From ed at edendsley.com Mon Jan 14 17:08:39 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:08:39 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Program Announcement Message-ID: January CO-OPA meeting: Happy New Year!!! Plan to attend the Thursday, January 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! We will start 2008 with a video presentation on the BIG flat screen TV in the lobby courtesy of Professional Air (http://www.proairservices.com) and Butch Roberts who will also be supplying a choice of aviation videos to choose from. Start the New Year with an aviation night at the movies! Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Jan 15 01:51:20 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:51:20 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA January 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <478C8218.8060307@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the January 2008 newsletter. Gary has posted the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER Website: http://co-opa.com/ January 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 1 President's Message: Turnout was sad for our Annual Holiday party but those that did attend had a great time. We made up in camaraderie what we lacked in numbers. There were lots of wonderful sides to complement the club provided Ham followed up by great desserts. Once again our potlucks can't be beat. Our old favorite Yankee Swap was a success and there was no tail wheel spring in sight. Our bad weather streak for flyouts continued. December's alternate destination was the Black Bear Dinner for a virtual fly-out that continued the bear theme from the party. Attendance was a bit better than Thursday's and a good time was had by all. A New Year has begun so how about we all make a resolution to reserve the 3rd Thursday of the month for some quality time with the CO-OPA! Be sure to come this month with some new enthusiasm and maybe with a new guest or two. Meet for hangar talk at 6pm, pot-luck at 6:30pm and our formal program at 7pm. Calendar:: 17 January- Monthly Meeting 19 January- Monthly Flyout 21 February- Monthly Meeting 23 February- Monthly Flyout 20 March- Monthly Meeting 22 March- Monthly Flyout 17 April- Monthly Meeting 19 April- Monthly Flyout 15 May- Monthly Meeting 17 May- Monthly Flyout Web doings: For the usual chapter news and other aviation goodies check out our chapter website: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is BDN and the password is "123.0". My Inbox: There has always been confusion because the OPA has billed membership dues on the members anniversary of joining the OPA and the CO-OPA has billed all its members in January. That confusion will end in 2009 as the OPA moves to the same calendar year system that CO-OPA has been using. The side effect of the conversion will be that 2008 dues will be even more confusing that ever as the OPA works to prorate the members from the old system to the new system. Details of the conversion will be in the next PropWash. Random Thoughts: Many exciting things are happening at the state OPA level recently. Our new president Joe Smith has hit the ground running and started reinvigorating the board. Most obviously you will have noticed that you did not get a paper copy of the most recent PropWash. The PropWash is now electronically distributed from the OPA web site. Printing a paper newsletter was a great expense and hassle to the OPA. Eliminating it goes a long way to getting the state finances in balance. You can grab a copy of the most recent issue here: http://www.oregonpilot.org/archive/2008Propwash/Prop washJanFeb08.pdf There are two other options for getting the newsletter. For $15 a year you can sign up to get a paper copy snail mailed to you as before, or you can request to get a email with a link to the newsletter as soon as a new is available. For either option you can send an email to memberservices at oregonpilot.org. Expect more changes soon as a result of a board retreat held in Sunriver last December. For that event most of the OPA officers and chapter presidents met over three days to share ideas and brainstorm about what the OPA would like to do in the next two years and how to get it done. Maybe this sort of approach, in miniature, is appropriate at our level too. I propose that we as a chapter work out as a group what we want to accomplish locally, decide on some realistic things we can do and how we can do them. Just like at the state level there must be things we can do more of, less of, or just differently to better effect than before. One thing we really need to work on is getting the weather to cooperate on our fly-out days! Gary January CO-OPA meeting: Happy New Year!!! Plan to attend the Thursday, January 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! We will start 2008 with a video presentation on the BIG flat screen TV in the lobby courtesy of Professional Air: http://www.proairservices.com and Butch Roberts who will also be supplying a choice of aviation videos to choose from. Start the New Year with an aviation night at the movies! Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com COOPA Xmas Party As Gary reported, we had a great party, attended by a 'select' few. Fortunately we were able to boost attendance using the 'bear' essentials ?. The party was followed, 2 days later, by our fly- out 'drop-back', the Black Bear Diner Fly-outs (or is it FLYs-out; can never figure that out) In an effort to offset Gary's disappointment about the lack of cooperative weather for the last few months, here are some pictorial memories of past fly-outs. Don Wilfong dug into his photo archives and memories to provide the following ? MEMORIES FROM THE PAST......... Over the years we have had many enjoyable fly-outs to a lot of interesting and fun places. One of my favorites was the Flying M Ranch, northwest of McMinnville. Unfortunately, for pilots, the beautiful rustic lodge/bar/cafe was sold and we will never have the opportunity of going there again. If you were lucky enough to have been there, you will remember the "one-way" grass and gravel strip that gave one a certain pucker factor the first time you flew in. After landing and having a lot of runway still ahead of you many said "heck, that was easy, I don't know what I was nervous about". The east/west runway was located in a narrow valley with tall trees and mountains to the west. Aircraft parking was about 150 feet in front of the lodge along the north edge of the airport property. The lodge was a magnificent log structure with rustic d?cor and you could sit and watch your plane and see others come and go while you enjoyed your meal. The food was good, there was plenty of it, and the prices were not out of line. The lounge was very interesting with the bar being made from a large log cut in half lengthwise and appeared to be suspended by large logging hooks that were once used to lift logs onto rail cars and/or trucks. There was an old buggy suspended from the ceiling, which added to the old west effect of the place. As pilots, we were always unable to partake of any of the wares from the bar......so.......Norma and I rented one of their cabins one night and had a great dinner, a couple of drinks, and danced to a live western band. There was a creek running down the north side of the canyon right behind the lodge, which was situated on the north side of the runway near the west end. On the south side of the strip was the road leading into the Ranch and on the hillside was the horse facility where you could rent riding horses if you chose. As far as I know, you can still fly in and take advantage of that if you wish. We miss being able to fly there as we had made many trips ourselves in addition to the fly-outs we had from time to time. It won't be very long until fly-out weather is with us again and I would like to schedule some places the members would like to fly. If you have any suggestions on places to fly and/or any ideas on what we need to do to get more members to our meeting/potlucks please let me know. The meeting/potlucks are at the Flight Shop on the third Thursday of each month and the fly-outs are on the Saturday following. We hope to see you at both! Don Wilfong, Temp Fly-out Chair NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING (NPRM) Part 0, Section 000 (a) 1(c) Section I - No pilot or pilots, or person or persons acting on the direction or suggestion or supervision of a pilot or pilots may try, or attempt to try or make, or make attempt to try to comprehend or understand any or all, in whole or in part of the herein mentioned Aviation Regulations, except as authorized by the Administrator or an agent appointed by, or inspected by, the Administrator. Section II - If a pilot, or group of associate pilots becomes aware of, or realizes, or detects, or discovers, or finds that he or she, or they, are or have been beginning to understand the Aviation Regulations, they must immediately, within three (3) days notify, in writing, the Administrator. Section III - Upon receipt of the above-mentioned notice of impending comprehension, the Administrator shall immediately rewrite the Aviation Regulations in such a manner as to eliminate any further comprehension hazards. Section IV - The Administrator may, at his or her discretion, require the offending pilot or pilots to attend remedial instruction in Aviation Regulations until such time that the pilot is too confused to be capable of understanding anything. The 2007 Darwin Awards Yes, it's that magical time of year again when the Darwin Awards are bestowed; honoring the least evolved among us, and here is the glorious first place: When his 38-calibre revolver failed to fire at his intended victim during a hold-up in Long Beach, California, would-be robber James Elliot did something that can only inspire wonder. He peered down the barrel and tried the trigger again. This time it worked. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at myexcel.com From gem at rellim.com Fri Jan 18 17:44:04 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:44:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] January 'Fly-Out' Saturday Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Once again fate conspires against the CO-OPA monthly fly-out. Saturday's forcast is 20% chance of snow and Saturday night's is 30%, plus several of our planes are down for maintenance. Sooo... Let's all meet at Palmer's Cafe for breakfast at 9am for quality hanger flying. The cafe is at the back of Palmer's Motel at 645 NE Greenwood. That is just west of "T-Shirts 'R Us" on the south side of Greenwood around 6th street. Hope to see you all there! RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHkVXp8KZibdeR3qURAsUNAKDbteTrkRdyOHO0LEhsUnZ5LaS2egCfStTx Np68gRlDKaYW47nMQdQ3WJQ= =+weN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Tue Feb 19 13:38:20 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:38:20 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Program Announcement Message-ID: February CO-OPA meeting: Plan to attend the Thursday, February 21, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Mr. Dennis Douglas, pilot, instructor, builder, physicist, among many other talents, brings a wealth of experience to this month's presentation. Dennis is very active in the Central Oregon aviation scene and also the Oregon Legislature regarding safety issues. Dennis will speak to us about "Density Altitude" and the current state of the ethanol debacle. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Feb 20 09:56:30 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:56:30 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA February 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <47BC69CE.9030803@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the February 2008 newsletter. Gary has posted the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER February 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 2 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Many thanks to Professional Air for lending us their copy of "One Six Right: The Romance of Flying" and the use of their big screen TV. The movie tells the story of Van Nuys Airport (KVNY), its people, and its planes. The story and photography were both top quality. Our small audience was riveted to the screen for the whole show. We also need to give Don and Norma Wilfong our thanks for championing out annual Christmas fund again. Once again we have made a positive difference in a young child's life and that is what the season is about. Equal thanks go out to the many donors that helped make the dream come true. This month we'll return to a live action program. The details will follow from Ed Endsley our accomplished program chair. As always we meet for hanger talk at 6pm, our sumptuous pot-luck at 6:30pm and our formal program at 7pm. Now that we are firmly in 2008 it is time to settle up our 2008 dues. The best $10 deal in Central Oregon. Send your cash and checks to Don Wilfong. Calendar:: 21 February- Monthly Meeting 23 February- Monthly Flyout 20 March- Monthly Meeting 22 March- Monthly Flyout 17 April- Monthly Meeting 19 April- Monthly Flyout 15 May- Monthly Meeting 17 May- Monthly Flyout Web doings: The EAA is trying to collect some raw data on Avgas and Mogas usage in our airplanes. You can see a copy of their survey form on our web page. I have a count of airplanes in our chapter, but I do not know how many of our airplanes sometimes or always use Mogas in their airplanes. If you do please contact me before March 30th so I can complete the survey for our chapter. For the usual chapter news and other aviation goodies check out our chapter web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". My Inbox: The Sunriver Airport (S21) has new airport managers. Scott and Stephanie Hartung were spending so much time hanging out at the airport that nothing seemed to change when they took over at the start of the month. Brian Lansburgh, the old airport manager will not be gone for long. He will return this summer providing glider rides at the resort. Random Thoughts: Sometimes you take a risk... The sad news of two recent fatal crashes, one near Salem and one near Portland, had most every pilot discussing the many facets of aviation risks. One was a Lancair ES going to Klamath Falls and the other was a Lancair Columbia 400 going from Klamath Falls. The coincidences of these two crashes make it very easy for the layman to speculate on the causes and come to some bad conclusions. The easiest conclusion to make is that these kit airplanes are really unsafe to fly. That falls apart immediately as soon as we realize that the Lancair Columbia is a certificated airplane, not a kit like the Lancair ES. Superficially they are similar but they are really different beasts. When one digs a bit deeper, one may decide that the problem is that these two airplanes were both high performance (fast) airplanes and they were probably just a bit too much for the pilots to handle unless they have a lot of experience in the model. This is the conclusion the Bend Bulletin came to. This may have been a contributing factor but I think it largely misses the root causes. We must wait for the NTB to issue its final reports in about a year before all the facts will be public, but in these two cases enough has been made public to risk some conclusions about the probable causes. The first crash, the one in Salem (KSLE), is the easy one. The pilot left Salem on an instrument flight plan for Klamath Falls and was cleared to 13,000 feet. So far so good; digging a bit deeper it seems that there was no instrumented rated pilot on board and there were two recent pireps of icing in the area. The accident statistics for VFR pilots in IFR conditions are brutal and even proficient IFR pilots avoid icing conditions like the plague. Put the two together and any pilot knows the outcome. If the NTSB determines that these are the facts in the case then it would be hard to even call this an accident. The second crash, the one in Portland (KPDX), is a little harder. By all accounts the pilot was an experienced one, so the Bulletin theory on insufficient training would seem to fall apart. Commercial aircraft were in holding patterns waiting for the fog to lift at the airport so that they could attempt an approach. By a quirk in the FARs a single pilot aircraft under Part 91 is able to try an approach that a two person professional crew is prevented from trying. And try he did, twice. The runway visibility was hanging around 1/4 mile while the Columbia 400 needed at least 1/2 mile flight visibility to land. If the pilot was a regular flying this approach and was in top form then maybe this was not a totally unreasonable thing to attempt. IFR pilots regularly fly practice approaches to minimums, followed by missed approaches, under the hood. Still, a prudent Part 91 pilot should be very reluctant to attempt what his Part 135 brethren are prohibited from trying. So far in neither case has any specific failure of the airplanes been noted. The NTSB may prove otherwise but so far the facts in evidence would point to pilots that got a little (or a lot) ahead of their skill sets. The problem will not be found in the planes, but in the pilots. Still we are left with the correlation between accidents and high performance aircraft. Nothing really new here, each generation's fanciest airplanes have gotten the nickname 'doctor killer'. The V-tail Bonanza had that reputation but has since proven to be a safe and reliable machine when sensibly flown. I suspect the problem is that pilots expect their sports car of an airplane to be safer than their old 182 when in reality it requires at least as much proficiency as anything else they have ever flown. Their fancy hot rod emboldens them to assume more risk when in reality it does little to change the main risk factor ? which is the pilot. Gary February CO-OPA meeting: Plan to attend the Thursday, February 21, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Mr. Dennis Douglas, pilot, instructor, builder, physicist, among many other talents, brings a wealth of experience to this month's presentation. Dennis is very active in the Central Oregon aviation scene and also the Oregon Legislature regarding safety issues. Dennis will speak to us about "Density Altitude" and the current state of the ethanol debacle. