > REMAIN CLEAR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE AREA, TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, > AND OTHER RESTRICTED AIRSPACE. A DISCRETE BEACON CODE IS REQUIRED FOR > THE ENTIRE FLIGHT. WIE UNTIL UFN=20 > > PART II - INTERNATIONAL OPERATIONS.=20 > > > 1. PART 121, 125, AND 129 OPERATORS CAN DEPART THE U.S. FROM SECURE > AIRPORTS.=20 > > 2. PART 121 OPERATORS FROM EXTRAORDINARY LOCATIONS (THOSE STATIONS > AT WHICH THE FAA REQUIRES EXTRAORDINARY SECURITY MEASURES) OUTSIDE THE > UNITED STATES AND PART 121, 125, 129 FROM ALL AIRPORTS IN CANADA, > SCOTLAND, WALES, ENGLAND, AND NORTHERN IRELAND ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENTER > THE UNITED STATES.=20 > > 3. FAA SECURITY MAY AUTHORIZE, ON A STATION-BY-STATION BASIS, PART > 121 OPERATORS FROM NON-EXTRAORDINARY LOCATIONS TO ENTER THE U.S.=20 > > 4. PART 129 OPERATORS ARE PERMITTED TO ENTER AND OPERATE WITHIN THE > U.S. UPON AFFIRMING TO THEIR FAA PRINCIPAL SECURITY INSPECTORS THAT THEY > HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY PROVISIONS OF THE FAA EMERGENCY > AMENDMENT.=20 > > 5. ALL CANADIAN REGISTERED PART 129 OPERATORS ORIGINATING FROM AND > RETURNING TO CANADA ARE PERMITTED TO OPERATE AND OVERFLY U.S. CONTROLLED > AIRSPACE.=20 > > 6. PART 129 AIRCRAFT THAT DIVERTED TO OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE U.S. > ARE PERMITTED TO CONTINUE TO THEIR FINAL U.S. DESTINATION.=20 > > 7. PART 135 OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND MUST BE ASSIGNED A > DISCRETE BEACON CODE. > > PART III - THE FOLLOWING FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE > UNITED STATES CONTROLLED AIRSPACE:=20 > > > 1. OVERFLIGHTS OF THE SOVEREIGN TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES > EXCEPT AS APPROVED BY FAA. (NOTE: AIRCRAFT OPERATORS MUST ASCERTAIN THE > STATUS OF ITS DESTINATION AIRPORT).=20 > > 2. PART 91 VFR OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED. > > PART IV - SPECIAL INFORMATION.=20 > > > 1. ALL MEDIVAC, MILITARY, FIRE FIGHTING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND > HURRICANE EVACUATION AIRCRAFT (HURRICANE EVAC AIRCRAFT OPERATING ALONG > THE COASTAL STATES FROM TEXAS TO NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING AIRSPACE OVER > THE GULF OF MEXICO FOR OIL RIG EVACUATION) CAN OPERATE BETWEEN ALL > AIRPORTS AND OPERATE WITH AN ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE.=20 > > 2. U.S REGISTERED AIRCRAFT ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN FIRE FIGHTING > OPERATIONS MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE BEACON CODE REQUIRMENT.=20 > > 3. PIPELINE/POWERLINE OPERATIONS MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE IFR > REQUIREMENT ONLY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE FLIGHT THAT THE AIRCRAFT IS > ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN PIPELINE/POWERLINE OPERATIONS. A DISCRETE BEACON > CODE IS REQUIRED FOR THE ENTIRE FLIGHT.=20 > > 4. FOREIGN MILITARY OR FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AIRCRAFT MUST REQUEST > APPROVAL FOR FLIGHT OPERATIONS IN SOVEREIGN U.S. AIRSPACE BY TELEPHONING > 202-736-7854 OR 202-736-7158. THIS APPROVAL MUST BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO > FILING AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN.=20 > > 5. PILOTS CAN EXPECT SOME DELAYS TO CERTAIN AIRPORTS DUE TO TRAFFIC > VOLUME.=20 > > 6. PILOTS ARE REMINDED THAT THERE ARE INCREASED SECURITY MEASURES > IN PLACE AT MANY AIRPORTS. IN ACCORDANCE WITH 14 CFR SECTION 91.103, > PRIOR TO DEPARTURE, PILOTS MUST OBTAIN PERTINENT FLIGHT INFORMATION, > INCLUDING ANY TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ALONG THEIR ROUTE OF FLIGHT > OR AT THEIR POINT OF DEPARTURE/ARRIVAL PRIOR TO DEPARTURE.=20 > > 7. THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RESTRICTION ARE AIRCRAFT OPERATING > IN SUPPORT OF MEDICAL EMERGENCY, RESCUE AND RECOVERY MISSIONS, > FIRE-FIGHTING OR NATIONAL EMERGENCY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND HURRICANE > EVACUATION.=20 > > 8. TRANSIT OF U.S. CONTROLLED AIRSPACE BY ANY AIRCRAFT BEYOND THE > 12 NAUTICAL MILE TERRITORIAL LIMIT IS PERMITTED.=20 > > 9. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR AUTHORIZATION STATUS CONTACT THE FAA > COMMAND CENTER AT 703-787-8351 OR 703-787-8179. > > !FDC 1/9875 ZZZ U.S. NATIONAL AIRSPACE SYSTEM INTERCEPT PROCEDURES. > UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN THE U.S. NATIONAL > AIRSPACE, IF CAPABLE, WILL MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON VHF GUARD 121.5 > OR UHF 243.0. IT IS INCUMBENT ON ALL AVIATORS TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND > THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES IF INTERCEPTED. REVIEW "AERONAUTICAL INFORMATION > MANUAL" SECTION > 6, 5-6-2 > FOR INTERCEPT PROCEDURES. TCAS EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT EXPECT SPURIOUS TCAS > COMMANDS. INTERECEPTED AIRCRAFT WILL SELECT 'TA" ON THEIR TCAS EQUIPMENT > UPON VISUALLY ACQUIRING THE INTERCEPTOR AIRCRAFT.=20 > > !FDC 1/9755 ZZZ AFGHANISTAN ADVISORY > EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. 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Some VFR > operations restored
Boyer's town meeting > interrupted with good news that FAA gives partial relief for VFR > operations
Wednesday, September 19, > 2001 8:20:58 PM, ET — While conducting a Pilot Town Meeting in > Columbus, Ohio, AOPA President Phil Boyer was called by his staff, > advising him that a notam had just been released by the FAA > authorizing the limited return of Part 91 VFR flights. "This is an > crucial step in restoring the nation's important general aviation > system. Rest assured the effort isn't finished," said Boyer. >

VFR is now permitted for U.S. registered aircraft outside of > "enhanced" Class B airspace; that is, Class B airspace within the > lateral limits from the surface to infinity. No VFR flights are > permitted over the top of Class B airspace, nor are VFR operations > permitted from airports and airspace "under the shelf" of Class B > airspace. In addition, several Temporary Flight > Restrictions remain in effect. >

Under the FAA notam, VFR flight training operations are > prohibited. However, AOPA has been advised by the FAA that this will > be discussed at a meeting with the White House on Thursday morning. > In addition, restrictions continue to apply to banner towing, > traffic watch/reporting, airship/blimps, and news reporting. >

It is imperative that pilots receive a full briefing from FSS or > DUATS and familiarize themselves with the text of the > notam.

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FDC 1/0224
ATTENTION ALL OPERATORS - SPECIAL NOTICE EFFECTIVE > IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 91.139 (EMERGENCY AIR > TRAFFIC RULES), PART 91 IFR AND VFR AIRCRAFT OPERATION ARE AUTHORIZED AS > SPECIFIED IN NOTAMS 1/0111 AND 1/0112. [0111 and 0112 > are identical--ed.] TO THE EXTENT THAT CONTRARY LANGUAGE EXISTS, > THIS NOTAM SHALL SUPERCEDE. >

NOTE: FOR PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, THE "TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE > U.S." MEANS THE AIRSPACE OVER THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES AND POSSESSIONS > AND THE AIRSPACE OVERLYING THE WATERS BETWEEN THE U.S. COAST AND 12 > NAUTICAL MILES FROM THE U.S. COAST. >

NOTE: FOR PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, AN OVERFLIGHT MEANS THE AIRCRAFT > TAKES OFF FROM AND LANDS AT LOCATIONS OUTSIDE THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES OR > POSSESSIONS BUT ENROUTE TRANSITS THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S. > WITHOUT LANDING IN THE U.S., ITS TERRITORIES OR POSSESSIONS. >

NOTE: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS NOTAM, "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE" IS > DEFINED AS THAT AIRSPACE WITHIN THE EXTREME LATERAL LIMIT OF CLASS B > AIRPACE FROM SURFACE TO INFINITY (I.E. SUCH OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED > WITHIN, BELOW, OR ABOVE CLASS B AIRSPACE):

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PART I. EXCEPT FOR THE OPERATIONS LISTED BELOW, PART 91 VFR OPERATION > ARE PERMITTED WITHIN THE TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S., FOR U.S. > REGISTERED AIRCRAFT PROVIDED THAT THOSE OPERATIONS ARE CONDUCTED OUTSIDE > "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE."

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  1. THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED: >
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    1. CIVIL AIRCRAFT VFR FLIGHT TRAINING OPERATIONS >
    2. BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS >
    3. SIGHT SEEING FLIGHT OPERATIONS CONDUCTED FOR COMPENSATION OR HIRE > (UNDER PART 91, PURSUANT TO THE EXCEPTION IN 119.1(e)(2)) >
    4. TRAFFIC WATCH FLIGHT OPERATIONS >
    5. AIRSHIP/BLIMP OPERATIONS >
    6. NEWS REPORTING OPERATIONS
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  1. EXAMPLES OF AUTHORIZED OPERATIONS, OUTSIDE "ENHANCED CLASS B > AIRSPACE" INCLUDE: >
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    1. AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE REPOSITIONING. >
    2. BALLOONS. >
    3. CIVIL AIR PATROL. >
    4. GLIDERS. >
    5. MANUFACTURER PRODUCTION FLIGHT TESTS. >
    6. MAPPING/PHOTOGRAPHY MISSIONS. >
    7. PIPELINE/POWERLINE INSPECTIONS. >
    8. SEAPLANES. >
    9. SKYDIVING. >
    10. ULTRALIGHTS. >
    11. WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT OPERATIONS.
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PART II. THE FOLLOWING PART 91 IFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED WITHIN THE > TERRITORIAL AIRSPACE OF THE U.S.

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  1. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT DEPARTING THE U.S. WITH NO INTERMEDIATE > STOPS WITHIN THE U.S. >
  2. FOREIGN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT OVERFLYING THE U.S. WITH A GROSS TAKEOFF > WEIGHT LESS THAN 95,000 POUNDS.
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PART III. AUTHORIZATIONS.

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  1. ALL PART 91 IFR/VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN ALASKAN AIRSPACE. >
  2. WITHIN "ENHANCED CLASS B AIRSPACE," ALL MEDIVAC, RESCUE/RECOVERY, > FIRE FIGHTING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EMERGENCY EVACUATION AIRCRAFT CAN > CONDUCT IFR OR VFR OPERATIONS USING AN ATC-ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON > CODE. >
  3. COMMERCIAL SPACE OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND MUST BE APPROVED IN > ACCORDANCE WITH ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES.
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PART IV. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR AUTHORIZATION STATUS CONTACT LOCAL > FAA FLIGHT SERVICE STATION AT 1-800-WXBRIEF. >

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!FDC 1/0112 ZZZ PART 1 OF 5 ..SPECIAL NOTICE.. > Updated > 9/19/01 11:18:07 AM
ATTENTION ALL OPERATORS - SPECIAL > NOTICE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR > 91.139 (EMERGENCY AIR TRAFFIC RULES) U.S. MILITARY AND U.S. GOVERNMENT > AIRCRAFT, AS WELL AS U.S. OR CANADIAN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT, CONDUCTING IFR > OPERATIONS, ARE AUTHORIZED IN UNITED STATES CONTROLLED AIRSPACE IN > ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND NOTICES TO AIRMEN SUBJECT > TO THE FOLLOWING PROVISIONS: >

PART I - U.S. OPERATIONS. >

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  1. PART 121 AND PART 125 OPERATORS INCLUDING FERRY FLIGHTS ARE > PERMITTED TO OPERATE BETWEEN U.S. SECURE AIRPORTS. >
  2. PART 121 CARGO OPERATORS IN THE U.S. ARE AUTHORIZED TO RESUME > OPERATIONS. >
  3. PART 135 IFR AND VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED TO OPERATE WITH AN > ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE. PART 135 AIRCRAFT THAT DO NOT HAVE A > COMPANY CALL SIGN MUST FILE A "T" PRIOR TO THE AIRCRAFT TAIL NUMBER (FOR > EXAMPLE, "TN552Q"). >
  4. ALL PART 133 OPERATIONS ARE APPROVED, EXCEPT FOR THOSE OPERATIONS > CONDUCTED UNDER 14 CFR SECTION 133.33 (D) (CONGESTED AREA OPERATIONS.) > APPROVED PART 133 OPERATIONS CAN OPERATE IN AND OUT OF SECURE OR > NONSECURE AIRPORTS. THESE AIRCRAFT MUST OPERATE WITH AN ASSIGNED > DISCRETE BEACON CODE. >
  5. PART 91 AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED WITHIN THE UNITED STATES > CONTROLLED AIRSPACE, INCLUDING HAWAII AND ALL U.S. TERRITORIES, PROVIDED > OPERATORS FILE AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN AND OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH IFR > FROM DEPARTURE TO DESTINATION. >
  6. PART 91 AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE AUTHORIZED TO CONDUCT OPERATIONS FROM > U.S. AIRPORTS TO AND FROM EACH OF THE FOLLOWING COUNTRIES: JAPAN, > CANADA, MEXICO, THE BAHAMAS, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, WALES, AND NORTHERN > IRELAND PROVIDED OPERATORS FILE AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN; OPERATE IN > ACCORDANCE WITH IFR FROM DEPARTURE TO DESTINATION; MAKE NO INTERMEDIATE > STOPS; AND COMPLY WITH ALL U.S. CUSTOMS NOTIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS > TO LAND AT U.S. AIRPORTS DESIGNATED AS PORTS OF ENTRY. >
  7. AIRBORNE CANCELLATION OF IFR CLEARANCE IS NOT AUTHORIZED. >
  8. PILOTS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEPART VFR TO ACTIVATE IFR CLEARANCES > AIRBORNE. >
  9. VFR-ON-TOP OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. >
  10. PART 91 AIRCRAFT IFR AND VFR OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN ALASKAN > AIRSPACE. >
  11. ALL PART 137 OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED IN THE NATIONAL AIRSPACE > PROVIDED THEY REMAIN CLEAR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE AREA.
ZZZ AMDT 1/0112 SPECIAL NOTICE PART I, ITEM 12... EFFECTIVE > IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. 12. PART 91 PHOTO MISSIONS, OR OTHER > SUCH ACTIVITIES THAT REQUIRE CIRCLING IN A LOCALIZED AREA, MAY BE EXEMPT > FROM THE IFR REQUIREMENT ONLY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE FLIGHT THAT THE > AIRCRAFT IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE MISSION ACTIVITY, PROVIDED THEY REMAIN > CLEAR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE AREA, TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, AND OTHER > RESTRICTED AIRSPACE. A DISCRETE BEACON CODE IS REQUIRED FOR THE ENTIRE > FLIGHT. WIE UNTIL UFN >

PART II - INTERNATIONAL OPERATIONS. >

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  1. PART 121, 125, AND 129 OPERATORS CAN DEPART THE U.S. FROM SECURE > AIRPORTS. >
  2. PART 121 OPERATORS FROM EXTRAORDINARY LOCATIONS (THOSE STATIONS AT > WHICH THE FAA REQUIRES EXTRAORDINARY SECURITY MEASURES) OUTSIDE THE > UNITED STATES AND PART 121, 125, 129 FROM ALL AIRPORTS IN CANADA, > SCOTLAND, WALES, ENGLAND, AND NORTHERN IRELAND ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENTER > THE UNITED STATES. >
  3. FAA SECURITY MAY AUTHORIZE, ON A STATION-BY-STATION BASIS, PART 121 > OPERATORS FROM NON-EXTRAORDINARY LOCATIONS TO ENTER THE U.S. >
  4. PART 129 OPERATORS ARE PERMITTED TO ENTER AND OPERATE WITHIN THE > U.S. UPON AFFIRMING TO THEIR FAA PRINCIPAL SECURITY INSPECTORS THAT THEY > HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY PROVISIONS OF THE FAA EMERGENCY > AMENDMENT. >
  5. ALL CANADIAN REGISTERED PART 129 OPERATORS ORIGINATING FROM AND > RETURNING TO CANADA ARE PERMITTED TO OPERATE AND OVERFLY U.S. CONTROLLED > AIRSPACE. >
  6. PART 129 AIRCRAFT THAT DIVERTED TO OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE U.S. ARE > PERMITTED TO CONTINUE TO THEIR FINAL U.S. DESTINATION. >
  7. PART 135 OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED AND MUST BE ASSIGNED A DISCRETE > BEACON CODE.
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PART III - THE FOLLOWING FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN THE > UNITED STATES CONTROLLED AIRSPACE: >

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  1. OVERFLIGHTS OF THE SOVEREIGN TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES EXCEPT > AS APPROVED BY FAA. (NOTE: AIRCRAFT OPERATORS MUST ASCERTAIN THE STATUS > OF ITS DESTINATION AIRPORT). >
  2. PART 91 VFR OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED.
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PART IV - SPECIAL INFORMATION. >