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com Fly-outs In a continuing effort to offset Gary's (and I'm sure many other COOPA pilots') disappointment about the lack of cooperative weather for the last few months, here are some pictorial memories of past fly-outs. Don Wilfong dug into his photo archives and memories to provide the following ? MEMORIES FROM PAST FLYOUTS......... Over the years we have had fly-outs to a lot of different places.....but........one that came up more often than most was a flight south past Sunriver, LaPine, Gilcrest, Crescent, Beaver Marsh and beyond, down to Chiloquin. Not a good time to land at Beaver Marsh. Someone just tried landing a C-172 there in 3 feet of snow ?.. ooops). It seems like the weather allows us to fly to Chiloquin many times when we don't seem to be able to fly elsewhere. Up toward the north end of Chiloquin Airport there is a paved parking lot where you can park and walk across the highway to Melita's and have something good to eat. We have never been disappointed with the food. Just a short distance south from Melita's is a miniature railroad that you can go for a ride on. We have always talked about giving it a try but as of yet have not. Also there is a casino a few miles south and I think they will pick you up. We have not tried that as yet either; an opportunity to go there in a $100,000 plus airplane and come home on a million dollar bus. Usually either on the way back we fly over Crater Lake, it is always beautiful whether it is winter or summer. After flying over Crater Lake it is just a natural to fly north over Diamond Lake and right past Mt. Thielson and continue over the lakes along the way and back home around Bachelor or the Three Sisters. There is always the chatter between planes trying to keep track of where everyone is and marvel to one another about the beauty of it all. I have not checked to see if Chiloquin airport has been plowed or not.........we definitely need to know before we head that way again. We have our monthly potluck/meeting coming up at Pro Air on the third Thursday of each month. (We certainly appreciate their allowing us to use the facilities) This month's potluck/meeting will be on Thurs. eve. Feb. 21 with the fly-out on Sat. morning Feb. 23, plan to attend.......we have good food, good company, great hangar flying, some business and Ed usually has an interesting program or speaker. As the time gets closer I will e-mail everyone with the fly-out plan or if weather doesn't work for us an alternate plan. Blue Skies and Tail Winds ....... Don Wilfong IFLYIT One of our EAA 1345 members has started a free list server for pilots: www.iflyit.net This listserver has been designed to serve as a resource for all of us in learning about new initiatives that affect our aircraft or the systems we have in them, about problems pilots re having with their aircraft, equipment in the aircraft, or vendors that sell the stuff. Your use of this listserver is encouraged. Please pass on to your members the list server name: www.iflyit.net and ask them to log on, login, and use the net to ask questions and make statements that would be of interest to others. Dennis Douglas, EAA chapter 1345. This Piper Malibu recently developed severe vibration, 'low oil pressure and a possible oil leak' several miles out from Aspen. The pilot managed to land despite an oil-coated windshield obscuring forward visibility. He later found the entire prop had 'departed' in flight FIND RENTAL AIRCRAFT A new website helps pilots find aircraft that are available for rent and offers users the ability to search, free of charge, from a database of more than 700 businesses nationwide. Users can search using criteria such as airport or make and model of airplane. Matt Walsh, CEO, developed the website in hopes that the services it provides will help grow general aviation, and eliminate the frustration of finding aircraft to rent. Visit http://www.rentplanes.com/ to learn more. Don Wilfong's first departure from a snowy Pilot Butte International with his new medical. There really is a gap in those trees +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at myexcel.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Fri Feb 22 09:47:31 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:47:31 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] MARK YOUR CALENDAR Message-ID: <001f01c8757b$008f2ef0$6401a8c0@WilfongDon> HEY GANG...........RICHARD AND DEBBIE BENSON (CO-OPA MEMBERS) HAVE INVITED OUR GROUP TO FLY TO MONUMENT ON SAT. SEPT. 13, 08 FOR A BARBEQUE ........DETAILS WILL FOLLOW........SHOULD BE FUN.........IT IS A PAVED RUNWAY THAT IS A WAYS FROM TOWN........BUT.........RICHARD AND DEBBIE HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM.......ALSO THEY SAY THERE IS A MOTEL AVAILABLE IF ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE IT AN OVERNIGHTER....(THEY SAY THE RATES ARE VERY REASONABLE). WE HAVE NOT WORKED OUT ALL THE DETAILS AS YET BUT WANTED TO HAVE YOU MARK IT ON YOUR CALENDAR NOW SO YOU WON'T SCHEDULE SOMETHING ELSE FOR THAT DATE (SAT. SEPT. 13). (NOTE: OUR SEPT. FLY-OUT WOULD NORMALLY BE ON SEPT 20 .........SO THIS FLY-OUT IS A WEEK EARLIER THAN USUAL) NOT SURE IF THIS WILL REPLACE THE NORMAL ONE OR IF IT WILL BE IN ADDITION TO.....WILL SEE WHAT THE MEMBERS WANT TO DO.......... MORE LATER, DON WILFONG CO-OPA TEMP FLY-OUT CHAIR dwnw at bendbroadband.com 541 389-1456 From gem at rellim.com Fri Feb 22 20:14:07 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:14:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! The weather out the window looks worse than forcast, but the forcast for Saturday morning looks good. Looks like it could go either way for our Fly-out. So, let's all meet at the Bend Airport in the Flight Services Building at 8:30am and plan to make a where-to-go decision by 9am. I'll check the weather in the morning and email an update at 8am. If the weather is good we could head to John Day or Klamath Falls. If the weather does not look good then we will head to the Black Bear Diner on 3rd St. Either way it is guaranteed to be a lot of fun so I expect to see a lot of you in the morning. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHv52S8KZibdeR3qURAmkhAJ4j+YfagPvurS3n2KdHwBNsvTAoVwCg1SQU u1WVu+51yZnku17niypR150= =a81u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Sat Feb 23 08:00:45 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:00:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] This morning Fly-out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! The weather report looks better for today than it did yesterday, but the actual is looking worse. A quick look at the sky to the north-east shows that John Day is out. There is a one degree dew point spread at KBDN and KLMT, and getting worse. Looking out my window to the south I see the clouds coming in at 2,000 AGL and not going out. With Chiloquin and Beaver Marsh airports closed for snow it seems like Klamath Falls is just too far to try for with marginal conditions at both ends. So it is back to plan B. See you all at the Black Bear Dinner at 9am. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHwEMy8KZibdeR3qURAraIAJ9NTWlU36s3UqEyXuMvJu2/CiUu7wCgqjjr EODifgQz1ebIfmJ/W1FKj+Q= =QHGg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mvbond at spiritone.com Sat Feb 23 16:56:35 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:56:35 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Flyout/Breakfast Message-ID: <47C0C0C3.1040309@spiritone.com> Sorry we couldn't make it today. We had an emergency phone call from our daughter in California who had fallen and dislocated her shoulder. The phone call ended abruptly and we didn't know if she had been able to call 911. We finally tracked down a friend who drove to her home to check and then visited all 3 local hospitals to find her. The Fire Dept had taken her to Stanford Medical Center who released her this afternoon, very sore but otherwise OK, so far. This all took several hours ... Ann & Mike From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Mar 11 12:02:15 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:02:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] AVAILABILITY OF MO GAS !! Message-ID: <07F1FEE3F27D428080E2DF757D1554E4@WilfongDon> HEY GANG.......... DO YOU HAVE AN STC TO USE MO GAS IN YOUR PLANE????? I STOPPED BY BEND OIL (ON FIRST STREET JUST SOUTH OF GREENWOOD) AND ASKED THEM ABOUT THE FUTURE AVAILABILITY OF MO GAS (AUTO FUEL) WITHOUT ALCOHOL...........IN APPROX. 30 DAYS THEY WILL HAVE A NEW TANK INSTALLED AND WILL HAVE PREMIUM GAS WITHOUT ALCOHOL AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO PICK UP IN YOUR OWN CONTAINER........THIS IS FOR USE IN AIRPLANES, BOATS, SUV'S, CHAIN SAWS, GENERATORS AND/OR ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ALCOHOL MIXED IN THEIR FUEL..........THE COST WILL BE SOME HIGHER THAN THE BLENDED FUEL BUT HE WAS NOT SURE JUST HOW MUCH HIGHER.........HE SAID THEY NEED TO RECOVER THE COST OF PUTTING IN A NEW TANK, OVER TIME, AND THAT THE FUEL WILL COST THEM MORE.........SHOULD STILL BE QUITE A BIT CHEAPER THAN AV GAS......... BLUE SKIES AND TAIL WINDS........................ DON WILFONG From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Mar 11 12:08:25 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: AVAILABILITY OF MO GAS !! Message-ID: HEY........... I MEANT ATV'S NOT SUV'S..........YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE THIS FUEL IN YOUR AUTO TYPE VEHICLES....... HEY GANG.......... DO YOU HAVE AN STC TO USE MO GAS IN YOUR PLANE????? I STOPPED BY BEND OIL (ON FIRST STREET JUST SOUTH OF GREENWOOD) AND ASKED THEM ABOUT THE FUTURE AVAILABILITY OF MO GAS (AUTO FUEL) WITHOUT ALCOHOL...........IN APPROX. 30 DAYS THEY WILL HAVE A NEW TANK INSTALLED AND WILL HAVE PREMIUM GAS WITHOUT ALCOHOL AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO PICK UP IN YOUR OWN CONTAINER........THIS IS FOR USE IN AIRPLANES, BOATS, SUV'S, CHAIN SAWS, GENERATORS AND/OR ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ALCOHOL MIXED IN THEIR FUEL..........THE COST WILL BE SOME HIGHER THAN THE BLENDED FUEL BUT HE WAS NOT SURE JUST HOW MUCH HIGHER.........HE SAID THEY NEED TO RECOVER THE COST OF PUTTING IN A NEW TANK, OVER TIME, AND THAT THE FUEL WILL COST THEM MORE.........SHOULD STILL BE QUITE A BIT CHEAPER THAN AV GAS......... BLUE SKIES AND TAIL WINDS........................ DON WILFONG From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu Mar 13 16:43:25 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:43:25 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Gasoline!! Message-ID: <47D9BC1D.6010506@spiritone.com> TIPS ON PUMPING GAS I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.. Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons. Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money. One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount. Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some f the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money. DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil. These companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell...................205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil........... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway...... 117,740,000 barrels Amoco...................62,231,000 barrels Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now OVER $100 a barrel Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco..................0 barrels Conoco..................0 barrels Sinclair................0 barrels B P/Phillips............0 barrels Hess....................0 barrels ARC0....................0 barrels If you go to Sunoco.com, you will get a list of the station locations near you. All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers. It's really simple to do. Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I'm sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)...and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUND RED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would all that take? = From ed at edendsley.com Mon Mar 17 13:59:29 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:59:29 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Program Announcement Message-ID: If you're a flyer, DON'T miss this program! Plan to attend the Thursday, March 20, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Dr. Jerry Bass will give a very important presentation that is close to all of our hearts... Dr. Bass is an AME with many years of medical experience and will share with us the inside process of obtaining our flight medical certification. Dr. Bass also has a very interesting background as a Navy flyer tracking hostile submarines while flying fixed wing and helicopters over the North Atlantic. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Mar 18 23:02:33 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:02:33 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA March 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <47E0AC79.9050104@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the March 2008 newsletter. Gary has posted the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER March 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 3 President's Message: Sometimes we need to shake the rust off our memories and go over the basics. To that end, Density Altitude was the topic of our February meeting and Dennis Douglas was our guide through the topic. In short, Density Altitude is merely altitude corrected for temperature, yet from that simple premise we were off for an evening of how that really affects our airplanes performance from takeoff to landing and everywhere in between. Dennis did a great job and many thanks for his taking the time to lead us through the deceptively simple subject so eloquently. Like always we'll meet again for March on the third Thursday for what our next great program. The details will follow from Ed Endsley, our accomplished program chair. Meet for hanger talk at 6pm, our renowned pot-luck at 6:30pm and the formal program at 7pm. Calendar: 20 March- Monthly Meeting 22 March- Monthly Flyout 17 April- Monthly Meeting 19 April- Monthly Flyout 15 May- Monthly Meeting 17 May- Monthly Flyout 19 June- Monthly Meeting 21 June- Monthly Flyout and Airport Appreciation Day 17 July- Monthly Meeting 19 July- Monthly Flyout Web doings: Calendar 2008 dues are due. You can check if Don Wilfong has logged your dues in by checking our membership roster on our web site. Just visit our web site and click on 'Membership List' on the left navigation bar. $10 a year is all we ask and student pilots are free. For the usual chapter news and other aviation goodies check out our chapter web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". My Inbox: Well, not exactly my inbox, but into my paper box, word comes to us, courtesy of the Bend Bulletin, that the city is seeking $600k for a study to determine if KBDN needs a control tower. $600k? All the city needs to do is take a peek at the airport master plan, which was crafted (with much effort) to manage the airport growth over the next 20 years. That check will show no tower in sight and save them $600k and a wild goose chase. If the FAA did swallow that our little airport needs a tower, the Airport Improvement Plan would only fund a maximum $1.1M for the construction project and would not pay for tower staff salaries or operating expenses. There are a lot of worthy projects in the queue for our beloved airport ? let's not waste time (and money) on an obvious non-starter like this one. Ed Note: A Bulletin article reported Cessna had raised the tower issue but no confirmation to date. Random Thoughts: Being stuck on the ground by weather and equipment problems for much of the winter I needed a virtual flying fix. There are many ways to do that, but few have any local flavor. One good way to fly in our area, without flying, is to fire up a good flight simulator using one of our local airports as the take off point. Another way is to check out the NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS). You can get to their web site here: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/ We all know the ASRS, they are the folks that give us pilots a "get out of jail free" card if we report incidents to them within 10 days. In return for our information, which is used to improve aviation safety, we get some limited immunity, subject to certain limitations, from FAA enforcement actions for unintentionally violations. The ASRS publishes "Callback" a monthly online newsletter summarizing recent submissions. The newsletter is a quick and fun read with a serious purpose. Flying in general is so safe we can become a bit complacent. Reading the Callback is a good exercise to remind me why I have checklists and procedures. As fun as the Callback is to read, it is still a bit sterile. The reports have been anonymized. For example they talk of flying from airport XXX to airport YYY. Reading about a 757 flight may be casually engaging but it is a bit distant and abstract to me. To really personalize the ASRS data all you need to do is search their database using their online search tool. You can search by location and RDM and S07 are well represented. The good news is that BDN has no reported incidents. When you read the incident reports and they reference local landmarks and procedures the reports come alive. It is not the same as actually getting to fly but it is still an engaging experience. The best part is that it is a lot cheaper to read about sticking your prop into a runway light at RDM than to actually do it. Another way to personalize the reports is to search by your aircraft type. Incidents that happen in Decathlons are the sort of things that happen to other people, but incidents that have happened in C210s concern me enough to leave an impression. In one scary narrative a C210 pilot took off with the gear selector in the UP position. As soon as the weight came off the wheels (and the squat switches) the gear retracted. Gear retraction slowed the plane just enough to settle the airplane in ground effect and strike the prop tips before completing the take off. An expensive lesson that someone else paid for. It is said that experience is knowledge gained the hard way. Spending some time with the ASRS not only gains you some solo hanger flying but lets you gain some experience that someone else gained the hard way. So the next time the weather is bad, try some flying on the ASRS. Gary March Meeting Program If you're a flyer, DON'T miss this program! Plan to attend the Thursday, March 20, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Dr. Jerry Bass will give a very important presentation that is close to all of our hearts... Dr. Bass is an AME with many years of medical experience and will share with us the inside process of obtaining our flight medical certification. Dr. Bass also has a very interesting background as a Navy flyer tracking hostile submarines while flying fixed wing and helicopters over the North Atlantic. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! Ed Endsley COOPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com Cardinal meets tree Cross country from Colorado to the East coast; met 30knot headwinds; landed short while looking for fuel. Pilot and wife un-injured but pilot broke arm falling from tree. Here, firefighters help his wife down. The "Hump" I wonder who had the idea for the other end of RWY16 to be invisible until you actually arrive there ?. after that loooong taxi from touchdown. Sue Palmeiri, our Airport Manager, confirmed at the local EAA chapter meeting last week, the first use of money left from last year's the runway completion will be to pave 2 or 3 legal runway connectors, so maybe having to see the end of 16 will be a thing of the past ?.. the current connectors are NOT legal for exiting the runway to the west, despite residents still doing this, since they parallel the new runway, within the safety zone. Funds are needed for removal of old runway and the new noise permit extends from May through September this year with nighttime runway closure every week until the old runway is removed. The current plan is for the airport to be open from 6am to 6pm and every weekend (6am Friday through 6pm Sunday) Mike Bond ______________________________________ MEMORIES FROM PAST Last June, we had Airport Appreciation Day at the Bend Airport. Here are a few photos taken that day. You will note our leader "Gary Miller" in his classic hat doing the MC duties (he has done this each year that we have had this event). Gary has always done a great job of keeping everyone informed about everything that is going on, helping to find lost parents and keeping things running smooth??.Thanks Gary. There were lots of interesting exhibits, a food court and a lot of activity for the entertainment of all. I don't know what plans there are for doing this again this year??..but if we do........be sure and do not miss coming out, having breakfast and spending some time walking around and looking at the displays. This is a rare opportunity to see some very interesting aircraft and to visit with their crews. This event gives everyone some insight into what a tremendous contribution the Bend Airport and the payroll, from the many jobs at the businesses there, does for the community. Let's all do everything we can to support aviation, the local airport and the many Businesses that make the Bend Airport their home. Wishing You Blue Skies and Tail Winds ?.. Don Wilfong Ed Note: Don ? it's June 21st this year! Survival Tip: Starting A Fire In your survival kit, pack a couple of pads of #0000 steel wool in a waterproof plastic bag. If it becomes necessary to start a fire, use a battery (a 9V battery works great) and rub the electrical contacts over the pad of steel wool. The tiny wires will become incandescent and begin to burn. Blow gently on the glowing pad and add some dry leaves and small wooden tinder. Your fire will start quickly with minimum effort. KILROY WAS HERE! Who the heck was KILROY?? In 1946 the American Transit Association, through its radio program, "Speak to America," sponsored a nationwide contest to find the REAL Kilroy, offering a prize of a real trolley car to the person who could prove himself to be the genuine article. Almost 40 men stepped forward to make that claim, but only James Kilroy from Halifax, Massachusetts had evidence of his identity. Kilroy was a 46-year old shipyard worker during the war. He worked as a checker at the Fore River Shipyard in Quincy. His job was to go around and check on the number of rivets completed. Riveters were on piecework and got paid by the rivet. Kilroy would count a block of rivets and put a check mark in semi-waxed lumber chalk, so the rivets wouldn't be counted twice. When Kilroy went off duty, the riveters would erase the mark. Later on, an off-shift inspector would come through and count the rivets a second time, resulting in double pay for the riveters. One day Kilroy's boss called him into his office. The foreman was upset about all the wages being paid to riveters, and asked him to investigate. It was then that he realized what had been going on. The tight spaces he had to crawl in to check the rivets didn't lend themselves to lugging around a paint can and brush, so Kilroy decided to stick with the waxy chalk. He continued to put his checkmark on each job he inspected, but added KILROY WAS HERE in king-sized letters next to the check, and eventually added the sketch of the chap with the long nose peering over the fence and that became part of the Kilroy message. Once he did that, the riveters stopped trying to wipe away his marks. Ordinarily the rivets and chalk marks would have been covered up with paint. With war on, however, ships were leaving the Quincy Yard so fast that there wasn't time to paint them. As a result, Kilroy's inspection "trademark" was seen by thousands of servicemen who boarded the troopships the yard produced. His message apparently rang a bell with the servicemen, because they picked it up and spread it all over Europe and the South Pacific. Before the war's end, "Kilroy" had been here, there, and everywhere on the long haul to Berlin and Tokyo. To the unfortunate troops outbound in those ships, however, he was a complete mystery; all they knew for sure was that some jerk named Kilroy had "been there first." As a joke, U.S. servicemen began placing the graffiti wherever they landed, claiming it was already there when they arrived. Kilroy became the U.S. super-GI who had always "already been" wherever GIs went. It became a challenge to place the logo in the most unlikely places imaginable (it is said to be atop Mt. Everest, the Statue of Liberty, the underside of the Arch De Triumphe, and even scrawled in the dust on the moon.) And as the war went on, the legend grew. Underwater demolition teams routinely sneaked ashore on Japanese- held islands in the Pacific to map the terrain for the coming invasions by U.S. troops (and thus, presumably, were the first GI's there). On one occasion, however, they reported seeing enemy troops painting over the Kilroy logo! In 1945, an outhouse was built for the exclusive use of Roosevelt, Stalin, and Churchill at the Potsdam conference. The first person inside was Stalin, who emerged and asked his aide (in Russian), "Who is Kilroy?" ... To help prove his authenticity in 1946, James Kilroy brought along officials from the shipyard and some of the riveters. He won the trolley car, which he gave to his nine children as a Christmas gift and set it up as a playhouse in the Kilroy front yard in Halifax, Massachusetts. So now You Know! Airline Antics An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered his ship into the runway really hard. The airline had a policy which required the first officer to stand at the door while the Passengers exited, smile, and give them a 'Thanks for flying our airline.' He said that, in light of his bad landing, he had a hard time looking the passengers in the eye, thinking that someone would have a smart comment. Finally everyone had gotten off except for a little old lady walking with a cane. She said, 'Sir, do you mind if I ask you a question?' 'Why, no, Ma'am,' said the pilot. 'What is it?' The little old lady said, 'Did we land, or were we shot down?' COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at myexcel.com From ed at edendsley.com Fri Mar 21 09:45:31 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:45:31 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] CO-OPA Thanks!!! Message-ID: Thanks everyone, It was a great meeting with a tremendous potluck spread and the presentation by Dr. Bass was very illuminating; an AME with the inside scoop. His stories are excellent! There's never enough time... CO-OPA ROCKS, http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From gem at rellim.com Fri Mar 21 18:16:23 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-Out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! The weather looks good for Saturday and a fly-out. Since we are without out morning person, should we try for a lunch flyout at 11am instead? Either way, who would go? Maybe John Day? RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH5F3p8KZibdeR3qURAkE9AJsF6XG0zSvR0UxnIYTOarTZQyQpngCguCdi vNYfc4jGFKNSLDopGk6zRr4= =l/ZW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Mar 21 18:35:41 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-Out In-Reply-To: <20080322012328.61F674FE0F1@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> References: <20080322012328.61F674FE0F1@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, David Dressler wrote: > As you would see on a bumper sticker in Maui - "Eddy would go" John Day > sounds fun - never been there. John Day is a nice flight. The Bonds were the other likely plane to show and I suspect a later start might also be to there taster. Mike? RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH5GJy8KZibdeR3qURAueuAKDH9jvC2/ZxvuA/Bl9nqlJ3tKTt2gCgl93z oPOlM0aJ/xpdN4VdtT/2iOE= =igjP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mvbond at spiritone.com Fri Mar 21 21:17:25 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:17:25 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-Out In-Reply-To: References: <20080322012328.61F674FE0F1@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> Message-ID: <47E48855.9050708@spiritone.com> John Day for lunch sounds great to us. 11am depart or meet at Pro Air? Mike& Ann ! Gary E. Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, David Dressler wrote: > > >> As you would see on a bumper sticker in Maui - "Eddy would go" John Day >> sounds fun - never been there. >> > > John Day is a nice flight. The Bonds were the other likely plane to > show and I suspect a later start might also be to there taster. Mike? > > RGDS > GARY > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > > From gem at rellim.com Fri Mar 21 22:33:11 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-Out In-Reply-To: <47E48855.9050708@spiritone.com> References: <20080322012328.61F674FE0F1@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> <47E48855.9050708@spiritone.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! 11am depart from Pro Air it is then! RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Mike Bond wrote: > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:17:25 -0700 > From: Mike Bond > To: CO-OPA members > Subject: Re: [Co-opa] Fly-Out > > John Day for lunch sounds great to us. > 11am depart or meet at Pro Air? > > Mike& Ann > ! > Gary E. Miller wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Yo All! > > > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, David Dressler wrote: > > > > > >> As you would see on a bumper sticker in Maui - "Eddy would go" John Day > >> sounds fun - never been there. > >> > > > > John Day is a nice flight. The Bonds were the other likely plane to > > show and I suspect a later start might also be to there taster. Mike? > > > > RGDS > > GARY > > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH5Joc8KZibdeR3qURAsjXAJ43wm31HRVc4kSMenOmyiNSawRh4QCginag jJx0VFUHvn4kqgaCGbgVPa0= =w8WX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Mon Apr 14 15:44:40 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:44:40 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Airport Program Announcement Message-ID: Plan to attend the Thursday, April 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Susan Palmeri, Bend Airport Manager, will give us the State of the Airport report. We are approaching the spring and summer construction season and have many things to look forward to. If we have time, there will be a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush that is absolutely outrageous!!! Shrug off those winter lows and come enjoy an aviation evening. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From ed at edendsley.com Mon Apr 14 17:07:13 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:07:13 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR Message-ID: This just in from: Carrie Novick > Please remind everyone that the atc radar is operational and to please > use it. If you aren't IFR rated I am sure you can use if for flight > following... Thank you Carrie!!! I will... AND thanks for your perseverance in obtaining the radar... Ed > Team effort, we just have to use it.....to show them it was a worthwhile > investment. http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From daviddr at bendbroadband.com Tue Apr 15 07:11:16 2008 From: daviddr at bendbroadband.com (David Dressler) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:11:16 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080415141116.428F051B948@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> >From an "X" FAA'er I'd like to comment: I'm not sure it's worth proving a "worthwhile" investment (They won't take it away) but I have always found that most flyers don't like to "bother" FAA on either flight following, pop-ups, or filing for a string of approaches on an IFR flight plan. Believe me - I've seen several times people, dispatchers, etc. file IFR practice approaches and I've handled many pop-up requests for multiple approaches. The controller(s) will either love (these up their traffic count which equates to grade scale, etc) them or disapprove due to work load. Never feel as though you're putting them out - you pay their salary. d -----Original Message----- From: co-opa-bounces at rellim.com [mailto:co-opa-bounces at rellim.com] On Behalf Of Ed Endsley Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:07 PM To: co-opa at rellim.com Subject: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR This just in from: Carrie Novick > Please remind everyone that the atc radar is operational and to please > use it. If you aren't IFR rated I am sure you can use if for flight > following... Thank you Carrie!!! I will... AND thanks for your perseverance in obtaining the radar... Ed > Team effort, we just have to use it.....to show them it was a worthwhile > investment. http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From catacres at webformixair.com Tue Apr 15 12:26:09 2008 From: catacres at webformixair.com (Richard/Debbie Benson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:26:09 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] we'd have no job w/o you guys References: <20080415141116.428F051B948@cuda3.bendbroadband.com> Message-ID: <008401c89f2e$91251e20$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> Excellent advise David... I coincidently spent 1/2 hour in the RDM Tower yesterday & Kevin & Tim said the same thing: "we'd have no job w/o you guys"!!! All the best, Richard www.GoldenBridgeSeminars.com "And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." --- Anais Nin ----- Original Message ----- From: David Dressler To: 'Ed Endsley' ; co-opa at rellim.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR >From an "X" FAA'er I'd like to comment: I'm not sure it's worth proving a "worthwhile" investment (They won't take it away) but I have always found that most flyers don't like to "bother" FAA on either flight following, pop-ups, or filing for a string of approaches on an IFR flight plan. Believe me - I've seen several times people, dispatchers, etc. file IFR practice approaches and I've handled many pop-up requests for multiple approaches. The controller(s) will either love (these up their traffic count which equates to grade scale, etc) them or disapprove due to work load. Never feel as though you're putting them out - you pay their salary. d -----Original Message----- From: co-opa-bounces at rellim.com [mailto:co-opa-bounces at rellim.com] On Behalf Of Ed Endsley Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:07 PM To: co-opa at rellim.com Subject: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR This just in from: Carrie Novick > Please remind everyone that the atc radar is operational and to please > use it. If you aren't IFR rated I am sure you can use if for flight > following... Thank you Carrie!!! I will... AND thanks for your perseverance in obtaining the radar... Ed > Team effort, we just have to use it.....to show them it was a worthwhile > investment. http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Apr 15 18:41:51 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:41:51 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA April 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <4805595F.1090902@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the April 2008 newsletter. Gary has posted the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER April 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 4 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Wow, I had no idea what complexities were hidden in the one page form we fill out for every flight medical we take. Thanks to our March speaker, Dr. Jerry Bass, I've had my eyes opened to a lot of the complexity and thought that is in that one page form. Probably nothing is more important to a pilot than his medical and so the audience was enthralled all evening by the good doctors slide show. So much so that we did have much time to hear Dr. Bass talk much about his flying career. With luck we can have him back soon. Be sure to drop in this month to see what Ed has cooked up for this time. Just like always, we'll meet for hanger talk at 6pm, our renowned pot-luck at 6:30pm and the formal program at 7pm. Also be sure to keep 21 June open on your calendars. Butch Roberts and Professional Air will host another grand airport day for our flyout (fly-in?) enjoyment.. More details to follow. Calendar: 17 April- Monthly Meeting 19 April- Monthly Flyout 8 May- Airport Safety Meeting 15 May- Monthly Meeting 17 May- Monthly Flyout 19 June- Monthly Meeting 21 June- Monthly Flyout (KBDN) 21 June- Airport Day, 8am until 2pm 17 July- Monthly Meeting 19 July- Monthly Flyout Web doings: I just took a peek at our membership list here: http://co-opa.com/members/members.html Looks like about half the gang has not paid up for 2008 dues. At $10 a year the best deal in aviation. Students pilots are free. Contact Don Wilfong to get paid up. Afterwards check out the other goodies on our web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". My Inbox: What is sillier than applying for a federal $600k earmark to study the need for a $1.1M tower grant at KBDN? That is easy, as the Bend Bulletin informs us: it is missing the deadline for applying. Current estimates are that a tower would cost $4M to build and $400k/year to staff. Almost all of the building, and all of the yearly expense to be paid for by the City of Bend. Surely KBDN has much more pressing uses for that kind of cash. The City of Bend needs to chat up Carrie Novick to see how these things are done; the right things done right. After years of her hard work and dogged persistence we now have something we can really use, working ATC radar in our area. Reports are that the radar is all the way to the ground at KRDM and below pattern altitude at KBDN. Just contact good old Seattle Center on 128.15 and give thanks to Carrie when they say those wonderful words back to you: "Radar Contact." The ever-modest Carrie was quoted in the Bend Bulletin as saying "The only thing I can take credit for is being a nag". Maybe so, but she did that very well and that is what it took. Next time you see Carrie, give her a hearty "thanks" and a "well done" for good measure My Inbox --- continued Speaking of cash, that has always been in short supply at KBDN. One perennial problem is that while Deschutes County collects property taxes from property around the airport it is the City of Bend that sponsors and funds the airport. There is a fair solution finally in the works. The County is looking to create a special property tax district around the airport so that improvements to the airport can be funded by taxes raised at the airport. As always the devil is in the details but we can keep our fingers crossed. Random Thoughts: Is there electricity in the air? Gasoline is now at an all time high. Even adjusting for inflation. That hurts when we fill up the car, and hurts even more when we we fill up the airplane. One solution to decrease the use of gas in cars has been to use hybrid engines. Hybrid engines use a