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  1. ALL MEDIVAC, MILITARY, FIRE FIGHTING, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND HURRICANE > EVACUATION AIRCRAFT (HURRICANE EVAC AIRCRAFT OPERATING ALONG THE COASTAL > STATES FROM TEXAS TO NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING AIRSPACE OVER THE GULF OF > MEXICO FOR OIL RIG EVACUATION) CAN OPERATE BETWEEN ALL AIRPORTS AND > OPERATE WITH AN ASSIGNED DISCRETE BEACON CODE. >
  2. U.S REGISTERED AIRCRAFT ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN FIRE FIGHTING OPERATIONS > MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE BEACON CODE REQUIRMENT. >
  3. PIPELINE/POWERLINE OPERATIONS MAY BE EXEMPT FROM THE IFR REQUIREMENT > ONLY FOR THAT PORTION OF THE FLIGHT THAT THE AIRCRAFT IS ACTIVELY > ENGAGED IN PIPELINE/POWERLINE OPERATIONS. A DISCRETE BEACON CODE IS > REQUIRED FOR THE ENTIRE FLIGHT. >
  4. FOREIGN MILITARY OR FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AIRCRAFT MUST REQUEST > APPROVAL FOR FLIGHT OPERATIONS IN SOVEREIGN U.S. AIRSPACE BY TELEPHONING > 202-736-7854 OR 202-736-7158. THIS APPROVAL MUST BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO > FILING AN IFR FLIGHT PLAN. >
  5. PILOTS CAN EXPECT SOME DELAYS TO CERTAIN AIRPORTS DUE TO TRAFFIC > VOLUME. >
  6. PILOTS ARE REMINDED THAT THERE ARE INCREASED SECURITY MEASURES IN > PLACE AT MANY AIRPORTS. IN ACCORDANCE WITH 14 CFR SECTION 91.103, PRIOR > TO DEPARTURE, PILOTS MUST OBTAIN PERTINENT FLIGHT INFORMATION, INCLUDING > ANY TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ALONG THEIR ROUTE OF FLIGHT OR AT > THEIR POINT OF DEPARTURE/ARRIVAL PRIOR TO DEPARTURE. >
  7. THE ONLY EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RESTRICTION ARE AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN > SUPPORT OF MEDICAL EMERGENCY, RESCUE AND RECOVERY MISSIONS, > FIRE-FIGHTING OR NATIONAL EMERGENCY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND HURRICANE > EVACUATION. >
  8. TRANSIT OF U.S. CONTROLLED AIRSPACE BY ANY AIRCRAFT BEYOND THE 12 > NAUTICAL MILE TERRITORIAL LIMIT IS PERMITTED. >
  9. IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR AUTHORIZATION STATUS CONTACT THE FAA > COMMAND CENTER AT 703-787-8351 OR 703-787-8179.
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!FDC 1/9875 ZZZ U.S. NATIONAL AIRSPACE SYSTEM INTERCEPT > PROCEDURES.
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN THE U.S. > NATIONAL AIRSPACE, IF CAPABLE, WILL MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON VHF > GUARD 121.5 OR UHF 243.0. IT IS INCUMBENT ON ALL AVIATORS TO KNOW AND > UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES IF INTERCEPTED. REVIEW "AERONAUTICAL > INFORMATION MANUAL" SECTION > 6, 5-6-2 FOR INTERCEPT PROCEDURES. TCAS EQUIPPED AIRCRAFT EXPECT > SPURIOUS TCAS COMMANDS. INTERECEPTED AIRCRAFT WILL SELECT 'TA" ON THEIR > TCAS EQUIPMENT UPON VISUALLY ACQUIRING THE INTERCEPTOR AIRCRAFT. >

!FDC 1/9755 ZZZ AFGHANISTAN ADVISORY
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UNTIL > FURTHER NOTICE. BY ORDER OF THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE FEDERAL AVIATION > ADMINISTRATION FLIGHTS WITHIN THE TERRITORY AND AIRSPACE OF AFGHANISTAN BY > ANY UNITED STATES AIR CARRIER, AND COMMERCIAL OPERATOR, BY ANY PERSON > EXERCISING THE PRIVILEGES OF AN AIRMAN CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY THE FAA, OR > BY AN OPERATOR USING AN AIRCRAFT REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES ARE > PROHIBITED UNLESS THE OPERATOR OF SUCH AIRCRAFT IS A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER. >

> > > --=====_10009961352088=_-- > From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Sep 22 03:01:12 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 22:01:12 EDT Subject: [Co-opa]Fwd: BCBC Gathering for Breakfast Invitation Message-ID: <10e.570c16b.28dd4ae8@aol.com> > Return-Path: > Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINYG15-0921141933; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:19:33 -0400 > Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (rabacal.direct.ca [199.60.229.8]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v80.21) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG33-0921141904; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:19:04 -0400 > Received: from bc-pen-a53-01-67.look.ca ([216.66.160.67] helo=gary-west) > by rabacal.direct.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #7) > id 15kUsR-0002L6-00; Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:18:16 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Message-Id: <3BFBFE21.000043.95193@gary-west> > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:18:57 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > Content-Type: Multipart/related; > type="multipart/alternative"; > boundary="------------Boundary-00=_LB06K1R4G6G000000000" > X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1500343) > From: "Gary West" > X-Priority: 3 > X-FID: D4A02689-570A-11D4-AF82-0050DAC67E11 > X-FIT: Letter > X-FCOL: Moods > X-FCAT: Characters > X-FDIS: Happy Harry > X-FVER: 1.0 > X-BG: > X-BGT: no-repeat > X-BGC: #80ff80 > X-BGPX: center > X-BGPY: center > X-ASN: F8E92E70-3EFC-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 > X-ASNF: 0 > X-ASH: F8E92E70-3EFC-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 > X-ASHF: 1 > X-AN: 3FC0A6B0-3EFF-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 > X-ANF: 0 > X-AP: 3FC0A6B0-3EFF-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 > X-APF: 1 > X-AD: C4E44520-2BF7-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030 > X-ADF: 0 > X-AUTO: X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD > X-CNT: ; > Subject: BCBC Gathering for Breakfast Invitation > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > > > --------------Boundary-00=_LB06K1R4G6G000000000 > Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; > boundary="------------Boundary-00=_LB06UGI4G6G000000000" > > > > --------------Boundary-00=_LB06UGI4G6G000000000 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Breakfast Club of British Columbia > > invites you to our next breakfast gathering=20 > > at the > > Heritage Inn > > (422 Vernon Street) > > in > > Nelson, BC > > Come out and enjoy a buffet style breakfast > > in our own private room, and=20 > > get together with other pilots and families=20 > > from around southern BC. > > Take time afterwards to wander around Nelson, > > and enjoy the town's hospitality.=20 > > Please remember to bring along your wife/friend, or other > > pilot friends, but please let us know the number=20 > > of guests in your party so we may advise the Hotel. > > DATE: September 29, 2001 > > ARRIVAL at AIRPORT: 10:00 or earlier > > BREAKFAST: 10:30 > > RSVP Please by September 27: Gary West at west@direct.ca > > (It is a short 10-15 minute walk from the Nelson Airport to downtown Nelson, > and the Heritage Inn) > > > > Welcome to the Heritage Inn.=20 > > Since March 17, 1898, the Heritage Inn has been a cherished Nelson landmark > and one of the finest hotels in British Columbia. With the time-honoured > tradition of hospitality excellence that began with original owners J. Fred > and Lydia Hume, the Heritage Inn continues to provide guests with > unparalleled service. Offering 41 nostalgic guest rooms, a restaurant, > lounge, pub, nightclub, meeting and banquet facilities, and cold beer & wine > store, the Heritage Inn caters to all needs and tastes. The hotel also > subtly combines modern technology within the heritage ambiance, and was the > first hotel in the Kootenays to earn BC Hydro's Green Hotel Plus Award, an > award given for outstanding commitment to energy efficient practices.=20 > > "It's nice to actually stay in a hotel that is older than you are." > > =97Bob Hope, Heritage Inn, 1991 > > > > Future Gatherings: > > October 27 in Chilliwack > > November 24 in Kamloops > > Suggestions for BCBC gatherings beginning again in March 2002 will be > appreciated. > > > > CONTACT=20 > > for more information about BCBC:=20 > > Gary West Tel: 250-497-6466 > > e-mail: west@direct.ca > > --------------Boundary-00=_LB06UGI4G6G000000000 > Content-Type: Text/HTML; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > "> > > > > croll=3Dyes X-FDIS=3D"Happy Harry" X-FCOL=3D"Moods" X-FCAT=3D"Moods" X-FIT= > =3D"Letter" X-ADF=3D"0" X-AD=3D"C4E44520-2BF7-11D4-BA28-0050DAC68030" X-APF= > =3D"1" X-AP=3D"3FC0A6B0-3EFF-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030" X-ANF=3D"0" X-AN=3D"3FC= > 0A6B0-3EFF-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030" X-ASHF=3D"1" X-ASH=3D"F8E92E70-3EFC-11D4-= > BA3D-0050DAC68030" X-ASNF=3D"0" X-ASN=3D"F8E92E70-3EFC-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC6803= > 0" X-FVER=3D"1.0" X-FID=3D"D4A02689-570A-11D4-AF82-0050DAC67E11" SIGCOLOR= > =3D"0"> LE width=3D"95%"> > > > > > > >
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Breakfast Club of British=20 > Columbia

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invites you to our next breakfast gathering

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at the

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Heritage Inn

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(422 Vernon Street)

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Nelson, BC

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Come out and enjoy a buffet style breakfast

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in our own private room, and

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get together with other pilots and families

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from around southern BC.

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Take time afterwards to wander around Nelson,

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and enjoy the town's hospitality.

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Please remember to bring along your wife/friend, or=20 > other

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pilot friends, but please let us know the number > >

of guests in your party so we may advise the=20 > Hotel.

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DATE: September 29, 2001

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ARRIVAL at AIRPORT: 10:00 or earlier

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RSVP Please by September 27: Gary West at=20 > west@direct.ca

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Welcome to the Heritage Inn.

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Since March 17, 1898, the Heritage Inn has been a cherished Nelson=20 > landmark and one of the finest hotels in British Columbia. With the=20 > time-honoured tradition of hospitality excellence that began with orig= > inal=20 > owners J. Fred and Lydia Hume, the Heritage Inn continues to provide=20 > guests with unparalleled service. Offering 41 nostalgic guest rooms, a= > =20 > restaurant, lounge, pub, nightclub, meeting and banquet facilities, an= > d=20 > cold beer & wine store, the Heritage Inn caters to all needs and=20 > tastes. The hotel also subtly combines modern technology within the=20 > heritage ambiance, and was the first hotel in the Kootenays to earn BC= > =20 > Hydro's Green Hotel Plus Award, an award given for outstanding commitm= > ent=20 > to energy efficient practices.

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"It's nice to actually stay in a hotel that is older than you=20 > are."

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Future Gatherings:

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October 27 in Chilliwack

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November 24 in Kamloops

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Suggestions for BCBC gatherings beginning again in March 2002 will=20= > be=20 > appreciated.

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CONTACT

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Gary West   Tel: 250-497-6466

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e-mail: west@direct.ca

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Miller) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:12:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]October Newsletter Message-ID: <200110140212.f9E2CFw15944@catbert.rellim.com> OREGON PILOTS ASSOCIATION CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER President: Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend OR 97701 541 330-1853 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: October 18, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: Dwight Coker, Air Traffic Manger, Redmond tower. Good time to learn about tower operations, and how September 11th has impacted airspace and airport security. Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar Last month, during a post flight inspection, I found that I took a bad hit on my prop. The nick was quite deep and I didn't want to fly with a stress riser like that on the prop and on me. Filing out nicks is strictly a mechanic's job, but Sisters International Hub had no AIs available. So, just to get to "The Flight Shop", I filed it down to remove all evidence of the nick and included what I thought was a reasonable radius. I flew my machine to Bend at minimum power and low RPM so that Jack's gang could do the fix both legally and right. Props are usually given short shrift on preflight inspections. I can't think of anything that is subject to more stress from start to shutdown than a prop. Torque bends it along its plane of rotation, centrifugal force wants to tear it from its hub, thrust bends it forward, and the moment (read force) between its aerodynamic center of pressure and its axis tends to twist the blade. All of the aforementioned cold works the metal to its fatigue point (what happens when you bend a copper wire back and forth many times?). Foreign object damage can produce devastating stress risers that can ultimately break off a section of the blade. When I shot off chunks of my Corsair's prop, I thought I'd shaken the fillings from my teeth as well as the engine from the aircraft. In fact, a Brazil feeder aircraft did just that, shucked the engine when a section of blade broke off. What does one do when something drastic happens to the prop? Answer - reduce power, RPM, vocalize "Our Father who art in heaven?.," assume best glide speed, and aim the pointy end of the aircraft toward the smoothest terrain you can see. Is your prop due for an overhaul? Is the "track" of the blades within specifications as defined by the manufacturer? Does your pitch control move easily? Have you ever had the prop balanced? Have you checked for cracks on the spinner? While on the subject of spinners, does your spinner have holes drilled in the juncture of the spinner and its flange to let water drain? Are the holes free of dirt? Winter is coming and if, for some reason your plane is exposed to the elements and there is a freeze after a rain, you just might find a block of ice in the bottom of the spinner, this is not conducive to smooth performance or your longevity. I place my blade in a position where the hole accommodating the blade is down to allow water to pass through. This also provides a perch for only one bird. How accurate is your tachometer? Do you push or pull your aircraft with that handy handle called a propeller? That's a bit NO NO! Oh, I know you've seen mechanics do it, but it's still a NO NO. Paint applied to the back of the blades must be uniform; it's surprising how little will affect its balance. Good information on props may be found on the net. Try www.hartzellprop.com. Find your way to "Highlights", click on the prop hub photo then click on "Preflight Considerations". Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron Last month's meeting was really great. Roy Panter with the Oregon State Police was our guest speaker. Roy flies almost every day of the week and has built up more hours than many of us combined. He shared many of his experiences, gave us tips on flying, and provided insight into his work. It was a pleasure to have Roy there and we look forward to seeing him in the skies and hearing from him again. Our fly-out for September was to Prospect, Oregon. The weather was absolutely beautiful! After landing we walked into town and checked out the Prospect Hotel, the restaurant and lounge, and the arboretum. We learned how to identify many of Oregon's trees and shrubs. Fortunately we had Dale Evans and Bob Lecklider with us. Both men have spent a lot of time in the woods during their lives, know most of the species, and made great guides for the walk. Don Wilfong went into the lounge at the restaurant and reports that it has some great wildlife mounts (cougars, deer, etc) which are well worth seeing. After working up an appetite during the walk we had a great picnic at the airport. They have a nice table under the trees and we barbecued hand made hamburgers, Polish sausage and chicken. I sure ate more than I needed. It was a very relaxing time and I enjoyed the companionship of the group. Thanks to everyone who made the trip! It was great! OCTOBER MEETING - OCTOBER 18th: Thursday night. This month we will have Dwight Coker, the air traffic manager, at the Redmond tower as our guest. Dwight is going to provide insight into the operation of the tower, ideas on how we as pilots can work with the tower controllers, report on how current events may be changing airspace and security, and answer any questions you may have. I've always gotten along really well with the guys at Redmond and look forward to meeting Dwight in person. Come and spend an evening with your fellow pilots and learn something new in the process. Social starts at 6:00, Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. FLY-OUT - OCTOBER 21st - It is just about time for another fly out .....On Sunday Oct. 21, the Sweet Home Elks Club is putting on a breakfast.....ham, eggs, hot cakes, biscuits, gravy, juice & coffee ......Just $3.00 a person and they will provide transportation to and from the airport.....I think we should plan to meet at the Flight Shop at 8:30 A. M. as they quit serving at 11:00. If weather is a problem we can pick a spot on this side of the mountains..... Chiloquin is always good and the walk to food is just cross the highway from parking. Internet Membership roster is online at: http://co-opa.rellim.com/members/members.html Web site is: http://co-opa.rellim.com Aviation weather address: http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron or Don Wilfong Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Oct 17 08:14:29 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Meeting Reminder Message-ID: <200110170714.f9H7ET220791@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Dwight Coker the Air Traffic Manager at Redmond tower will be our speaker at the CO-OPA meeting this Thursday. Socializing starts at 6:00 in the Flight Services Building. This months fly-out will be to Sweet Home for a pancake breakfast. Meet at the Flight Services Building at 8:30am on SUNDAY. RGDS GARY (Sec./Treas. CO-OPA) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676 From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Oct 17 20:24:12 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:24:12 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]THIS MONTH'S FLYOUT !! Message-ID: <200110171932.f9HJWj303999@catbert.rellim.com> HEY........A CHANGE OF PLANS.....DUE TO SEVERAL REASONS WE ARE NOT GOING TO SWEET HOME SUNDAY MORNING !! INSTEAD WE WILL FLY TO KLAMATH FALLS. THEY HAVE A CONTROL TOWER (A CHANCE TO PRACTICE) AND THE SATELLITE RESTAURANT IS RIGHT ON THE FIELD.....GOOD FOOD AND WE CAN WATCH THE F-15 FIGHTERS COME AND GO. 08:30 AT THE FLIGHT SHOP, SUNDAY MORNING 10/21/01 SEE YOU THERE...... DON WILFONG donw@bendnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Oct 26 03:16:44 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:16:44 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Visit the Rocket Garden Message-ID: <200110260216.f9Q2Gik01179@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Clayton Trenz has set up a tour of Brian (Rocket Guy) Walker's Rocket Garden just outside of Bend. All OPA members are invited to Brian's place at 10:00 AM this Saturday. Sorry for the short notice but Brian is leaving soon forr Russia and just fit us in at the last minute. Driving directions to follow. RGDS GARY From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Oct 26 09:32:01 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 01:32:01 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa]Rocket Garden Directions Message-ID: <200110260832.f9Q8W1S09008@catbert.rellim.com> Yo All! Clayton Trenz has arranged a last minute tour of Brian Walker's Rocket Garden this Saturday at 10 AM. All OPA members and friends and invited. Here are the directions to the Rocket Garden. Take 97 to Cooley Road Turn East on Cooley Road Go about 1 mile Turn Left on Scottsdale Drive Go all the way to the end of Scottsdale Drive Continue straight into driveway, past Private Property sign Bear left at Y Continue to the shop building. If you have any questions you can reach Clayton Trenz at 317-2899. Hope to see a big turnout! RGDS GARY From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 03:53:26 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 19:53:26 