gasoline engine and an electric motor together. When a hybrid car slows down, instead of wasting the energy of braking as heat, the electric motor is used as a generator and recaptures the braking energy in the batteries. When a hybrid car accelerates some of the energy in the battery is used to give the engine a boost. This systems works well for a car, at least in the city, because a car spends much of its time accelerating and decelerating. In contrast an airplane engine is running at maximum continous power almost all the time so there is no advantage to using a hybrid engine in an airplane. As the cost of gas has gone up and up, the cost of electricity has not been rising at the same rate. So it becomes natural that we would like to substitute the latter for the former. In some cases this make a lot of sense. Boeing has an active flight test program but the details are hard to find. As some of you have seen, I have a new electric bike ?.. If we analyze the economics of that we can get some ball-park figures for an imaginary electric airplane. My e-bike travels for about 40 miles on about a $0.10 of electricity. By comparison a comparable gas bike might get 180mpg. With gas at $3 a gallon that same 40 miles would cost $0.66. That is a saving of almost 7x. If we could fly our airplanes (or drive our cars) for 1/7th of your current fuel costs we would be ecstatic! Sadly the downside of electricity is the batteries you have to use. My electric bike should get 40 miles on a full charge, whereas the gas bike might get 180 miles on a full tank. When the gas bike is out of go juice a 10 minute stop at a gas station and you are ready to go again. The electric bike needs eight hours to recharge. Who would want to convert their airplane to electricity, even with all the money you could potentially save, if you could only fly it for one quarter of its former range and with an eight-hour delay at each refueling stop? If you have been following along closely you will now mention that I have been talking about good old lead acid batteries. What about fancier batteries like nickel metal hydride or lithium ion? Those may save you 20% in weight, add 20% in range, and may even recharge in an hour or two. Still it does not look like the performance would be good enough and the price would double that of lead acid. This is why Boeing has been trying to put a hydrogen fuel cell in a test airplane instead of batteries. The idea is to use cheap electricity to make hydrogen out of water, then fuel your vehicle with it. A fuel cell in your vehicle turns the hydrogen back into electricity and uses that for power. The good news is you can refuel your craft quickly, the bad news is the range will be less than if you used batteries. Hydrogen is a gas at room temperature so it is hard to carry enough around. Even if you could carry liquid hydrogen it still takes 2.9 times the weight, and 4.2 times the volume, to carry the equivalent energy of jet fuel. If I replaced my Cessna avgas tanks with hydrogen tanks of the same weight I would get just one third the range I have now. I just do not see this as ever being practical in a small airplane; unless, of course, we just run out of gas. But wait; there is still hope for electric flying, if you are willing to adjust your idea of flying a bit: Here is a neat electric ultralight: http://www.electraflyer.com/. They claim you can get an hour or two of flight for $0.60 of electricity. That looks like fun for a cheap weekend, just stay close to your home airport. Better yet, how about an electric motor glider? The Antares 20E makes sense to me. One battery charge could net you about 3 takeoffs to 3000 feet. Once you have some altitude just kill the motor and go find some thermals. Check it out: http://www.lange-flugzeugbau.com/. Then click "English", "Products" and "Antares 20E". Gary Miller April Meeting: Program Plan to attend the Thursday, April 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6:00PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Susan Palmeri, Bend Airport Manager, will give us the State of the Airport report. We are approaching the spring and summer construction season and have many things to look forward to. If we have time, there will be a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush that is absolutely outrageous!!! Shrug off those winter lows and come enjoy an aviation evening. Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! Ed Endsley COOPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com March Fly-out. Yes ?. Mother Nature finally cooperated, providing a silky smooth day for our March 22 fly-out to John Day, Grant County Airport, which is no longer K5J0, has an AWOS and is now KGCD. Three planes, the Bond's and Dressler's Cardinal RGs and the Miller T210, made the one-hour (direct) trip each way. Dave called ahead to insure a courtesy car would be available for the ride into town by the 6 people who made the trip Due to the absence of our "Dawn" Patrol organizer (you and Norma were missed, Don), we made it a lunch fly- out. We all enjoyed a great meal at The Outpost Trading Co. and then wandered the city streets ? Unfortunately, the Museum was closed The reference to 'direct' flight above was to allow for the less-than-direct return by Gary and Dave, who with trigger-happy passengers, did some air-to-air photo- shoots: Dave's Cardinal RG, courtesy of Ed Endsley Let's hope for another cooperative weather opportunity, Mike Bond Special Notice: BEND AIRPORT AIRSPACE SAFETY MEETING Thursday, May 8, 2008 6-7:30 PM Bend Municipal Airport - 63132 Powell Butte Highway Training Room (Upstairs next to Professional Air FBO) Anyone who has flown in our airspace recently has probably noticed that it can sometimes get pretty busy. You not only have to deal with local operations, including training activities, glider operations, and jet activity, you have to worry about other aircraft passing through our airspace who may not even be on our frequency. Please join us to discuss your concerns and learn more about what we can do to make our airport and our airspace a safer place to operate in. The Redmond ATCT Manager will be here. (We are also trying to get someone from Seattle Center to attend.) Please let me know if you have any specific items you would like me to add to the agenda. Let's keep this airport as safe as it can be. Thank you. Sue Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager Editor's Note: As you can see, Ed did not restrict his activities to just aerial photography the day of the last fly-out ?? Thoroughly Electric Gary!!! President Gary Miller's new electric swift silver ship delivers about a mile per penny... I've driven it and can testify to the thoroughly terrifying task trying to turn tastefully throughout the trip... An offffiiiiccer wouldn't have believed my sobriety. What a great machine. Just a wonderful use of electrons for transportation. Gary gave me a ride on the back across the airport and that was thrilling too. I think... Terror affects my memory... Ed Endsley The Boeing 797 will be a 1000 passenger jet that could reshape the Air travel industry for the next 100 years. The radical Blended Wing design has been developed by Boeing in cooperation with the NASA Langley Research Center. The blended wing is expected to increase lift to drag ratio by an amazing 50%. The mammoth plane will have a wing span of 265 feet compared to the 747's 211 feet, and is designed to fit within the newly created terminals used for the 555 seat Airbus A380, which has a 262 feet span. High body rigidity is a key factor in blended wing aircraft, reducing turbulence and stress on the air frame which adds to efficiency, giving the 797 a tremendous 8800 nautical mile range with its 1000 passengers flying comfortably at mach 0.88 or 654 mph cruise.. Hey ? it IS the April newsletter issue ?. COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at myexcel.com From ed at edendsley.com Thu Apr 17 10:09:30 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:09:30 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] CENTRAL OREGON RADAR Message-ID: The Central Oregon radar is operating but is not operational, yet... April 24th is the date that it will be integrated into the system. Currently it is being calibrated, terrain clearance maps are being built and computer adapted with the Fossil facility. Controllers are being trained on the system and will be officially using it as of the 24th. It is an interrogator system so surely squawk. It is seeing better in some directions so separation will be held to five miles in the area northwest of Redmond and three miles otherwise. This will allow vectors to expedite traffic flow into the various Central Oregon airports. RDM tower doesn't have a display so they will be handling traffic as usual with Seattle Center acting as approach control... RDM will be receiving radar advisories within their airspace from Seattle. This new set of eyes will allow multiple approaches to occur simultaneously and greatly improve the safety of operations here in the valley that is experiencing a huge increase in traffic. These comments are my own interpretations of interviews with technical and operations personnel and are meant for your familiarization only. Get briefings, do your own research, and then enjoy this enhanced capability. Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com http://co-opa.com From gem at rellim.com Fri Apr 18 17:14:05 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out? Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! What wonderful spring weather we have been having. Too bad it is to end on our fly-out morning. Here is the latest from weather.gov: "Saturday: A 40 percent chance of snow showers, mainly after 11am. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 39. West wind between 9 and 14 mph. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible." The TAF for KRDM is broken 4,000 after 10am. So even if it looks somewhat passable Saturday morning things are just supposed to get worse. It is stay at 40% chance of snow until Sunday night, then it drops to just a 30% chance until Monday night. Let's all meet at the Flight Services Building at 8:30am, you never know, maybe there will be a miracle. We'll decide at 9am but I expect the flight plan to lead us directly to a breakfast in town. If that is the case, then how about Jakes? Been a while since we have been there. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFICTlQ8KZibdeR3qURAjGEAKC9uYDR046QzCru03sfcaNpAAIAJQCguyOm Tq+0a+qDB05sGZwfpVg81ns= =Jn+d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Mon Apr 28 15:12:36 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:12:36 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] *****SPAM***** McCall Family Fly-in Message-ID: <571C4BBF74304AB68E30A73AEEA4549D@WilfongDon> Spam detection software, running on the system "catbert.rellim.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see gem at rellim.com for details. Content preview: HEY GANG........I JUST SPOKE WITH THE IDAHO DIV. OF AERONAUTICS AND "DUE TO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS" THERE "WILL NOT" BE A FAMILY FLY-IN AT McCALL, IDAHO AGAIN THIS YEAR........I WAS HOPING THERE WOULD BE AS IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BLAST........ [...] Content analysis details: (6.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.9 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase 4.2 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. From Email at terrypickering.com Tue Apr 29 12:30:03 2008 From: Email at terrypickering.com (Terry Pickering) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Oregon Pilots' Association News Message-ID: <0F67EE2140D72E428948A19F08EFD5FD05652B@sc430.CompuGroupInc.local> For those that missed the last meeting, or can't remember what I spoke about - I wanted to share a couple of items as pilots you might be intetested in. First is the new and improved graphical calendar of aviation events OPA is maintaining now. There are hundreds of events listed with links to most of the events. Visit www.oregonpilot.org/calendar for more information. In addition, OPA is announcing two other "features". The first is called OPA-TV where you can view aviation related videos online. We're also encouraging others that might have interesting videos to submit them for us to put online. The second is a new aviation "forum" that will replace the old Yahoo Group discussion board. Both of these are explained in more detail on the OPA website (www.oregonpilot.org). If you have any questions, let me know _____________ Terry Pickering OPA Technology/Webmaster From gem at rellim.com Mon May 5 16:43:28 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Airspace Safety Meeting Reminder Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This from Susan Palmeri! Bend Airport - ?Airspace Safety Meeting Reminder Please don't forget to join us next Thursday evening, May 8th from 6 - 7:30. ?Please forward the attached to others you feel may want to join us. ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIH5ui8KZibdeR3qURAs+wAJ9Z7mXOvQRCgn6QgSbnhTiHzMtpIACeNj1C Hkix8ki1nBNYtr5t7JwUqI4= =M0KV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed May 7 18:02:49 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:02:49 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] *****SPAM***** Mount Hood Railroad - excursion trains Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "catbert.rellim.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see gem at rellim.com for details. Content preview: http://www.mthoodrr.com/excursions.htm FLY-OUT FUN FOR MAY 17......... I CALLED AND THEY SAID THE BLOSSOMS ARE BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW......SO.........LET'S GO FOR A TRAIN RIDE........ [...] Content analysis details: (6.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.9 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase 4.2 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed May 7 18:06:15 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:06:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] *****SPAM***** Western Antique Aeroplane & Automobile Museum Message-ID: Spam detection software, running on the system "catbert.rellim.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see gem at rellim.com for details. Content preview: http://www.waaamuseum.org/ HEY GANG........THIS IS THE INFO ON THE MUSEUM AT THE HOOD RIVER AIRPORT DON WILFONG [...] Content analysis details: (6.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.9 UPPERCASE_75_100 message body is 75-100% uppercase 4.2 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook The original message was not completely plain text, and may be unsafe to open with some email clients; in particular, it may contain a virus, or confirm that your address can receive spam. If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed May 7 18:14:15 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:14:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] *****SPAM***** FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: <8B33C764FAF54316B35226F94BB32FA6@WilfongDon> Spam detection software, running on the system "catbert.rellim.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see gem at rellim.com for details. Content preview: http://www.mthoodrr.com/excursions.htm FLY-OUT FUN FOR MAY 17......... I CALLED AND THEY SAID THE BLOSSOMS ARE BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW......SO.........LET'S GO FOR A TRAIN RIDE........ 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From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed May 7 20:36:05 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:36:05 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Mount Hood Railroad - excursion trains Message-ID: <367D5EF91F5C44E4BD795FF4325CB9E3@WilfongDon> I had problems sending this before..........think it will go thru now..........Don http://www.mthoodrr.com/excursions.htm FLY-OUT FUN FOR MAY 17......... I CALLED AND THEY SAID THE BLOSSOMS ARE BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW......SO.........LET'S GO FOR A TRAIN RIDE........ THE COST OF THE RIDE IS $25.00 EACH OR $23. FOR SENIORS (OVER 60)......... THE RIDE IS 2 1/2 HOURS AND ONE LEAVES THE STATION AT 10:00 A.M. AND THE OTHER AT 2:00 P.M. IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET EVERYONE THERE AND TO THE STATION BY 10:00 A.M. SO WE COULD PLAN TO TAKE THE 2:00 P.M. RIDE.......... RESERVATIONS ARE NOT NECESSARY BUT ARE DESIRED AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE RESERVATIONS YOU MIGHT NOT GET TO GO........... I AM GOING TO CHECK TO FIND OUT ABOUT RESERVATION CANCELATIONS DUE TO WEATHER AND WILL SEND AN E-MAIL WITH THAT ANSWER.........ALSO WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE GROUND TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE........ THERE IS A COURTESY CAR AT THE AIRPORT AND I NEED TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN RESERVE IT........WE MAY NEED TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE TRIP FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE TRAIN, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THE DISTANCE IS APPROX. 3 MILES.... MY THOUGHTS ARE TO MEET AT BEND FOR A DEPARTURE EARLY ENOUGH TO PLAN TO HAVE BREAKFAST OR LUNCH AT THE "TWIN PEAKS RSTRNT" ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE AIRPORT. PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL OR CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU PLAN TO GO SO I CAN CHECK WITH THEM AND IF POSSIBLE MAKE RESERVATIONS (SUBJECT TO WEATHER) FOR THOSE WILLING TO COMMIT THAT THEY ARE GOING.... DON WILFONG..........541 389-1456 P.S.: THERE IS ALSO AN ANTIQUE AIRPLANE AND AUTO MUSEUM ON THE AIRPORT AT HOOD RIVER THAT SOME MAY WISH TO GO TO INSTEAD OF THE TRAIN RIDE........... I WILL E-MAIL A FLYER ON THAT BY SEPARATE E-MAIL From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed May 7 20:38:30 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:38:30 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Western Antique Aeroplane & Automobile Museum Message-ID: Let's try this one again too........Don http://www.waaamuseum.org/ HEY GANG........THIS IS THE INFO ON THE MUSEUM AT THE HOOD RIVER AIRPORT DON WILFONG From bobcarol at bendcable.com Thu May 8 06:02:44 2008 From: bobcarol at bendcable.com (Bob Hollowell) Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 06:02:44 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Auto for OPA use in Newport Message-ID: <000a01c8b10b$ce6fa900$0200a8c0@LAPTOP1> OPA members, I have a GMC Suburban parked full time at the Newport airport. You are welcome to use when you just have to have fresh seafood or want to get away to the beach. Just give me a call or email and I will tell you where the key is hidden. Bob Hollowell Equity Group International 389-9000 Office 390-9877 Cell If your ever looking for a nice place to stay, or wondering why I have a car in Newport. www.thegumbohouse.com From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Fri May 9 17:47:24 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:47:24 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLYING FUN..TAKE A LOOK Message-ID: <59684DBBDF634B8A876B2B9DFE6F6E68@WilfongDon> ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilfong To: CO-OPA Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: Fw: CHELAN flyin 6.7.08 I thought I would pass this along to the group in case anyone mighty be interested........... Go to ChelanFlyin june 7.pdf to see a flyer on the event.......... Don Wilfong To all pilots and friends: See the flyer for the 9th annual Chelan Airport Fly-In, Pancake Breakfast, Lunch June 7, 08 Special feature will be the newly flying Boeing 40C From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Fri May 9 17:59:17 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] JUNE FLY-OUT POSSIBILITY Message-ID: <79F3734BC9FE4E3288904677E119034C@WilfongDon> HEY GANG.......... For our Fly-out in June (June 21 & 22) there will be an Airshow in Klamath Falls with the Air Force Thunderbirds performing. I thought we should plan on going down on Sat. for our regular monthly fly-out...........details later..........Don Wilfong From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Mon May 12 08:38:04 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:38:04 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLY-OUT FUN FOR MAY Message-ID: PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANY INTEREST IN THIS FLY-OUT........DON WILFONG 389-1456 OR E-MAIL ME...... www.mthoodrr.com/excursions.htm gets you info on the RR www.waaamuseum.org gets you info on the museum SEE YOU THURS. NITE AT THE POTLUCK/MEETING FLY-OUT FUN FOR MAY 17......... I CALLED AND THEY SAID THE BLOSSOMS ARE BEAUTIFUL RIGHT NOW......SO.........LET'S GO FOR A TRAIN RIDE........ THE COST OF THE RIDE IS $25.00 EACH OR $23. FOR SENIORS (OVER 60)......... THE RIDE IS 2 1/2 HOURS AND ONE LEAVES THE STATION AT 10:00 A.M. AND THE OTHER AT 2:00 P.M. IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET EVERYONE THERE AND TO THE STATION BY 10:00 A.M. SO WE COULD PLAN TO TAKE THE 2:00 P.M. RIDE.......... RESERVATIONS ARE NOT NECESSARY BUT ARE DESIRED AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE RESERVATIONS YOU MIGHT NOT GET TO GO........... I WILL CALL THEM TODAY TO FIND OUT ABOUT RESERVATION CANCELATIONS DUE TO WEATHER AND WILL SEND AN E-MAIL WITH THAT ANSWER.........ALSO WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE GROUND TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE........ THERE IS A COURTESY CAR AT THE AIRPORT AND I WILL FIND OUT IF WE CAN RESERVE IT........WE MAY NEED TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE TRIP FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE TRAIN, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, THE DISTANCE IS APPROX. 3 MILES.... MY THOUGHTS ARE TO MEET AT BEND FOR A DEPARTURE EARLY ENOUGH TO PLAN TO HAVE BREAKFAST OR LUNCH AT THE "TWIN PEAKS RSTRNT" ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE AIRPORT. PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS E-MAIL OR CALL ME AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU PLAN TO GO SO I CAN CHECK WITH THEM AND IF POSSIBLE MAKE RESERVATIONS (SUBJECT TO WEATHER) FOR THOSE WILLING TO COMMIT THAT THEY ARE GOING.... DON WILFONG..........541 389-1456 P.S.: THERE IS ALSO AN ANTIQUE AIRPLANE AND AUTO MUSEUM ON THE AIRPORT AT HOOD RIVER THAT SOME MAY WISH TO GO TO INSTEAD OF THE TRAIN RIDE........... I WILL E-MAIL A FLYER ON THAT BY SEPARATE E-MAIL _______________________________________________ From ed at edendsley.com Tue May 13 10:06:09 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:06:09 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Airport Program Announcement Message-ID: Plan to attend the Thursday, May 15, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! You are invited for a night at the movies with an aviation theme. We enjoyed last month's program with Susan Palmeri so much that we didn't have time for a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush that is absolutely outrageous!!! Now's your chance. Bring your enthusiasm for something unique in aviation! Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed May 14 02:27:41 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 02:27:41 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA May 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <482AB08D.6020508@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the May 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER May 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 5 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Summer is coming, and that means building season is upon us. Many thanks to Susan Palmeri, our own Bend Municipal Airport Manager, for dropping by and filling us in on upcoming projects. The city now has this year's $1.3M commitment to finish the parts of the new KBDN runway project left undone from last year. That means this summer we will once again have evening closures, so be sure to check you NOTAMs. Tasks will include to removing the old runway and installing the new taxi connectors, a PAPI and more. Next year we can expect funding for a new east-side taxiway and the year after that a replacement for the west-side taxiway. Way to go Susan keeping that FAA funding coming. We have been paying aviation fuel taxes for years and it is time some of it came back to our side of the hills. Susan also reminded us that the only legal ways to enter and exit 16-34 are the taxiways at each end. The openings mid-field are NOT legal taxiways and are only there to allow aircraft to taxi across the runway to/from the EPIC Aircraft and Cessna factories. Once again Ed will have a killer program for us this month. Be there or be square. There will be copious hanger flying starting at 6pm, a scrumptious pot-luck at 6:30pm and serious formalities at 7pm. Summer is coming and lots of great aviation activities will be out there in the next few months. To kick it off will be the Bend Municipal Airport Open House on 21 June. Plan on being there for all the fun. Gary Calendar: 8 May- Airport Safety Meeting 15 May- Monthly Meeting 17 May- Monthly Flyout (Hood River) 19 June- Monthly Meeting 21 June- Monthly Flyout (KBDN) 21 June- Airport Day, 8am until 2pm 17 July- Monthly Meeting 19 July- Monthly Flyout 21 August- Monthly Meeting 22-23 August - Central Oregon Airshow (Madras) 23 August- Monthly Flyout 23 August- OPA State Convention in Eugene Web doings: Just in case you missed it, the OPA has now put up a great calendar dedicated to aviation events in the NorthWest. You could attend at least one aviation event every day: http://plus.calendars.net/oregonpilots. When you forget the URL you will find that calendar, and much more on our web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". ?and when landing on the blacktop becomes boring, how about a "dingy-on-the-wing"? Yes it's real! My Inbox: The Draft Environmental Assessment for the Bend Municipal Airport east-side development is in. Things are looking good. The report does insist that the project will increase traffic on the Powell Butte Highway/Hwy 20 intersection, but maybe just not quite enough to require any serious mitigation. Worst case the project may require dedicated turn lanes at the problem intersection. With or without the east-side expansion that intersection is considered nearly overloaded and dedicated turn lanes will need to be added soon. A public meeting will be held on Wednesday, 11 June at 5:30pm to 7pm in the Barnes Hearing Room of the Deschutes County Administration Building at 1300 NW Wall Street. Plan to attend if you can and support this long overdue project. Random Thoughts: On the 8th of May our airport manager Susan Palmeri hosted an Airspace Safety Meeting at the Bend Airport. Tim, the Redmond Tower manager and two FAA personnel were also there to answer questions and offer some advice on local air traffic concerns. There were glider pilots, helicopter pilots, test pilots, air ambulance pilots, commercial pilots, pilot instructors and a solid CO-OPA contingent too. All the pilots share the same airspace, and concern for safety, but otherwise have potentially conflicting needs. Very quickly it was clear to all that since our airport has no tower that it is up to the local users to identify local problems and to work on local solutions. The FAA is willing to help, but they lack the local knowledge of local conditions to suggest specific local procedures What followed was a free ranging discussion of issues and everyone in attendance felt they learned something. Much of what we learned was what we already knew, but in the meeting we were able to associate our dusty book learning with the real world. A few recurring issues with serious safety consequences bear repeating here. Pilots making straight in approaches to the runway when others are already in the pattern are one big issue. Almost every attendee was concerned about this practice. For some operations, like Lifeguard flights, a straight in can save valuable time, but when there is any doubt about other possible traffic in the area then a standard 45 degree pattern entry is advisable. Another issue is the volatile mix of gliders, helicopters and single engine aircraft. The gliders and helicopters are much slower than the single engine aircraft and the helicopters fly at a much lower altitude than other two. The gliders and helicopters fly a right hand pattern and the single engine craft fly a left hand pattern to safely separate these types of traffic. Just be extra careful when turning base that there is no converging straight in traffic and no converging traffic coming from the opposite base leg. Especially contentious was the subject of the calm wind runway. Runway 34 is especially advantageous for safe and speedy glider operations. Runway 16 is preferred by the local test pilots to expedite their operations. Lifeguard operations prefer the nearest runway to get their patients on the ground quickly. Since the Bend Airport has traffic simultaneously in left and right hand patterns and lacks a consensus on the preferred calm wind runway it is especially important to determine the active runway before entering the pattern. Meetings like this are useful to air issues and build pilot community awareness to improve safety at the airport. The next step will be to hammer out some local procedures we can all agree to. Anything we can do to make local operations more predictable will help us all. To that end Susan will be scheduling more safety meetings in the near future. I hope to see even more participation in the future. Gary E. Miller May meeting: Program Plan to attend the Thursday, May 15, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! You are invited for a night at the movies with an aviation theme. We enjoyed last month's program with Susan Palmeri so much that we didn't have time for a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush that is absolutely outrageous!!! Now's your chance. Bring your enthusiasm for something unique in aviation! Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food and fabulous fun!!! Ed Endsley ed at edendsley.com CO-OPA Program Chair Safety Corner A few years back we had a constant contributor providing great safety hints ? I think we should restart this feature and invite all members to contribute. As we climbed out of the SF Bay Area last Sunday, heading for the Sierras, we received an alert from ATC about an American Airlines MD80 descending across and less than 2000 feet above our course ? we did not feel the vortices but here is what CAN happen ? Wake turbulence rips aircraft apart (AOPA article) =================================== Like a speedboat plying the waters of an otherwise serene lake, every aircraft in flight generates a wake. Pilots used to call the disturbance "prop wash" and attributed it to the engines. As aircraft got bigger?and the wakes grew larger and more destructive?the phenomenon was studied and the true culprit identified: counter rotating vortices trailing from the wing tips, a by-product of lift. A new term entered the air safety lexicon: wake turbulence. This invisible hazard is easy to ignore, especially for pilots who've heard the "caution, wake turbulence" drumbeat over and over without incident. But those unseen swirling curlicues are a very real threat, and disaster often strikes without warning. On June 12, 2006, while on visual approach at Kansas City International Airport in Kansas City, Mo., the pilot of a Piper Saratoga crossed below the flight path of a Boeing 737 that was landing ahead on a parallel runway. The Saratoga encountered wake turbulence so violent that it tore apart the aircraft in flight. The pilot and his passenger were killed. The pilot had departed Grand Glaize-Osage Beach Airport in Osage Beach, Mo., at 6:25 p.m. on an IFR flight plan in visual meteorological conditions. At 6:57 p.m., Kansas City Approach told the pilot to expect the ILS approach to Runway 01L. About 10 minutes later, ATC instructed him to descend and maintain 4,000 feet on a heading of 280 degrees. The pilot was informed of a Boeing 737, at 2 o'clock and 6 miles from his position, southbound turning westbound and descending from 5,500 feet. At 7:09 p.m., the Saratoga was told to turn right to a heading of 300 degrees and to expect a visual approach to Runway 01L. ATC instructed the pilot to descend and maintain 3,000 feet. Two minutes later, the pilot reported having the airport in sight. He was cleared for the visual approach to Runway 01L and instructed to contact the tower. Shortly thereafter, on the tower frequency, the pilot began a radio call that became unintelligible. The tower controller responded by clearing the aircraft to land. The pilot did not reply. Several witnesses on the ground reported hearing fluctuating engine noises and seeing pieces of debris, including a wing, falling from the sky separate from the aircraft fuselage, which spiraled to the ground with only one wing attached. The airplane's left wing and both sides of the stabilator were discovered about 2,000 feet from the main wreckage. NTSB investigators determined that the buckling of the wing and stabilator spars was consistent with substantial in-flight loading. There was no evidence of fatigue cracking, corrosion, or other preexisting damage. Radar data indicated that the Saratoga crossed the flight path of the Boeing 737 twice during the visual approach. At the point of the first crossing, the accident airplane was 1,600 feet below where the airliner had been two minutes earlier. No wake was encountered. The second time the Saratoga crossed the jet's flight path, the accident aircraft was 600 feet below where the Boeing 737 had been two minutes earlier. The Saratoga's airspeed was 183 knots?more than 50 knots above its design maneuvering speed and just 6 knots shy of its never-exceed speed. Radar contact was lost nine seconds later. The NTSB determined that the accident's probable cause was the pilot's improperly planned approach that resulted in the encounter with wake turbulence while the airplane's airspeed exceeded maneuvering speed. The encounter caused the subsequent loss of aircraft control and the in-flight separation of the left and right sides of the stabilator and the left wing. According to the Aeronautical Information Manual (AIM), once a pilot has received traffic information and instructions to follow an aircraft and has accepted a visual approach clearance, it is the pilot's responsibility to ensure safe takeoff and landing intervals and a flight path that will steer the airplane clear of potential wake turbulence. The AIM further advises that when landing behind a larger aircraft (including one on a parallel runway within 2,500 feet), a pilot should stay at or above the larger aircraft's final approach flight path, note its touchdown point, and then land beyond it. As pilots, it's critical for us to understand the mechanics of wake turbulence and know how to avoid it. If we suspect we might encounter wake turbulence?or any kind of choppy air?staying at or below design maneuvering speed is key. Hitting a roiling wake at near- maximum airspeed can only end one way?in pieces. April Fly-out. Sat. Morning on Apr. 19, I and my friend (since 1948) Fred Johnson scanned the skies, and decided a fly-out was going to work so we rolled 757 out of the hangar and flew out to Pro-Air to meet the rest of the gang?.by the time Gary, Ed, Mike & Ann arrived things had started to deteriorate and after much debate it was decided we would all meet and eat and forget the fly-out. Fred and I flew back to Pilot Butte International, put 757 to bed, picked up Norma and Wanda and drove out to the Shilo Inn to meet everyone for breakfast????the Shilo only offered a continental-type repast so we agreed to all meet down the road at the McKay House???. We had our own area, the food was very good and the hangar flying and solve the world problems sessions were great. Meeting for breakfast is not quite like having a fly-out but it is a whole lot of fun and we would like to encourage others to join us??.Maybe this month we can all board our planes and fly to somewhere fun??. Mark your calendar for May 15 for the Meeting/Potluck and for May 17 for a Fly-out??..we will pick a fun place so plan on being there?? Don Wilfong -- Temp. Fly-out Chair ______________________________________________ Airline quotes ? Flight attendant: "Your seat cushions can be used for flotation; and, in the event of an emergency water landing, please paddle to shore and take them with our compliments". Doolittle Raiders A few months ago a chapter fly-in visited Pendleton and viewed a memorial to this historic event. While we all sit around and "ooh" and "aah" over the latest aircraft that technology sets before us let us not forget what the men of Phil Compton's generation flew, and what wondrous things they did with their aircraft. These were the guys who were laying their lives on the line, in little aluminum airplanes, to save this country...SIXTY-SIX YEARS AGO! Here are some photos ? COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu May 15 23:27:23 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:27:23 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Oregon State Aviation Board Meeting Message-ID: <482D294B.5000805@spiritone.com> Oregon State Aviation Board Meeting in Bend, OR : Wednesday, 21 May 2008, 8AM - 5PM at the North Fire Station Training Facility at 63377 Jamison Street, Bend OR. Information about the meeting is here: http://www.aviation.state.or.us/Aviation/nextmeeting.shtml Information about the board is here: http://www.aviation.state.or.us/Aviation/board.shtml Local folks should realize that Nan Garnick is the owner of Butler Aircraft. Here is the agenda: http://www.aviation.state.or.us/Aviation/docs/agendas/Agenda_08_05_21.doc (It is a Word document) NOTE: AGENDA ITEM 2: CURRENT TOPICS INCLUDES SB1079 - ETHANOL. From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Fri May 16 16:43:20 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:43:20 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: HEY GANG.......TOMORROW MAY 17, 2008 IS OUR FLY-OUT DATE.......... WE ARE TO MEET AT PRO-AIR BY 0730 TO BE IN THE AIR BEFORE 0800.......DESTINATION IS HOOD RIVER WHERE A TAXI-VAN WILL BE WAITING TO TRANSPORT US TO THE TRAIN....THE VAN WILL BE THERE BY 0845 AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO MAKE TWO TRIPS TO THE RR STATION....THE RR PEOPLE WOULD LIKE US TO BE AT THE TRAIN BY 0930 FOR A 1000 DEPARTURE.. WE PLAN TO EAT SOMETHING BEFORE WE GO TO BEND TO FLY OUT........ THE NORMAL TRAIN RIDE IS 2 1/2 HOURS......BUT.........TOMORROW THEY ARE HAVING A SPECIAL SURPRISE EVENT AND IT WILL BE 3 HOURS.........THIS SHOULD PUT US BACK AT THE STATION BY APPROX. 1300 HRS AT WHICH TIME WE CAN PLAN TO GO EAT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO........... RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 3 PLANES COMMITTED AND A TOTAL OF 9 OR 11 PEOPLE........ IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US.......SHOW UP AT BEND BY 0730 OR AT HOOD RIVER BEFORE 0900..... DON WILFONG..........389-1456 From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Thu May 29 08:13:30 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:13:30 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] AirNav: Fuel prices near Bend Municipal Airport Message-ID: <313DC29615D24225AAC489500C9E96B1@WilfongDon> CLICK BELOW FOR AV GAS PRICES NOT SURE IF IS CURRENT.........BUT...........LATEST INFO........ ALSO YOU CAN BUY PREMIUM WITHOUT ETHANOL AT THE SHELL STATION (RED CARPET CAR WASH) NORTH.......THEY ARE BRINGING IT IN FROM WASHINGTON STATE.........DON WILFONG http://www.airnav.com/fuel/local-avweb?s=KBDN&submit=Go From catacres at webformixair.com Mon Jun 2 18:27:59 2008 From: catacres at webformixair.com (Richard/Debbie Benson) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Looking for GPS & Tug... Message-ID: <000801c8c519$0f345000$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> Greetings Fellow pilots, I'm just starting to do my homework these two items: a.. 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If you wish to view it, it may be safer to save it to a file and open it with an editor. From ed at edendsley.com Tue Jun 17 10:19:56 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation Program Announcement Message-ID: Plan to attend the Thursday, June 19, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! You are invited for a night at the movies with an aviation theme. We enjoyed last month's socializing so much that we didn't have time for a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush. It's absolutely outrageous!!! Now's your chance. Bring your enthusiasm for something unique in aviation! Thanks to Butch Roberts and Professional Air for their support of CO-OPA and the use of their beautiful big screen TV. http://proairservices.com Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Jun 18 01:34:47 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:34:47 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA June 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <4858C8A7.7070300@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the June 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER May 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 5 Website: http://co-opa.com/ June 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 6 President's Message: The gremlins conspired against us, again, last month. The DVD player just could not handle Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush so that will have to wait another month or two. Now that flying weather has returned there was so much discussion that we would not have had time to watch it all anyway. This month we will undoubtedly have more great aero- talk and likely a great program too. Plan to attend and get in on the fun. Expect outrageous chitchat starting at 6pm, our ever-popular potluck at 6:30pm and informal formalities at 7pm. Also this month instead of a Flyout we have a Fly-in. This Saturday from 8am until 2pm, come on out to the Bend Municipal Airport for another great Airport Day. Any day at the airport is a great day and this should be better than most! Calendar: 19 June- Monthly Meeting 21 June- Monthly Flyin (KBDN Aviation Day) 21 June- Airport Day, 8am until 2pm 17 July- Monthly Meeting 19 July- Monthly Flyout 21 August- Monthly Meeting 22-23 August - Central Oregon Airshow (Madras) 23 August- Monthly Flyout 23 August- OPA State Convention in Eugene 13 September - Barbecue @ Monument 18 September - Monthly Meeting 20 September - Monthly Flyout Web doings: What has time for the web now? It is flying season in Central Oregon! But if you must, you can see our newsletters, useful aviation links, and more on our web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". Random Thoughts: $6.22/gallon for 100LL at KHWD (Hayward, CA). That sure wakes you up. If you really want a shock then check airnav.com for a few more prices. I see $7.80 at KLAS (Las Vegas International). Both make the $5.09 self serve at KBDN seem like a good deal. Yes avgas is high, but relative to auto-gas that is not so high. The average auto-gas near Hayward was $4.50. For that extra $1.72 a gallon I had paid for the right to fly at 150mph instead of 55mph. Except for the 45mph headwind, which meant I was only going twice as fast as a car. How exactly does a trip from KBDN to KHWD compare by airplane to car? By airplane the trip (no headwind) should be 447 miles, 40 gallons ($249) of avgas and 3 hours. That works out to about 11.2 mpg. By car maps.google.com tells me the trip is 500 miles and 8.5 hours. At 19mpg, that works out to about 26 gallons ($118). In essence I bought 5.5 hours of time for just under $24/hr. Since this was a business trip that was a good trade off, but it still stings a bit. This caused me to check out some fuel saving strategies and dive into the cruise performance for my plane. No way my plane will ever perform what the book says again, but it is not too far off. Here are the book numbers for cruise performance from KBDN to KHWD (ignoring climb and descent): 10,000 feet hp% mpg gallons duration 75% 11.8 38.0 2.3 66% 12.8 34.8 2.4 58% 13.6 32.8 2.5 51% 14.5 30.9 2.7 43% 15.3 29.3 3.0 15,000 feet hp% mpg gallons duration 75% 12.5 36.0 2.2 64% 13.6 32.8 2.3 58% 14.5 30.8 2.4 51% 15.3 29.2 2.5 44% 16.2 27.5 2.7 Looking at the numbers, I save about 2 gallons cruising at 15,000 feet instead of 10,000. That seems good at first, but it costs me an additional 2 gallons to climb the additional 5,000 feet since climb is at full rich. So it is best to pick an altitude for the winds and not so much the fuel economy. I rarely cruise at 75% because it is hard on my TSIO- 520. Dropping to 65% power saves my engine, saves 8.5% in fuel and only costs me 4.3% extra in time. To KHWD that is a savings of $20 for an extra 6 minutes travel time. Dropping to 51% power would save me an additional 11.2% in fuel and only cost me 12.5% extra time. That saves another $24 for an extra 18 minutes. I get to log more hours and yet use less gas. If gas goes up much more, and I have not won the lottery yet, expect me to slow way down. Let's all hope that big oil gives us a break soon. . Gary As 100LL gets more and more expensive- -- here are a couple of LSA's that sip less and you don't require a medical, to boot ? ------------------------------- American Legend Aircraft Company Offers Tundra Tire Option For Its Legend Cub American Legend Aircraft Company is offering a 26- inch Alaskan Bushwheel?, or tundra tire, option for its Legend Cub certified light-sport aircraft. The Legend Cub is a certified light-sport aircraft similar in appearance to the Piper J-3 and PA-11 Cubs. The Alaskan Bushwheel 26-inch tire was recently certified and is now available on the Legend Cub as Airstreak?, the wheel measures 26" x 12" x 6" and is modeled after the standard Alaskan Bushwheel, but has a lighter finished weight for LSA aircraft and have been tested and approved to a load rating of 850 lbs. per tire (1700 lbs. total on the Legend Cub), well-suited to the Legend Cub's max. gross weight of 1320 lbs. Offered as an upgrade from the Legend Cub's standard 6.00 x 6" tires, the 26-inch Airstreak tundra tires cost $2,195.00. Bushwheels are handcrafted onto airbags, have a sidewall valve-stem, and fit standard 6.00 x 6" wheels. Air pressure can be lowered for rough-ground usage and can be used off-field, or on turf and paved runways. They provide increased ground and propeller clearance, and provide maximum shock absorption for the landing gear and fuselage. Alaskan Bushwheels are FAA TSO C62d approved, and the 26-inch Airstreak is ASTM certified for use on the Legend Cub. Numerous enhancements, in addition to tundra tires, include a choice of 100-horsepower Continental or 120- horsepower Jabiru piston engines, an electric starter, and modern instrumentation. The Legend Cub, Legend FloatCub, Legend Combat, and Legend Cub Special are all FAA-certified aircraft for sport, recreation, and training. With the addition of Airstreak tires, the Legend Cub now provides four ways to touch down: land or tundra, sea or ski. For further information, contact American Legend Aircraft Company at 1810 Piper Lane, Sulphur Springs, Texas 75482; call 903-885-7000. ICON A5 Amphibian Special-Light Sport Aircraft (S-LSA) SPECIFICATIONS - Seats: 2 - Maximum Weight: 1430 lbs - Useful Load: 430 lbs (minimum) - Baggage: 60 lbs (maximum) - Fuel (Auto Gas or Av Gas): 20 gal. - Maximum Speed (Vh): 105 kts (120 mph) - Range: 300 nm - Takeoff & Landing Distance: 750 ft - Rear mounted, 100-hp Rotax 912 ULS Engine DIMENSIONS - Interior Cockpit Width: 46 in - Wing Span: 34 ft - Aircraft Length: 22 ft - Trailered Width: 8.5 ft - Trailered Length: 28 ft DESIGN FEATURES - Amphibious design (flies off land or water) - Seawings platforms for easy access and docking - Retractable Landing Gear (on ICON A5 Amphibian) - Folding wings (manual or automatic) - Custom aircraft towing trailer (optional) - Headlights and flood lights - Complete Airplane Parachute, ICAP - Patent-pending Propeller Guard - Wing Angle of Attack Indicator (AoA) BASE PRICE (A5 Amphibian): $139,000 USD June 19th meeting Plan to attend the Thursday, June 19, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! You are invited for a night at the movies with an aviation theme. We enjoyed last month's socializing so much that we didn't have time for a video of Super Cubs flying in the Alaskan bush. It's absolutely outrageous!!! Now's your chance. Bring your enthusiasm for something unique in aviation! Thanks to Butch Roberts and Professional Air for their support of CO-OPA and the use of their beautiful big screen TV. http://proairservices.com Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com/ Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com Only one... (you just gota see th picture in the PDf version!) For the last company picnic, management had decided we could have alcohol. But due to liability issues, we could only have one drink per person. ?.. I was fired for ordering the cups ?... MAY FLY-OUT: The Hood River Train was scheduled to make two trips up the Hood River Valley that day with one leaving Hood River at 10:00 A.M. and one leaving at 2:00 P.M. each for a 3 hour trip. (Normally 2.5 hrs. but they had the great train robbery that day so it extended the trips by ? hour). We decided to get out early (The Don Patrol) and catch the early train so we departed Pro-Air at 7:45 A.M. to give us time to get a ride down town to the depot, get our tickets and be ready to board the train for a 10:00 A.M. departure. Arnie and Carol Veterick left Prineville in their Bonanza, Don & Norma and their friends Lyle and Rosalie Nelson were in the Wilfong's Skylane and Gary Miller, Ed Endsley and Harry McFadden were in Gary's Turbo 210 (they had a small delay getting in the air due to a low battery). We all arrived in time to catch the taxi/van for the ride down to the train. It was a 7-passenger van and we had 9 people so Gary sat on the floor and Ed sat crossways behind the back seat in very cramped quarters ??but ?? we managed to fit in. The van must have had water in the fuel as we were not sure it was going to make it without walking but it did keep running and got us there. When we purchased our tickets they gave everyone a bunch of play money so we would have money to give the robbers during the train robbery. We finally pulled out of the station and headed up the valley along side of the river and then up through the orchards to the town of Odell where the train stopped for about an hour while we looked the town over and some of us took part in a barbeque lunch they had set up for us with a bbq sandwich, baked beans, salad and a drink for $10.00. The train used to go on to Parkdale but the track had washed out and that was no longer possible. The scenery was great with a view of Mt. Hood shining in the sun as a backdrop to the other views from the train. One car was open, with a roof but the sides were open with no glass. This was great as the day was warm and it made for a very pleasant ride with the breeze in your face and a wide-open view of everything. On the way back Ed managed to get a ride in the Engine and got to drive the train. We stayed on the tracks so he must have done a good job. It was on the trip back that the "Robbers" came thru the cars with their guns drawn and robbed all of us of all of the money we had (the play money). When the train got almost back to Hood River the Sheriff's Posse showed up, stopped the train and amid gunfire managed to arrest all of the robbers. It was a hot day, one of our party said it was 103 in down town Hood River. We walked up town (about a block) to a luxury old hotel where the girls decided to stay put in the air conditioning and the comfortable chairs while a bunch of us walked up the street about 4 blocks and got an ice cream cone. We walked back to the hotel, called the cab, went back to the airport and headed home to end a perfect day. The weather has not been very helpful in putting together fly-outs but this day it was great. Now that summer is about here we should be having better weather for the scheduled fly-outs. In June we will be having the Airport Appreciation Day on our regular fly-out day so we might pick a different day to have a fly-out??..watch for e-mails to keep you informed of any plans. Don Wilfong, temp Fly-Out Chair. Air & Auto Museum at Hood River Airport As Don had suggested, a future flyout , might be to return to Hood River to visit the museum which, has over 50 pristine, mostly flyable antique aircraft and many jeeps and automobiles. The photos below wer taken during a recent flyout by the Prineville EAA chapter The cost is reasonable ($6 for seniors) and is open 7 days a week from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sample planes are 1917 Curtiss JN4D Jenny, 1937 Aeronca LC, 1928 American Eagle and 1931 Curtiss Wright 12-W. Cars include a 1914 Ford ModelTDepot Hack, model A's, Dodge, Mercury & Studebakers. Web site: http://www.waaamuseum.org/ ATC, with a difference ? A friend was flying around Camarillo (KCMA) several years back.... Magu Approach, a Navy Air Base, was talking to a Southern gentleman one late afternoon when the female Navy controller was talking as fast as she could to a few local Navy Fighter jocks. When he checked in IFR in VMC conditions that day, she spit him out some instructions so fast that they had no idea at all what she was saying, and my friend gives instrument instruction in that area all the time. She seemed to take pride in how fast she could talk. Well this ol' boy stopped to think about things for a bit, then responded to her: "Maaaam, you heeear how ah taaalk?" She replied: "Yes, go ahead." He said next: "Weeelll thaaats how ah listen tooo. You can saaay all thaaat agaain like ya'll just did, about 15 mooore times, or once, reeeeal slow." She gave his instructions at an understandable speed after that. Everyone on freq was laughing so hard we could hardly fly. COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com ============================ Ed Note: Oh, yes ?. If you were wondering about the photo on page 1, It was taken by an RV pilot at 1000' AGL, just north of the Deschutes County Landfill on May 1st of this year ? some dust devil ? or maybe it was methane?? From gem at rellim.com Mon Jun 30 18:40:29 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] N7XZ Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Z21 is reporting that Cessna Skylane RGII with tail number N7XZ crashed on Highway 20 near Dodge Rd. The female pilot had minor injuries and was taken to St. Charles. No names released yet. The plane looks like it landed gear up. N7XZ is registered to Spirit Flight in Redmond. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIaYsP8KZibdeR3qURAm7fAJwJeRI+BJkO0AdS5oaH1q9DQ+by8ACfTRp3 Y8nJp8xRKpzMBamNeMz5l8E= =h9n2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Mon Jun 30 23:23:00 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] N7XZ (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from Ken Sandine. Z21 says the aircraft was under contract at the time to the USFS for fire spotting. I just rechecked the FAA records and the craft is registered as a 182 RG. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:06:25 -0700 From: Ken Sandine To: Gary E. Miller Subject: RE: [Co-opa] N7XZ Gary, the aircraft flew over me while I was weeding.? It was either low power or no power.? I thought it was setting up for landing at Juniper. I went back to weeding.? Later I heard emergency vehicles, and to make a long story shorter, I drove down to investigate and was rather rudely told to stay away by a deputy.? He said I was encroaching upon a possible crime scene.? That got my dander up because a pilot trying to deal with an inflight emergency is not a criminal.? I've talked to the sheriff's department 3 times, the FAA who, while I was on hold, was in contact with the NTSB, who gave the "go" to clear the airplane at 8:20 pm.? It is now 11 pm and the emergency vehicles are still blocking traffic.? Chad of the sheriff's dept just called and told me that the US Forest Service is in charge and that they made the decision to defuel before moving the aircraft for safety considerations (name of person in charge:? Dan Smith, US Forest Service).? In the meanwhile, US 20 remains blocked at 11pm.? I'll be contacting Dan Smith tomorrow to assess his lack of competence.? There is definitely a lack of horse sense in this case.? The aircraft was a 182 with the gear firmly fixed and?appeared to be easily moveable, even if it was with a chain on my Jeep. Ken?Sandine? ________________________________________________________________________________ > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:40:29 -0700 > From: gem at rellim.com > To: co-opa at rellim.com > Subject: [Co-opa] N7XZ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > Z21 is reporting that Cessna Skylane RGII with tail number N7XZ crashed > on Highway 20 near Dodge Rd. The female pilot had minor injuries and > was taken to St. Charles. No names released yet. The plane looks like > it landed gear up. > > N7XZ is registered to Spirit Flight in Redmond. > > RGDS > GARY > - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIaYsP8KZibdeR3qURAm7fAJwJeRI+BJkO0AdS5oaH1q9DQ+by8ACfTRp3 > Y8nJp8xRKpzMBamNeMz5l8E= > =h9n2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa ________________________________________________________________________________ The i?m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.? For now, give amongst yourselves. Learn More -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIac1H8KZibdeR3qURAqC9AJ9dxgPDZHwrwbPwGTuDvSzomasTpwCePYJC ejMoWsAS0oVNlcjNOKtNyT0= =5zvb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Jul 1 11:56:07 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:56:07 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation / Weather Assistance for Record Attempt Message-ID: <486A7DC7.3050103@spiritone.com> Hello Aviators, A friend of mine is managing the logistics for Kent Couch's record attempt planned for this Saturday, July 5^th , 2008. If you are not familiar with Kent Couch, he's the gentleman that flew 193 miles in his "lawn chair balloon" from Bend, Oregon to eastern Oregon last year. He's recently been featured on Good Morning America and Jay Leno. You can find out more at www.couchballoons.com . The logistics team is looking for help and asked me to put out a plea to aviation enthusiasts. If you are interested in helping or know someone that might be, please contact me ASAP. *Live Weather Guidance* Their biggest need is to find someone who can provide weather support and guidance before and during the flight. Kent and his ground crews will be carrying satellite phones and SPOT satellite GPS transmitters during the adventure. They will be calling their operations center for help identifying the optimum altitudes for wind direction and speed. They also want help monitoring weather hazards. The weather consultant can operate from any location with internet access. They don't have to come to Bend, OR to help out. Kent's position and altitude will be available real-time on the internet through live GPS tracking. You can follow his position on Google Maps. *Air Support* There is also a need for close air support if anyone might be interested in flying along with Kent. This would likely involve flying from Bend to the Boise area and back. The specifics need to be worked out, but the likely scenario would be to stay close to Ken as he climbs and settles in, then scout ahead, land and wait a while. As needed, takeoff and join up with Ken, provide any assistance, scouting, filming/photo, and then land again. This would continue throughout the flight. There will be quite a bit of air support as Kent leaves Bend, but no one has offered to help throughout the flight. A Satellite phone will be loaned to the air support crew for communicating with Kent and the ground crews. *Portable XM Weather Equipment* Kent currently does not have a GPS that provides XM weather data and would like to borrow one. If you know someone willing to loan one out for the adventure, let me know. If anything were to happen to the borrowed equipment, it would be replaced. *Other Help* There are many other ways you can participate, including helping with the preparation of the vehicle for flight the night before. If you would like to help in any way, let me know. All the best from Bend, Oregon, Steve Minar 650-848-0652 Cell SteveMinar at gmail.com From gem at rellim.com Tue Jul 1 18:41:34 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Crash Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! According to Z21 the pilot of the Skylane RG II that landed on Dodd Road yesterday was Mary Schu Dominisk, owner of Wings of the Cascades. She experienced a major oil loss putting oil on the cowling and decided to put it down ASAP. The result was some injuries including broken ribs but she will be fine. The pictures look like the gear collapsed and the right wing is bent 30 degrees at the wing root. The prop is bent back funny so the prop was not developing any power. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIatzQ8KZibdeR3qURAq+BAJ47DLFZlfj6OwHWl+/PJswIHzspJACgnu+2 oeFnU8nLGZgpprsrpHC32/8= =Zf1W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Jul 2 16:00:46 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation / Weather Assistance for Record Attempt In-Reply-To: References: <486A7DC7.3050103@spiritone.com> Message-ID: <486C089E.40101@spiritone.com> Hi Ken., Kent Couch's website (http://www.couchballoons.com/2008flight/default.aspx) says 06:00 (am) Suggest to contact the guy who originated the email, Steve Minar, or recheck Kent's website for any change in plans. Mike Kenneth Dunn wrote: > Mike- what time is he launching? I have a flight scheduled from > 0900-1100, if I can get the airplane I MAY be able to go all the wy to > Boise, weather permitting. I need to check with Pro Air. My cell phone > is below. > > Ken > > KENNETH R. DUNN > Commercial Pilot, ASEL > A & P Mechanic > Cell # 541-610-9332 > > > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:56:07 -0700 > > From: mvbond at spiritone.com > > To: co-opa at rellim.com > > Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation / Weather Assistance for Record Attempt > > > > Hello Aviators, > > > All the best from Bend, Oregon, > > > Steve Minar > > > > 650-848-0652 Cell > > > SteveMinar at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Co-opa mailing list > > From gem at rellim.com Thu Jul 3 15:12:31 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport 2009 Pre-construction Meeting (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from the city. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 2009 RUNWAY PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR TENANTS OF THE BEND MUNICIPAL AIRPORT Please join us on Wednesday July 9, 2008 at 3:00 pm to discuss upcoming nighttime airport construction that is scheduled to begin on Sunday evening, July 13th AGENDA: Overview and schedule of remaining work & Q & A Meeting will be held at the Bend Municipal Airport - 63138 Powell Butte Hwy. (Upstairs in hangar north of Professional Air) Communication or other accommodations for people with disabilities will be made upon advance request. Please contact Sue Palmeri, Bend Airport Manager at (541) 389-0258. Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIbU7S8KZibdeR3qURAjV7AJ9cywLpcL1zWXaxEy5TTOJ81zrZJACeOSsB JArMwf8HjOQf84HKoXvc6RU= =KtDo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Wed Jul 9 09:52:54 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Important information for Bend Airport (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Whoops, looks like Jeppeson messed up on this one: URBIA APPROACH TRANSITION FOR RNAV (GPS) Y RWY 16 [R16Y] PROCEDURE DO not use that until the next Jepp approach plates come out. See attached. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:37:59 -0700 From: Terri Shepherd To: Susan Palmeri Subject: Fw: Important information for Bend Airport Please take a minute to review information attached. ?Thank you, Sue ? ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdOzp8KZibdeR3qURAqAhAJ93qgOZjbCLFfiF01Uh8fyz0aDOmgCgyc7B lCo5nBqAysZQIIj/nqjs8fY= =hOb+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Wed Jul 9 13:05:24 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:05:24 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Important information for Bend Airport (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Gary. I received the same notice from the city. I am not sure if the Bendix/King database in my GPS has the same error, but I did not receive any notice from Bendix/King. Fortunately, now that we have the RNAV Z approach for runway 16, the RNAV Y approach is not necessary and, frankly, not as good an approach anyway, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary E. Miller" Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008 9:52 am Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Important information for Bend Airport (fwd) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > Whoops, looks like Jeppeson messed up on this one: > > URBIA APPROACH TRANSITION FOR RNAV (GPS) Y RWY 16 [R16Y] PROCEDURE > > DO not use that until the next Jepp approach plates come out. > > See attached. > > > RGDS > GARY > - ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > > - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:37:59 -0700 > From: Terri Shepherd > To: Susan Palmeri > Subject: Fw: Important information for Bend Airport > > > > Please take a minute to review information attached. ?Thank you, > Sue ? > > ? > > > Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. > Bend Airport Manager > PO Box 431 > Bend, OR ?97709 > (541) 389-0258 ph > (541) 385-6676 fax > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFIdOzp8KZibdeR3qURAqAhAJ93qgOZjbCLFfiF01Uh8fyz0aDOmgCgyc7B > lCo5nBqAysZQIIj/nqjs8fY= > =hOb+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From gem at rellim.com Thu Jul 10 07:55:59 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN Construction Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! There was a meeting Wednesday about the construction at Bend Municipal Airport today hosted by Sue Palmeri our airport manager. Representatives from Knife River and the engineering firm were there. There have been crews working from the North end to the South end doing crack sealing and other maintenance on the ramp and taxiways. That work will continue Monday to Saturday from 8am to 5pm until 18 July. You can contact the workers on 123.0 if you need help getting past their work areas. Be alert for FOD and expect up to 15 minute delays at some times. Starting this Sunday (13 July) removal of the old runway and the temporary taxiways will commence. Until about mid October the entire airport will be closed to ALL operations from 6pm to 6am Sunday to Thursday. Additional closures may be required on a two or three day notice by NOTAM. Closures will also be posted on the city airport web site (bendairport.org). There will be a County Sheriff on duty during the closures and he will have orders to arrest any violators so pay attention! The first part of the project will be to remove the temporary taxiways in the middle of 16-34. The only way to enter or exit the runway from the west side will be the two taxiways at the far ends of the runway. Those are designated A1 and A6. Sometime around the end of August the four new mid field runway exits (A2 to A5) should open up. So be extra alert for aircraft doing a back taxi on the runway until then. No money yet for new REIL or PAPI lights, fingers crossed that we get the money in time to install those this year. Just like last year expect schedules to change with little notice and expect lots of confusion. So check your NOTAMS, check the airport web page. All construction crews will be monitoring the CTAF (123.0) so if you have any doubt at all call them. The crews have a job to do, giving us a beautiful brand new runway environment, so let's keep out of their way and let them finish as fast and safely as possible. Next year we get to do this again as we should be getting a new east side taxiway (taxiway B). RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIdiME8KZibdeR3qURAsbgAKDMeEmD+HAM20l+Cok7YqFQf0wN1gCeJrSI hgQbScWhyypq6pkjSr4wfTE= =NK67 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Tue Jul 15 13:07:54 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:07:54 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation Program Announcement Message-ID: Plan to attend the Thursday, July 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Our special guests this month will be from Epic Air and they will be presenting information about their unique cutting edge technology that allows unprecedented performance. Their advanced use of carbon fiber techniques much like the Boeing 787 heralds a new age in general aviation. Economical single engine turbine, six people, three hundred forty knots at 31,000 feet, and over 1800NM range with a full payload. http://www.epicaircraft.com Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Jul 15 17:31:28 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:31:28 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA July 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <487D4160.7080408@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the July 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER July 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 7 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: The planets all aligned properly last month so we finally were able to view the DVD of Super Cubs flying in Alaska. Now we know what those fat tires are for. Not simply for landing on soft ground but also for water skiing to your postage stamp sized tie down. Simply amazing. Also last month we had a nicely successful Airport Day. Bad weather in the valley and a maintenance issue prevented some planned aircraft from arriving. Competition from the Klamath airshow also hurt attendance. Still we had a great day and the airport and a lot of fun was had by the attendees. Many thanks to all those that helped with the event, especially Professional Air and Butch Roberts for all their efforts this year. Be prepared for another fine aviation presentation this month. Our program chair Ed Endsley provides details below about our expected presentation from Epic Aircraft. Plan to come by around 6pm for hanger flying and stick around for the sumptuous potluck at 6:30pm and our meeting at 7:00pm. Calendar: 17 July- Monthly Meeting 19 July- Monthly Flyout 21 August- Monthly Meeting 22-23 August - Central Oregon Airshow (Madras) 23 August- Monthly Flyout 23 August- OPA State Convention in Eugene 13 September - Barbecue @ Monument 18 September - Monthly Meeting 20 September - Monthly Flyout 16 October - Monthly Meeting 18 October - Monthly Flyout My Inbox: Construction season is upon us and that includes the Bend Airport. That means our inboxes will be filling up with construction NOTAMs. To start there have been crews working on crack sealing and other maintenance for the ramp and taxiways. That work will continue from 8am to 5pm until 18 July, so it should be almost completed by the time you read this. The big news is that work to remove the old runway and the temporary taxiways has started. Until about mid October the entire airport will be closed to ALL operations from 6pm to 6am Sunday to Thursday. Additional closures may be required on a two or three day notice by NOTAM. Closures will also be posted on the city airport web site (bendairport.org). There will be a County Sheriff on duty during the closures and he will have orders to arrest any violators so pay attention! The first part of the project will be to remove the temporary taxiways in the middle of 16-34. The only way to enter or exit the runway from the west side will be the two taxiways at the far ends of the runway. Those are designated A1 and A6. Sometime around the end of August the four new mid field runway exits (A2 to A5) should open up. So be extra alert for aircraft doing a back taxi on the runway until then. No money yet for new REIL or PAPI lights, fingers crossed that we get the money in time to install those this year. Just like last year expect schedules to change with little notice and expect lots of confusion. So check your NOTAMS and check the airport web page. All construction crews will be monitoring the CTAF (123.0) so if you have any doubt at all call them. The crews have a job to do, giving us a beautiful brand new runway environment, so let's keep out of their way and let them finish as fast and safely as possible. Next year we get to do this again, as we should be getting a new east side taxiway (taxiway B). Web doings: Who has time for the web now? It is flying season in Central Oregon! But if you must, you can see our newsletters, useful aviation links, and more on our web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". Random Thoughts: Mogas is still comfortably above $4 a gallon and avgas is so high I hate to check the price. That leads to lots of chatter among pilots about alternative fuels. Two months ago I wrote here about the two popular contenders for oil replacement: batteries and hydrogen. As we found, the energy density for those two is just not high enough. If you fueled a small airplane with either one your range would be limited to around 100 miles. As usual I need only state an opinion to hear about all the obvious, and not so obvious, options that I miss. Due to some freak of weather I neglected to mention Compressed Natural Gas (CNG), Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) and Propane. They are all fossil fuels but burn cleaner than gasoline and are cheaper too. Modern engines can be readily converted to use each of these fuels and many barnyard tinkerers have converted their cars to do so. CNG suffers from the same problem as liquid hydrogen. The energy density is about 30% of gasoline. That means takes more than 3 times the volume of CNG to equal the same energy as gasoline. So if your aircraft could travel 1,000 miles on avgas it could only travel about 300 miles on CNG. Few will be willing to cut their travel range that drastically unless avgas gets a lot harder to purchase. LNG and propane look like the best alternatives so far. LNG contains 69% of the energy density of avgas and Propane has 74%. The problem with LNG is that it must be stored at -160C and I doubt that cryogenic tanks would work well in a Cessna. Luckily propane is so easy to store that we use it for backyard barbecues and lanterns. If my 1,000 mile range was cut to 700 miles and in return I saved a lot of money I could live with that. The problem is that a gallon of propane is just around $3.20 so the cost per mile would be similar to mogas. Nowhere near the huge savings if we could just figure out a way to cheaply carry enough electricity for a decent range. Now the alternatives get really weird. How about a nuclear powered airplane? As strange as it sounds, the US built working nuclear aircraft engines and designed aircraft to use them in the 1950s: On paper the US plan was pretty simple. Place a 35-megawatt nuclear reactor in a modified B-36 and call it an X-6 or B-60. As the plane flies, it sucks in air, like a jet, and blows that air over the reactor core until it reaches 2,000F. Then blow that hot air into four modified GE XJ53 turbojets to create thrust. The modified XJ53 was called an X39. Ed note: Prototype nuclear engine HTR-3 Tested at a remote site 150nm east of Boise, ID You now have enough aircraft that allows you to fly around for weeks without refueling! There were only a few practical problems left to solve: The engines needed to run continuously, for if the airflow over the 35MW reactor stopped it would melt down. Worse yet, the exhaust was radioactive since it had passed directly through the reactor core. That made flight over populated areas, at least friendly ones, inadvisable. Another huge problem was the weight of shielding required to keep from the crew safe. After adding 12 tons of lead to the airframe just behind the cockpit the useful load was negligible. Ground crews would presumably bring their own lead with them as required. The Russians went a bit further. They designed a small nuclear reactor that powered two jets. This was added to a Tupolev Tu-95M to create the Tu- 119. Conventional turboprops, as well as the nuclear engines would power that plane. The estimated range was 48 hours, after which the crew would be dead of radiation poisoning. Sources differ on how far the project actually