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000501c16d89$154560e0$9b25a3ce@donw> Hi Everybody: Potluck at Flightshop tomorrow evening. Dean is e-mailing news letter to me tomorrow morning and I will try and forward it to everyone. I am not sure I will get it sent out so everybody gets it or not.....I am not sure this will go out to everyone. Please plan to be at the Flightshop tomorrow evening for the potluck and the speaker is the new Bend City Manager.....Dean said he hopes this isn't too late to get a lot of people there. Later.....Don Wilfong. dwnw@bendnet.com FLYOUT FUN!!!! Hey if you didn't go to Klamath Falls for the Oct. Flyout you missed a really fun time. We had 8 planes and 18 people and the weather was great. Mike and Marcia Guth in their beautiful Lancaire 4P....Boy does it go and has more gadgets to play with you can count. Norma Wilfong rode back in the Lancaire, she even got to fly it.....she was all glassy eyed when she got home. Dean and Wendy Cameron rode down in the Lancaire and Dean couldn't stop talking about how great it was. Dean and Wendy's plane is down for the annual.....we all hope it gets finished soon. Joel and Lynn Premselar in their very pretty Bonanza....boy it is even prettier when you are flying in close formation with it. He had no trouble out running the Skylane. Dave and Pat Skidgel in their Skylane....that new 3 blade prop sure looks great. We (Don & Norma) flew to Alaska with them (2 planes) in 1998. Gary Miller in his Centurian along with his guest Carolyn Nelson and of course Kimmy (the dog). They took a side trip up over Crater Lake on the way home. Mike Brownlie in his Mooney with his guest Denise Pinkerton....tucking the gear up allows him to fly right by the Skylane....Grrrrrr. Nice looking Mooney. Mike and Ann Bond tucked the gear up on their Cardinal and it was just a little bit faster than a Skylane.......Oh well we can carry more of a load. Deane Cooper from Prineville came along in his Maule and Dean Cameron flew back with him....they had a photo mission to take care of back in Bend. Now here was a plane the Skylane could out run. Don and Norma Wilfong in their Skylane brought along Duane Francis as a guest. Duane lives on Pilot Butte Airport too and has a real nice Cessna 205. We all went up to the Satellite Restaurant above the terminal and the food was good. We had a great time hangar flying and maybe even lying to each other. I think we all enjoyed the whole trip. NOV. FLYOUT: Meet at the flight shop Sat. Nov. 17 at 08:30. If the weather is okay we can fly over to Independence for breakfast. Annies has good food. If that side of the mountains is bad and this side good we can fly to Pasco, WA. (157.1 k miles). The trip to Joseph was 184.5 k miles and K Falls was 118.6 k miles. If that is too far for everyone we can go to Chilloquin. See you at the pot luck.....Don & Norma Wilfong dwnw@bendnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 04:15:30 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 11:15:30 +0700 Subject: [Co-opa]November meeting Message-ID: <3BF26E72.FE8B296D@myexcel.com> CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER President: Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend OR 97701 541 330-1853 MEETING NOTICE **** POTLUCK **** Date: November 15, 2001, Thursday Time: 6:00 PM gather to socialize; WEAR YOUR NAME TAG A good time to meet other Central Oregon pilots. 6:30 PM start through the potluck line 7:00 PM meeting Place: Flight Services Building, Bend Airport Speaker: David Hales, Manager for the City of Bend Hangar Flying // by Joel Premselaar Stroll down the flight line and note the condition of tires and wheels. Surely you'll find one or more of the following defects: skid burns, foreign object damage, rubber swelling or softening due to hydraulic fluid or oil leaks, cuts, tears, tread delaminating, cracks, under or over inflated tires, wheel misalignment wear, tube slippage, out of round tires, severe weather checks, etc. Do you know what the consequences of ignoring these warning signs are? In simple terms they can be a ride in an ambulance (or a ride in a vehicle that rhymes with worse) plus $$$$ and more $$$! Your inspection for evidence of the aforementioned faults ought to be done before every flight. Under inflation, the most common cause of damage to tire's, is manifested by wear at the tire's shoulders. Low tire pressure produces excessive heat buildup due to flexing. According to the gurus, a properly inflated aircraft tire experiences twice the deflection of a passenger car's tire. The heat generated can result in the destruction of the tire's interior. Sidewalls of under inflated tires can be crushed during a hard landing. How about this - back in the days of tail wheels, I could tell which aircraft were ready for carrier deployment simply by looking at their tail wheels. Those with balloon tail wheel tires were for shore-based operations. The carrier ops aircraft had hard solid rubber tail wheel tires. Did you know that a carrier ready F4 Phantom II's tires were inflated to 450 PSI? No rim cuts or cord ruptures, but it was like carrying a bomb in each wheel well. Under inflated tires can incur damage during hard turns, slip on a wheel during braking and cause valve stems to shear. The resulting flat will provide enough fun and games for the pilot to last for at least a month! Even a teenager will know why most under inflated tires blow on takeoff. Where oh where does the debris from the tire and possibly the wheel go??? Well now, if under inflation is so bad, how about protecting yourself by over inflating the tire? Over inflation will cause center tread wear in a hurry. Over inflation reduces the shock absorbing capabilities of the landing gear thereby transmitting all kinds of stress to the airframe and especially to wheel components. The consequence of over inflation is a highly vulnerable system that will result in damage to tire cores and render the tires more susceptible to cuts, impact breaks, and bruises. The solution to the inflation problem is a preflight check of tires pressures, as per your pilot's handbook, with an accurate pressure gage when the tire is cold! Wait at least three hours cooling time after flight before checking tire pressures. Tires that sit a day or more will seep air, this is normal. Temperatures impacts tire pressure too. Expect a one percent pressure change for every 5°F outside air temperature change. Here are a few tidbits to be aware of: 1. Aircraft with spring landing gear (think Cessna) can expect to see more wear on the outboard half of each main wheel tire because the gear legs bow inboard in flight resulting in the edges of the tires hitting the runway first upon landing. Dismount the tire and turn it around as the wear starts to show. 2. Skid burns can take months off a tire's life. Skid burns show up as oval shaped patterns. When cords show through a skid burn, change the tire. Bald spots due to out of balance wheels or tires may be confused with skid burns. Watch either of these closely. 3. Replace a tire immediately any time cords become visible or bulges or blisters appear. 4. Obviously, swollen tires are bad news for retractable or panted (no, I don't mean breathless) wheels. 5. Retreaded vs new tires: Retreads will carry a letter "R" on the sidewall followed by a number denoting the number of times the carcass has been retreaded. The FAA does not limit the number of times a tire may be recapped. Many manufacturers prohibit use of retreads on their retractables or those wearing pants. Retreads tend to swell after some use. 6. New tire tubes are costly. Old tubes, if they are airworthy, may be used. My personal preference is to go for new tubes. 7. Finally, the tire. Go for the best. It will outlast a cheaper tire under any circumstances. The gurus spoke to me again and they said, "Goodyear Flight Customs' is the best." Check around because this testimonial is about five years old. DITDAH DITDAH DIT Past and Up-coming Activities // by Dean Cameron Well, the holidays are fast approaching and I'm sure everyone is getting busy planning for visits to and from family and friends. However, this is also a busy month for the Central Oregon Pilots Association. We have several activities happening this month and you had better start planning for the great Christmas party for next month! Last month we had Dwight Coker, the manager of the Redmond tower, as our guest speaker. I think we all learned something from Dwight. We should all say thank-you the next time we talk to the Redmond tower. NOVEMBER MEETING - NOVEMBER 15th: This month we will host David Hales, the new manager of the City of Bend. David comes to us from the east coast. I have been told that he is the type of manager that most of us will appreciate. That will be a tall order considering the changes in Central Oregon and the divisions in Bend. I'm hoping we can learn a little about David and his vision for Bend and possibly share with him our vision for the airport. This is a meeting where it would be really great to have a strong turnout to show the number of people interested in the airport. Bring your spouse, kids, friends, and business associates! I'm sure that everyone can learn a little from this meeting. Social starts at 6:00, Potluck at 6:30 and meeting at 7:00. NOVEMBER 27th - Tuesday Night: Keith Krimen with the Portland FAA office will be in Bend for a special training seminar. The event will be held at Hitchcock Auditorium, COCC, at 7:00 p.m.. This is a free seminar, and is open to everyone. Keith will be talking about what is new since September 11th in the FAA and air traffic control system. He will also discuss operations at Redmond, our only towered airport in Central Oregon. There will also be a short question and answer session at the end. This is a great opportunity for all of us to gain a little knowledge and learn about what is on the minds of the FAA. Be sure to attend. Bring a friend or a fellow pilot. dcameron@empnet.com Monthly Newsletter // The Central Oregon OPA chapter needs someone to compile the monthly newsletter next year. The articles, and activity information are prepared by others, but we need someone who has word processing experience and internet access to pull it all together. It generally takes half a day to compile and format the newsletter. If you can help, please contact Dean Cameron or Nancy Lecklider. Internet Visit our web site at: co-opa.rellim.com for more info and link to the state OPA website. For members only lists: User name: S07 Password: 123.0 Membership roster is online at: http://co-opa.rellim.com/members/members.hthl Web site is: http://co-opa.rellim.com Aviation weather address: http://adds.awc-kc.noaa.gov/ For more information about up-coming events, please call Dean Cameron or Don Wilfong .Member Notes NEWSLETTER IDEAS? Do you have any ideas for the newsletter? Upcoming events you want published. Trips you would like to plan with other pilots? Something useful you would like to sell? We would like your input on the newsletter. Please feel free to write a short article about an adventure or experience you would like to share. Also we'll set up some space for a classified section if you have some aviation item you would like to sell. From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 17:03:13 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:03:13 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Tonights OPA meeting Message-ID: <000d01c16df7$695ae9c0$0500a8c0@empnet> I just received a call from the office of David Hales, our new city manager. His assistant says he has the flu and regrettably does not feel up to coming to our meeting tonight. She said he would like to reschedule for a future meeting. So, David will not be our guest speaker for the evening. I apologize, but it is out of my control. I think it would be great for all of us to hear from him and to encourage him in regard to the airport. Please come to the meeting anyway and we will have a social, plan the next months Christmas party and do planning for next year. We will have Mr. Hales as a future guest. Hope to see all of you tonight! Dean Cameron From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 23:22:45 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:22:45 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]10000011.jpg;10000012.jpg Message-ID: <000801c16e2c$7fbe9f60$7025a3ce@donw> HI OPA GROUP......THIS IS A NEAT PLACE CALLED "ELK CITY, IDAHO" IT IS ABOUT 50 MILES EAST OF MOSCOW, IDAHO. I AND A FRIEND FLEW IN THERE LAST SUMMER AND HAD A HUCKLEBERRY ICE CREAM CONE. MMMMMMMGOOD DON WILFONG 10000011.jpg;10000012.jpg From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 23:32:11 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:32:11 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000501c16e2d$c0ac8540$7025a3ce@donw> C O R R E C T I O N......THE PICTURES I SENT WERE OF ELK RIVER, IDAHO NOT ELK CITY, IDAHO. DON From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 23:35:28 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:35:28 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000f01c16e2e$36123b40$7025a3ce@donw> HI AGAIN: I THOUGHT I SENT TWO PICTURES TO THE GROUP BUT......I RECEIVED THE MESSAGE WITHOUT THE PICTURES SO I GUESS NONE OF YOU GOT THEM EITHER. I WAS JUST EXPERIMENTING.....BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD I GUESS. DON From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 23:41:06 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:41:06 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]10000012.jpg Message-ID: <000801c16e2e$ffdfe9e0$7025a3ce@donw> I WILL TRY ONE PICTURE AT A TIME........DON 10000012.jpg From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 15 23:48:17 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:48:17 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <002a01c16e30$001d72a0$7025a3ce@donw> I GIVE UP.....I CAN SEND PICTURES TO INDIVIDUAL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BUT I GUESS CANNOT SEND THEM THRU THE CO-OPA E-MAIL ADDRESS. SORRY FOR ALL THE CONFUSION. DON WILFONG From co-opa@rellim.com Sun Nov 18 16:19:17 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:19:17 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]THE NOV. FLYOUT Message-ID: <000501c1704c$c64635c0$2124a3ce@donw> WHERE WAS EVERYBODY?????? SATURDAY MORNING ARRIVED AND THE SKIES WERE BLUE AND BEAUTIFUL. WE CHECKED THE WEATHER AND GOING TO INDEPENDENCE WAS NOT AN OPTION BUT GOING TO PASCO WAS OKAY. WE (DON AND NORMA) FLEW OUT TO BEND, FROM PILOT BUTTE AIRPORT IN OUR SKYLANE, WHERE WE WERE JOINED BY MIKE BROWNING AND DENISE PINKERTON IN MIKES MOONEY. THEN GARY AND HIS CO-PILOT "KIMMEY" SHOWED UP WITH GARY'S TURBO CENTURIAN. WE ALL WAITED UNTIL ABOUT 09:00 AND TOOK TO THE AIR. GARY HAD A LOW BATTERY AND TOOK OFF A LITTLE AFTER THE OTHER TWO PLANES BUT WAS ONLY MOMENTS BEHIND US WHEN WE LANDED. WE WENT STRAIGHT TO PENDLETON AND THEN TURNED TOWARD PASCO IN ORDER TO AVOID THE RESTRICTED AREA AROUND BOARDMAN. EVERYTHING WENT FLAWLESSLY EXCEPT THAT WHEN GARY EXTENDED THE GEAR TO LAND, HIS BATTERY WENT DEAD AND HE USED HIS HANDHELD TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE TOWER (NO PROBLEM). THE F.B.O. PUT HIS BATTERY ON THE CHARGER WHILE THEY DROVE US AROUND THE FIELD TO THE EATERY. THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO GIVE GREAT SERVICE AND EVEN CAME AND PICKED US UP WHEN WE WERE FINISHED FEEDING OUR FACES. WE MISSED BREAKFAST BUT THE FOOD WAS GOOD. WITH GARY'S BATTERY ALL CHARGED AND OKAY WE HEADED WEST ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE COLUMBIA PAST ARLINGTON AND THEN HEADED TOWARD HOME. THERE WERE CLOUDS BUT ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM.....IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL FLIGHT BOTH WAYS AND A GREAT TIME WAS HAD BY ALL. WE MISSED SEEING THE REST OF YOU.....MAYBE NEXT TIME. HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT TURKEY DAY. DON & NORMA dwnw@bendnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Nov 20 01:24:41 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Jack Kohler) Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:24:41 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]News Letter Follow up Message-ID: Good Day Everyone, This is Jack Kohler, I volunteered to help put together the CO-OPA News Letter and a membership form. I have some ideas for the news letter and would like to hear from anyone who might also have some ideas regarding the News letter. If you have any content, comments or pictures for the News Letter please send to the following email address... co-opanews@mactechsys.com I look forward to hearing from everyone and thank you for this opportunity to help, below is my contact information. Regards, Jack Kohler -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jack Kohler II Private Pilot # 2131497 Phone Wk 541.389.1493 ext. 11 Phone Hm 541.382.2433 Fax 541.382.9272 e-mail: jkohler@mactechsys.com co-opanews@mactechsys.com From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Nov 20 22:12:46 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:12:46 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]CHAPTER APPLICATION (O.P.A.) Message-ID: <001501c17210$7c9b99e0$4225a3ce@donw> HI MEMBERS: THIS SHOULD WORK TO SIGN NEW MEMBERS UNTIL A BETTER FORM IS DESIGNED. DON WILFONG CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER/OREGON PILOTS ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION APPLICANT : ________________________________________________ SPOUSE OR "CO-PILOT":______________________________________ MAILING ADDRESS: __________________________________________ CITY: ___________________ STATE: ______ ZIP:__________________ PHONE #: ___________________________________________________ E-MAIL: ____________________________________________________ SPONSOR: __________________________________________________ DO YOU OWN A PLANE (YES/NO) (mark out one) MAKE: ________________________________________ MODEL: _______________________________________ N NUMBER: ____________________________________ CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER DUES ARE $10.00 PAID ANNUALLY ON JANUARY 1, EACH YEAR STATE O. P. A. DUES ARE $20.00 PAID ANNUALLY ON THE 1st. OF THE MONTH YOU ORIGINALLY JOINED. PLEASE MAKE YOUR CHECK ($10.00) PAYABLE TO: CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER, O. P. A. MAIL YOUR CHECK AND APPLICATION TO: CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER, O. P. A. c/o GARY MILLER 109 N. W. WILMINGTON AVE. BEND, OR 97701 YOU WILL BE PLACED ON OUR MAIL & E-MAIL LISTS AND SHOULD THEN RECEIVE ALL CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING NEWS, MEETINGS AND FLYOUTS. From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Nov 21 04:02:33 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 23:02:33 EST Subject: [Co-opa]CHAPTER APPLICATION (O.P.A.) Message-ID: <15c.464d6c3.292c8159@aol.com> Thanks Don! Clay From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 22 15:50:49 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:50:49 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]THANKSGIVING Message-ID: <000f01c1736d$75d66960$ac24a3ce@donw> HELLO EVERYBODY: JUST WANTED TO SAY "HAPPY THANKSGIVING" FROM OUR HOME TO YOUR HOME. HOPE THIS DAY OF THANKS FINDS ALL OF YOU AND YOUR'S HAPPY AND HEALTHY. DON & NORMA WILFONG From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 22 19:57:16 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:57:16 EST Subject: [Co-opa]THANKSGIVING Message-ID: Great Turkey Day to all. Mike & Marcia Guth From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 22 21:53:46 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:53:46 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000801c173a0$29b9f960$6624a3ce@donw> Hope this works for everybody. Don Wilfong From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Nov 26 16:36:30 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:36:30 EST Subject: [Co-opa]News Letter Follow up Message-ID: <99.1e4b00a6.2933c98e@cs.com> Jack, does this mean that you are going to put out the newsletter for December. Please let me know. Thanks, Cheresse From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Nov 26 18:29:21 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Jack Kohler) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:29:21 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]News Letter Follow up In-Reply-To: <99.1e4b00a6.2933c98e@cs.com> Message-ID: on 11/26/01 8:36 AM, Cheressehoward@cs.com at Cheressehoward@cs.com wrote: > Jack, does this mean that you are going to put out the newsletter for > December. Please let me know. Thanks, Cheresse Good Day Cheresse, Yes, I am planning on putting together the December CO-OPA Newsletter. Although, I must admit, I don't know when previous newsletters ware sent out (day of the month) and I believe it was an email message sent to all members. My plan for the next news letter will be to incorporate graphics, text and pictures (taking advantage of Adobe's Acrobat reader). I'm not sure if everyone is familiar with this way of viewing documents but it should work for just about everyone. If you do not have Adobe Acrobat Reader it can be downloaded here http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html I will be creating a test document to send out as a trial run, if you or anyone else would like to receive it please let me know. I'll initially put something together for the newsletter and we can fine tune it from there. If you or anyone has content, text, graphic or pictures (I have received some text) for the newsletter or any additional questions please send it to myself at the following address co-opanews@mactechsys.com or jkohler@mactechsys.com (if you use this address please include "co-opa newsletter" in the subject line) I look forward to hearing from everyone, Happy Holidays... Regards, Jack Kohler -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jack Kohler II Private Pilot Phone Wk. 541.389.1493 ext. 11 Phone Hm. 541.382.2433 Fax 541.382.9272 e-mail: jkohler@mactechsys.com co-opanews@mactechsys.com From co-opa@rellim.com Tue Nov 27 01:33:01 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:33:01 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Responding to e-mails Message-ID: <002701c176e3$73e62180$0500a8c0@empnet> Dear users of the Central Oregon OPA. Please be aware that when you send mail to: co-opa@rellim.com ; it goes to all members on the list. Which is a good thing for Newsletters, events notices, flyouts, or other information which all members should be aware of. However, also be aware that if you receive an e-mail and do a direct reply, that reply also goes out to each member. Therefore, one e-mail with responses from several members will create high volumes of e-mail in everyone's "inbox". Please try to respond directly to the sender's e-mail address (senders should include their own address in the original mail in order to facilitate this process) unless the information is important and should be known by all. Our newsletter and e-mail connectivity is a great asset but if we aren't careful, we could overload the mail system and the one e-mail which we want everyone to read may get deleted with other junk mail. Thanks to everyone for their help with the newsletter, web page, e-mail service! We appreciate everyone's patience as we develop a system which is beneficial to all. Dean Cameron Reply to: dcameron@empnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Wed Nov 28 16:38:40 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:38:40 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Crescent Lake airstrip Message-ID: <000801c1782b$23353160$0500a8c0@empnet> Dear Members,=20 This is an occasion were e-mail really helps. I have two brief notices = for you. First, the Crescent Lake Ranger station is considering a small = expansion of the Crescent Lake runway from 1,710' to 2,500' (adding = almost 800' of asphalt). They are accepting public comment until = December 18th. I think this is something we should all support! It = would be great if we all could take 2-5 minutes and writing a short note = in support of the expansion. We actually have an opportunity here to = make a difference and improve our flying opportunities in Central = Oregon. In my own letter I recommended a length of 3,000'. Who knows, = enough positive feedback and it might actually happen. I would hate to = have an anti-airplane coalition or an enviromental group respond with no = letters from pilots and the idea be shelved. Crescent Lake can be a = great safety and recreation airport if we support it. Please send = letters to: Phil Cruz, District Ranger, Crescent Lake Ranger District, = PO Box 208, Crescent, OR 97733. Secondly, we will once again try to have David Hales, the new Bend city = manager, as our guest for the next meeting, December 20th. Due to = David's schedule we will start the meeting early. I would like to start = the meeting at 5:45 with David as the first item on the agenda. We will = follow that up with a great Christmas potluck at 6:30 and gift = exchange/party at 7:00. This party will be fun! I believe that a large = turnout to listen to Mr. Hales would show strong support for the airport = and aviation in general. This is our opportunity to show that we are a = large coalition which is worth listening to. If you haven't been to a = meeting, this is the one you should attend. This meeting will be open = to everyone (pilots, non-pilots, airport employees, etc.). Bring the = family and/or friends. We will have more on the meeting/party/gift = exchange in the newletter next week, but for now, please mark your = calenders and plan to attend. Thanks! dcameron@empnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Nov 29 21:39:59 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Dean Cameron) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:39:59 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Crescent Lake Message-ID: <000b01c1791e$65591040$0500a8c0@empnet> Sorry to bother all members, The e-mail which I sent out yesterday was not accurate. I received my information from the Bulletin and had not visited the Crescent Lake airport in recent history. The Bulletin reported that the project to expand the runway was proposed subject to public imput and and enviromental study. I received a e-mail for Jerry Eames of the Oregon Dept. of Aviation today. He said that they actual paved the strip this summer (now 3900 x 30 with a 300' displaced threshold). That's a substantial increase from the Bulletin's article. Jerry says that the Forest Service is now conducting the enviromental study to clear trees on each side and the ends. He says letters in support of the clearing would be appreciated. So, please still write. Sorry for the confusion. This shows that you can't always believe what the Bulletin says. I'm excited about the expansion! Dean Cameron dcameron@empnet.com From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Nov 30 18:13:24 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Collins Hemingway) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:13:24 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Crescent Lake References: <000b01c1791e$65591040$0500a8c0@empnet> Message-ID: I've been to Crescent Lake since the runway improvements (on the ground, in a car). Until they cut back the trees, I still would use it only for an emergency landing. Folks that approach and land real slow are probably OK but it still looks dicey to me. Not only do you have to fly in over trees but trees crowd right up to the runway on the sides. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Cameron" To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: [Co-opa]Crescent Lake > Sorry to bother all members, > The e-mail which I sent out yesterday was not accurate. I received my > information from the Bulletin and had not visited the Crescent Lake airport > in recent history. The Bulletin reported that the project to expand the > runway was proposed subject to public imput and and enviromental study. I > received a e-mail for Jerry Eames of the Oregon Dept. of Aviation today. He > said that they actual paved the strip this summer (now 3900 x 30 with a 300' > displaced threshold). That's a substantial increase from the Bulletin's > article. Jerry says that the Forest Service is now conducting the > enviromental study to clear trees on each side and the ends. He says > letters in support of the clearing would be appreciated. So, please still > write. Sorry for the confusion. This shows that you can't always believe > what the Bulletin says. I'm excited about the expansion! > Dean Cameron > dcameron@empnet.com > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Dec 1 22:26:30 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:26:30 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: Quote of the week Message-ID: <000401c17ab7$39ee31c0$2e24a3ce@donw> >I thought this was worthwhile. Don W. > > > "It is God's job to forgive Osama bin Laden. > It is our job to arrange a face to face meeting." > > - An American Serviceman > > From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Dec 1 22:32:39 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 14:32:39 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: CPA ATIS 4.48a Message-ID: <000e01c17ab8$15b2e020$2e24a3ce@donw> I felt this was important enough to forward. Don W ----- Original Message ----- From: Cessna Pilots Association ATIS To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: CPA ATIS 4.48a > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > CPA ATIS Vol. 4, Issue 48a Friday, November 30, 2001 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a special edition of the ATIS because we felt this information > could not wait until next week's issue. If for any reason you do not > wish to receive this newsletter, please respond to > and we will remove your e-mail > address from our mailing. > ____________________________________ > AEROSHELL RECALL. . . > Earlier today a CPA member informed us that Shell Oil had issued a > recall on certain batches Aeroshell Aviation oil in all grades. > Because we know a lot of CPA members change their oil on weekends CPA > decided to issue this special ATIS that directs you to the page on our > web site that has all the information we have received on the recall at > this time. > > You can find this information at > http://www.cessna.org/aeroshell_recall.html > > We have no information on the dates when the contaminated oil was > available, and don't expect to have that information until sometime on > Monday. > > John Frank mailto:john.frank@cessna.org > ____________________________________ > > AND NOW, A WORD FROM OUR SPONSORS... > A listing of all of our advertisers with web sites can be found on our > web site by clicking on > _______________________________________________________________________ > Copyright, 2001, Cessna Pilots Association > > > From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Nov 16 20:38:59 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (CO-OPA News Letter) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:38:59 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]News Letter Follow up In-Reply-To: <002a01c16e30$001d72a0$7025a3ce@donw> Message-ID: Good Day Everyone, This is Jack Kohler, I volunteered to help put together the CO-OPA News Letter and a membership form. I have some ideas for the news letter and would like to hear from anyone who might also have some ideas regarding the News letter. If you have any content, comments or pictures for the News Letter please send to the following email address... co-opanews@mactechsys.com I look forward to hearing from everyone and thank you for this opportunity to help, below is my contact information. Regards, Jack Kohler -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jack Kohler II Private Pilot # 2131497 Phone Wk 541.389.1493 ext. 11 Phone Hm 541.382.2433 Fax 541.382.9272 e-mail: co-opanews@mactechsys.com From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Dec 6 22:44:41 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:44:41 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: TEST Message-ID: <000501c17ea7$98919340$6725a3ce@donw> > HI EVERYBODY: > > I AM SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST TO VERIFY THAT ALL THE E-MAIL > ADDRESSES ARE OKAY. > > IF IT IS NOT RETURNED TO ME AS UNDELIVERABLE THEN I WILL KNOW IT MUST BE > OKAY. > > LATER.....DON WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com > From co-opa@rellim.com Thu Dec 6 23:13:40 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:13:40 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000501c17eab$a551e680$6725a3ce@donw> Gary......I tried a new e-mail to Ron Braatz (bravozulu185@aol.com) same old address and it has not come back yet?????????/ Will try again later. Don From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Dec 7 02:41:42 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Vern Bartley) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:41:42 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: TEST Message-ID: <01C17E85.AE18DE20.aerial@teleport.com> We got it Don, thanks for all the work on behalf of the local group................Vern -----Original Message----- From: DON & NORMA [SMTP:dwnw@bendnet.com] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:45 PM To: Co-opa@rellim.com Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: TEST > HI EVERYBODY: > > I AM SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST TO VERIFY THAT ALL THE E-MAIL > ADDRESSES ARE OKAY. > > IF IT IS NOT RETURNED TO ME AS UNDELIVERABLE THEN I WILL KNOW IT MUST BE > OKAY. > > LATER.....DON WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com > _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa@rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Dec 7 15:10:48 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:10:48 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]pocket card for "IN-FLIGHT INTERCEPT PROCEDURES" by millitary aircraft Message-ID: <000f01c17f31$5af33d60$da24a3ce@donw> HI EVERYBODY.....IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A "POCKET CARD" WITH THE PROCEDURES FOR INTERCEPTION THEN GO ON LINE AT : http://www.aopa.org/asf/intercept.pdf It took quite a while for it to come up when I did it so be patient. You can then print out the "pocket card" Don From co-opa@rellim.com Fri Dec 7 23:54:50 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Jim Harrison) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:54:50 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: TEST References: <000501c17ea7$98919340$6725a3ce@donw> Message-ID: <041401c17f7a$8fdb34d0$e6bb6f0c@yourze8cxvr8tt> Don Please take me off of your email list. Thanks. Jim Harrison ----- Original Message ----- From: "DON & NORMA" To: "Co-opa@rellim.com" Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: [Co-opa]Fw: TEST > > > > > HI EVERYBODY: > > > > I AM SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST TO VERIFY THAT ALL THE E-MAIL > > ADDRESSES ARE OKAY. > > > > IF IT IS NOT RETURNED TO ME AS UNDELIVERABLE THEN I WILL KNOW IT MUST BE > > OKAY. > > > > LATER.....DON WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Sat Dec 8 23:58:15 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:58:15 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <001801c18044$34229e60$6225a3ce@donw> DECEMBER FLY-OUT TIME COMING UP SOON..... PLEASE SEND ME AN E-MAIL AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU THINK YOU WILL OR WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE (WEATHER PERMITTING) FOR A FLY-OUT ON SAT. DEC. 22 AT AROUND 9:00 A.M. OR SO. I AM THINKING OF XMAS VALLEY, SUNRIVER OR CHILOQUIN. I NEED TO BE SURE THE RUNWAYS AND WHERE WE NEED TO WALK WILL BE CLEAR OF SNOW. I KNOW SUNRIVER IS KEPT OPEN AND THEY PROVIDE A VAN. I NEED YOUR FEED BACK TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TO PLAN ON A FLY-OUT AS IT IS SO CLOSE TO XMAS. PLEASE ANSWER (EITHER WAY) TO: dwnw@bendnet.com THE FINAL PLAN WILL BOTH BE E-MAILED BACK TO EVERYONE AND ANNOUNCED AT THE XMAS PARTY. THANKS........DON WILFONG From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Dec 10 09:11:12 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (co-opa@rellim.com) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 04:11:12 EST Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <15d.584f76f.2945d630@cs.com> Hi Don, I am in Europe until the 20th and will not be able to make it on the 22nd. Partly because I don't have an airplane yet. I have, however, found one and should close around Christmas. It is in Texas and I hope to fly it to Bend between Christmas and New Years. It is a T182RG. The N # is N756VP for your records. Thanks, Have a good trip. Jim Bowers (and Jan) From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Dec 10 13:52:02 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:52:02 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) References: <15d.584f76f.2945d630@cs.com> Message-ID: <000401c18181$d9230600$7b24a3ce@donw> HI JIM & JAN, SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE FOUND A NICE PLANE, HAVE GREAT HOLIDAYS. DON & NORMA WILFONG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [Co-opa](no subject) > Hi Don, > I am in Europe until the 20th and will not be able to make it on the 22nd. > Partly because I don't have an airplane yet. I have, however, found one and > should close around Christmas. It is in Texas and I hope to fly it to Bend > between Christmas and New Years. It is a T182RG. The N # is N756VP for your > records. > Thanks, > Have a good trip. > Jim Bowers (and Jan) > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Dec 10 15:45:56 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (Larry Klaas) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:45:56 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) In-Reply-To: <000401c18181$d9230600$7b24a3ce@donw> Message-ID: Somehow I get copied on all your emails. Would you please remove me from your list. Thanks. Larry Klaas Klaas Development, Inc. 9333 E University, Mesa, AZ 85207 Tel: 480-354-7138 Fax: 208-361-5849 Email: ldk1@mindspring.com -----Original Message----- From: co-opa-admin@rellim.com [mailto:co-opa-admin@rellim.com] On Behalf Of DON & NORMA Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 6:52 AM To: co-opa@rellim.com Subject: Re: [Co-opa](no subject) HI JIM & JAN, SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE FOUND A NICE PLANE, HAVE GREAT HOLIDAYS. DON & NORMA WILFONG ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [Co-opa](no subject) > Hi Don, > I am in Europe until the 20th and will not be able to make it on the 22nd. > Partly because I don't have an airplane yet. I have, however, found one and > should close around Christmas. It is in Texas and I hope to fly it to Bend > between Christmas and New Years. It is a T182RG. The N # is N756VP for your > records. > Thanks, > Have a good trip. > Jim Bowers (and Jan) > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa@rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa@rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From co-opa@rellim.com Mon Dec 10 18:29:17 2001 From: co-opa@rellim.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:29:17 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]TOO MANY E-MAIL PROBLEM Message-ID: <002c01c181a8$9481ade0$d424a3ce@donw> WHOA......I HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE WANTING OFF THE E-MAIL LIST. GOOD REASON WHY IS: WHEN WE HIT "REPLY" TO A MESSAGE THAT WENT OUT TO mailto:co-opa@rellim.com " IT GOES OUT TO EVERYONE ON THE LIST. THEN EACH TIME ANYONE REPLYS OVER AGAIN THAT TOO GOES OUT TO EVERYONE...WHEW THAT CREATES LOTS OF E-MAILS. THIS MEANS EVERYONE IS GETTING ALL THE MESSAGES AND REPLIES THAT ARE INTENED FOR JUST ONE PARTY. THE SOLUTION IS WE ALL NEED TO BE SURE OUR E-MAILS AND ANSWERS ARE ADDRESSED ONLY TO THE PERSON WE WISH TO RESPOND TO. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WHEN WE SEND AN E-MAIL WE PUT OUR OWN PERSONAL E-MAIL ADDRESS ON IT SO PEOPLE WILL NOT JUST HIT REPLY AND SEND IT TO EVERYONE. PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THIS AS SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE ASKED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE MAILING LIST AS THEY DO NOT WANT TO RECEIVE EVERYONES E-MAILS. I AM SURE I AM THE CAUSE OF MOST OF THE PROBLEM AS I DID NOT REALIZE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN I ASKED EVERYONE TO RESPOND TO ME REGARDING THE PROPOSED FLY-OUT THIS MONTH. IF YOU CHOOSE TO RESPOND TO ME PLEASE DO NOT JUST HIT "REPLY" (IF YOU DO EVERYONE WILL GET YOUR RESPONSE) USE dwnw@bendnet.com AND I WILL BE THE ONLY ONE TO RECEIVE IT. THANKS, DON WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com P.S. SORRY FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS I WILL DEFINITLY TRY TO DO BETTER. From Gindevans@aol.com Tue Dec 11 17:11:25 2001 From: Gindevans@aol.com (Gindevans@aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:11:25 EST Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <50.33b1580.2947983d@aol.com> Hi Don -- We will be out of town, so no flyout on the 22nd. Dale From dwnw@bendnet.com Sat Dec 22 00:29:25 2001 From: dwnw@bendnet.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:29:25 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa]FLY - OUT Message-ID: <000b01c18a7f$b676c040$b824a3ce@donw> WEATHER SHOULD BE GOOD....FLY-OUT IS STILL ON. EVERYBODY MEET -- SAT. DEC. 22, 2001, 9:00 A. M. AT THE FLIGHT SHOP. I CHECKED OUT SUNRIVER (AIRPORT OPEN) AND CHRISTMAS VALLEY (NO SNOW AT ALL). WE CAN DECIDE WHICH PEOPLE WANT TO FLY TO WHEN WE MEET IN THE MORNING (SAT) SEE YOU AT THE AIRPORT.......DON & NORMA WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com From dwnw@bendnet.com Sun Dec 23 01:25:34 2001 From: dwnw@bendnet.com (DON & NORMA) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:25:34 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa](no subject) Message-ID: <000501c18b50$b8f82800$7624a3ce@donw> DECEMBER FLY-OUT !! SAT. MORNING CAME AND THE SKY WAS BLUE (TO THE EAST) BUT A DARK AREA SEEMED TO DOMINATE THE WESTERN AND SOUTHWESTERN AREA. I (DON WILFONG) ROLLED THE PLANE OUT OF THE HANGAR ON PILOT BUTTE AIRPORT AND FLEW OUT TO BEND TO MEET ANY ADVENTUROUS FOLKS WHO WANTED TO FLY TO BREAKFAST. MIKE AND ANN BOND SHOWED UP AND EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERN FOR THE WEATHER.....GARY MILLER SHOWED UP WITH HIS BROTHER AND DUANE FRANCIS AND ONE OF HIS SONS SHOWED UP FROM PILOT BUTTE. WE ALL STOOD AROUND FOR A WHILE AND DECIDED TO FORGET FLYING AND GO TO BREAKFAST LOCALLY. DUANE AND I DECIDED TO GET OUR PLANES BACK TO PILOT BUTTE AIRPORT AND THEN DRIVE FOR BREAKFAST.......WELL......WE GOT AIRBORNE AND THE WEATHER MOVED IN WITH ONE OF THE HEAVIEST SNOW STORMS I HAVE SEEN. WE TURNED TAIL AND JUST GOT BACK TO BEND AIRPORT BEFORE THE AREA WAS BLANKETED WITH A LOT OF SNOW IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. WE WENT TO JAKE'S AND THEY WERE FULL SO ENDED UP AT JUNIPER CAFÉ. THERE WAS MIKE & ANN BOND, GARY MILLER AND DON WILFONG. WE HAD A GREAT TIME AND SOLVED MOST OF THE WORLDS PROBLEMS WHILE WE ENJOYED OUR MEALS. LATER IN THE DAY AFTER PLOWING THE PILOT BUTTE RUNWAY WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE PLANES HOME AND TUCKED INTO THEIR HANGARS. I WON'T BE AVAILABLE TO PLAN A FLY-OUT FOR JANUARY UNTIL ABOUT JAN. 12, 2002. HOPE EVERYONE HAS A REALLY MERRY XMAS AND A NEW YEAR WITH BLUE SKIES AND TAIL WINDS. DON WILFONG dwnw@bendnet.com