progressed. Tu-119; the nuclear engine was too large, hence the dorsal hump Who knows, if JFK had not canceled the nuclear powered airplane research we might be flying nuclear and wearing radiation badges today. So, after examining the alternatives, it looks like oil powered airplanes will be around for a long time to come. Just be ready to pay dearly for it at the pump. Gary July 17th meeting ================= Plan to attend the Thursday, July 17, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Our special guests this month will be from Epic Air and they will be presenting information about their unique cutting edge technology that allows unprecedented performance. Their advanced use of carbon fiber techniques much like the Boeing 787 heralds a new age in general aviation. Economical single engine turbine, six people, three hundred forty knots at 31,000 feet, and over 1800NM range with a full payload. http://www.epicaircraft.com Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com The Checklist Dennis Douglas wrote this for our EAA1345 chapter, but I think it will be useful to us all to minimize run-up delays. I went flying the other day and, after going through the pre-flight inspection, I climbed in and went through my pre-taxi checklist. There's about 8 items on that list. Then I started the engine, and taxied out. When I got to the end of the taxiway, I swung the airplane around to face more into the wind, which I always try to do to get an extra bit of cooling during the run-up. As I made the turn, I saw that a Cessna Citation had been taxiing behind me and was now waiting for me to finish and takeoff. I ran through my run-up and pre-takeoff checklist --- there's about 15 things on that list ? and then I took off. The Citation took off almost immediately after I had departed and started my cross- wind turn. When I got back from my flight, I started thinking about the series of events that had occurred from my taxi to takeoff and I wondered if, had I done things a little differently, could I have made more efficient use of that precious end-of-the taxiway location? Would I have been a better and more appreciated pilot if I could have gotten out of the way sooner to let that jet take off sooner? The Bend airport doesn't yet have a run-up area, so every airplane has to pass over that one area that we all use for our run-up and going through the pre-takeoff checklist. While we might someday have a run-up area that is separate from the taxiway, for the time being each departing airplane "owns" that splotch of tarmac for as long as it takes us configure the airplane (and passengers) for flight and verify the operation of the various systems to get the airplane ready to fly. If there are airplanes behind us ready to fly, they just have to wait their turn to get to the runway. What could I do to minimize my time clogging up the departure end while there might me several planes behind me?jets, taxi- backs and others whose own run-up is done and they are just waiting for a takeoff slot? I dawned on me that my GlaStar checklist?one that I had patterned after the one I had for my C-172?was potentially a clod in the churn. Could I shorten it up or alter it in some way to minimize the amount of time I was blocking other airplanes from taking off?forcing them, in effect, to just cool their heels while I did my thing? I got out the checklist and started looking it over. The list I had made up for my GlaStar had a whole bunch of things on it that I could move from the run-up and pre- takeoff section to the pre-taxi list where I'm sitting idling in front of my hangar and not tying up the taxiway. Things like setting the altimeter, verifying the controls are free and clear, verifying the fuel gauges match my pre-flight inspection levels, confirming operation of all the systems, cleaning up the cockpit and so on. All these things required a bit of time and could easily be moved. So I re-organized the checklist, leaving only the engine run-up, flap setting, radio frequency setting, doors locked, seat belts, boost pump and landing light left to do before taking the runway. I've tried it several times since I re-organized it and it works well in minimizing the time at the end of the runway connector. Try it. You'll be a better airport neighbor and some pilots will appreciate it. Dennis Douglas ------------------------------------------------------- New airport runway on the Portuguese island of Madeira The runway length is 9000 ft of which 3000 are supported by 180 pillars, each pillar about 17 floors high. The runway is designed to accommodate 747s. Note the cars parked below the runway. It's a bit like landing on an aircraft carrier. Let's not even think about running off that runway! ----------------------------------------------------- Man's best flying companion BY CHARLES E. FLEDER (AOPA on-line) We live in the deep south of southern Arizona, where the U.S. Air Defense Identification Zone is just a stone's throw away. Between May and September, the outdoor temperatures climb to levels at which human life cannot be sustained between the hours of 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. To make the long hot summers a little more bearable, we built a small log cabin in the San Juan Mountains near Telluride, Colo. Every six weeks or so, we would load up the SUV and head to Colorado with kids, luggage, kitchen sinks, and last but not least, our dog, Wally the Border collie. Although Wally seemed to enjoy our time in Colorado, he was not particularly fond of the trip. Maybe it was the 13-plus hours of being stuck in a tiny space in the back of the SUV, or having luggage fall on his head every time we rounded a sharp curve, or perhaps it was the 150-degree-Fahrenheit pavement at the Arizona rest areas. Regardless, it was clear that he did not want to go. On travel days he was usually nowhere to be found (piling up the luggage at the front door seemed to tip him off). When I did find him, I had to attach the leash and forcibly drag him to the car leaving four deep skid marks in the gravel. After 30 or so all-day trips to Telluride, we decided there had to be better way. Our solution was to purchase a Piper Cherokee 180 with the intention of flying as close as we could to Telluride and then renting a car for the remainder of the journey. The density altitude at Telluride in the summer can easily exceed 12,000 ft., so flying direct was not an option for this airplane. On our first few airplane trips, we left Wally at home with a pet sitter. Although my wife, Jackie, had grave reservations about flying Wally to Colorado in the baggage compartment of the airplane, I eventually convinced her that everything would be fine. To ease her concern about Wally falling out or being inadvertently thrown from the baggage compartment in rough air, I fashioned a lightweight panel to serve as a safety door to keep him from resting his weight on the baggage door. I also found a way to comfortably restrain him. To be honest, I also had my doubts about how well Wally would take to flying. The air during the summer in Arizona can get pretty rough, even early in the day. The thought of an airsick dog?soon to be followed by two young, upset, regurgitating kids was too horrible to imagine. But hey, I'm a pilot. So off we went: kids, wife, greatly reduced luggage (no kitchen sink this time), and Wally the collie in the back of the mighty Cherokee to southwestern Colorado. To my utter amazement, all went well. There was no regurgitating. There were no inadvertent ejections. There was not even a discouraging word, or in this case, whimper. In fact, Wally seemed to love flying. After a refueling stop, Wally was actually eager to hop back in the baggage compartment and get under way. Since that first flight, Wally the flying collie and I have racked up many hours in the Cherokee, flying all over the West with never a problem. The SUV is still on Wally's "avoid at all cost" list. But, when I open the hangar, he can't wait to climb in the airplane. Maybe he's a kindred spirit. BDN Airport Day --- June 21st, in case you missed it! Visiting RV group USFS Bell205 from Wenatchee en-route to California forest fires. A departing Piaggio Avanti P.180 -------------------------------------------------------------- COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From gem at rellim.com Wed Jul 16 18:17:13 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Uh, Oh Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! I presume folks have heard about the two crashes in our area this week. Monday a 1998 Lancair based out of the San Jose area landed long at Dry Creek after going around twice, then ran off the end of the runway. No one was hurt and damage looked minimal. Pictures are here: http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=8679115 Today a Cessna 441 from Bakersfield crashed on landing at Sunriver and the pilot was killed. Witnesses say the plane had been making repeated landings at the airport until the accident. KGW has a dramatic picture of the plane just about to crash here: http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_071608_news_bend_fatal_plane.5fd8dc76.html Two solemn reminders that when in doubt, GO AROUND. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIfp2c8KZibdeR3qURAgisAJwM0k/IWyewYxo7+9kk2Zl2B0LFKACfYM+A 3gYgEFtGnFQFWjezaN0Z41A= =kd3G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Thu Jul 17 11:06:05 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] More closure info Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! There will be an additional 1/2 hour closure at KBDN next week. This is to allow Knife River to do some blasting in the AM. Here is the NOTAM; Date Issued: 07/16/08 Time Issued: 4:50 PM Local NOTAM Information: Beginning Monday Morning 07-21-08 through Friday 07-25-08 the Airport will be closed from 13:00 Z to 13:30 Z for construction. (LOCAL): Beginning Monday morning 07-21-08 through Friday morning 07-25-08 the Airport will be closed for construction from 6 am local to 6:30 am local for construction. Notam # MMV 07/055 RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIf4oQ8KZibdeR3qURAnBqAJsFW3s3FPkvpGzTNMxoATKIHV0YEgCgqC0B t8NDtYwywx56riSw+ZAmDJM= =f8WR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Jul 18 20:26:18 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Independence Biplane Fly-In (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! 2nd try. Looks like this did not go out this morning. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Yo All! This Saturday (19Jul) will be the Independence Biplane Fly-In: http://www.eaa292.org/biplaneflyin/ Sounds like a great event to fly out to. At least 2 planes will be making the fly-out. So let's meet at the KBDN flight Services Building at 8:30am and head out at 9am for 7S5. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIgV7g8KZibdeR3qURApUEAJ9H958gaRn8/FCqBWpBhBnsL0R3QACfZbzT k8UTheZ55/RdYOBKVSbw2cw= =4pyr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Tue Jul 22 19:00:23 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Team Oregon Aviation Outreach Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! See below for an invite by way of Sue Palmeri. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Team Oregon Aviation Outreach The Transportation Security Administration (TSA), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), and Oregon Department of Aviation (ODA) have initiated an outreach group called Team Oregon Aviation Outreach. Representatives from the Oregon offices of both Federal Agencies and the ODA recognized that an information gap exists with the General Aviation Community. Team Oregon Aviation Outreach was developed with the intent to inform and foster open, personal dialog with pilots, airport sponsors, FBO's, and flight schools so that we can work together to advance aviation in the state. The team has met in Tillamook and Aurora in well received meetings. The agenda items discussed at these meetings and the agenda for the meeting in Redmond follow: TSA Portland General, Sanitized, Unclassified Intelligence Brief Functions of TSA & Homeland Security GA Framework & Initiatives Law Enforcement Initiatives Team Oregon Initiatives Flight Training Inspections How TSA Can Help/How the GA Community Can Help FAA Flight Standards District Office Hillsboro Runway Incursions Oregon Department of Aviation Overview of Oregon System of Airports Department's Roles & Current Initiatives The presentations were followed by a free-form question and answer period. Everyone's participation is important to us and these meetings. We invite you to attend the next meeting, hosted by Wings of the Cascades Spirit Flight Inc.: Date: Thursday July 31st, 2008 Time: 6:30 p.m. Location: Roberts Field (2032 SE Airport Way, Redmond, OR) If you have any further questions, comments or agenda items, please contact: Teri Gehringer, Transportation Security Inspector Aviation, TSA, 503-889-3061, or Teri.Gehringer at dhs.gov Penny Ratliff, Aviation Safety Inspector, FAA FSDO, 503-615-3227, or Penny.Ratliff at faa.gov Rob Pruitt, State Airports Manager, ODA, 503-378-2523, or Rob.Pruitt at state.or.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIhpC58KZibdeR3qURAkFsAJ9/oJcEML+mbhRiOwIC2Rvoea3q6ACgwi08 XGQGguqmy08S9Rxk5+UacYY= =PWnc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Aug 8 12:58:57 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] BEND AIRPORT RUNWAY CONSTRUCTION UPDATE (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in, the Bend Airport now just closed Monday to Thursday nights, from 6pm local to 6am the next day. Work must be moving along nicely. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:51:36 -0700 From: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us To: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us Subject: BEND AIRPORT RUNWAY CONSTRUCTION UPDATE Airport Tenants & Interested Parties: ? We are adjusting the hours of closure for the Bend Airport Runway Reconstruction Project.? I have attached a NOTAM stating the information in both?ZULU and LOCAL. ? Basically the Bend Airport will now be open on Sunday evenings (LOCAL) instead of being closed.? All other nights and times of closure remain the same. ? Please contact me if you have any questions. ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR??97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax - ----------------- BEND MUNICIPAL AIRPORT Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) 1-877-487-6867 Date Issued: 08-08-08 Time Issued: 11:30 local NOTAM: BEND AIRPORT closed Tuesday ? Friday nights from 01:00 Z to 13:00 Z for construction until further notice. (Local) BEND AIRPORT closed from Monday ? Thursday nights from 6:00 pm local ? 6:00 am local until further notice. Notam #: MMV 08/053 Issued by: SLP Flt. Service Contact Initials: IW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFInKWEBmnRqz71OvMRAgQZAKCZgasv2J0UGGdAFkAI3HwR4ZjTmACfVgPA NOpgL5q0FmRCsYebGkJkSBg= =Esl1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Sat Aug 9 18:17:44 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Glider Crash at KBDN Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! In case you have not heard, the High Desert Soaring Club two place Blanik L13 landed short of 16 today. No one was seriously hurt but the L13 looks seriously wounded. I hope the plane can fly again someday. Z21 coverage here: http://www.ktvz.com/Global/story.asp?S=8816378&nav=menu578_2 RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFInkG7BmnRqz71OvMRAl4wAJ9PT2UvJ2iV+QMxBqp4vX79zepZ/ACgxvnt AIlW7gl53WFPlObGNaREVAY= =OdbV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Tue Aug 19 16:15:16 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:15:16 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Aviation Program Announcement Message-ID: Aviation Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, August 21, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Richard Benson will be our passionate guest speaker this month. Richard will be discussing high altitude one way strips in preparation for a group flyout to Monument (12S) for a BBQ potluck (more details at the meeting) that he and Debbie are graciously hosting on September 13th. Richard has a special love for back country strips and I can personally attest to his smooth technique and expertise. His presentation will include: The 'illusions' on the 2200'--narrow--5% uphill-- Monument runway which is at 2323 MSL; taxiing on the gravel w/o damaging the prop; the canyon flying options of the immediate area; canyon flying safety & etiquette; the local MTR's; other airstrips in the area; land-based recreation options of the immediate area; motel--store--tavern facilities; and more... Richard suggests that you bring your SEA & K-Falls sectionals with you if you desire to know about the other airports in the Monument vicinity, MTR's, canyon routes, etc... He & Debbie will shuttle folks to & from the airstrip & the motel for those who spend the night (it is very inexpensive----see link----plus a 5% discount for our flyin)... http://www.monumentmotel.com/ Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Aug 20 02:45:06 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:45:06 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA August 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <48ABE7A2.90700@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the August 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER August 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 8 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Many thanks to Rick Schrameck for dropping by last month. We heard from the horse's mouth about all the great things that are happening at Epic Aircraft right here in Bend. Most small aircraft companies would be content to have an airplane that can haul six people at three hundred forty knots for over 1800nm with a full payload. Not Epic, they just had to start all over and create new single and twin engine jets to round out the product line. If you missed the presentation you can still check the company out on their web site: http://www.epicaircraft.com. Our guest speaker this month will be our own Richard Benson and he will be telling us all about Monument Airport (12S) and its environs. The airport is a bit unusual. Unlike most canyon airports the runway is at a right angle to the river and has a 5% grade! Nothing really to worry about but this briefing from Richard will prepare us for this unique airport. 12S will be our destination for a special flyout on September 13th. So be sure to attend our meeting so Richard can brief us about the airport and the barbecue and other events planned for the flyout. Plan to come by around 6pm for hanger flying and stick around for our Olympic class pot-luck at 6:30pm and the meeting at 7pm. Calendar: 21 August- Monthly Meeting 22-23 August - Central Oregon Airshow (Madras) 23 August- Monthly Flyout (Madras) 23 August- OPA State Convention in Eugene 13 September - Barbecue @ Monument 18 September - Monthly Meeting 20 September - Monthly Flyout 16 October - Monthly Meeting 18 October - Monthly Flyout 20 November - Monthly Meeting 22 November - Monthly Flyout My Inbox: Sometimes my Inbox is special for what is not in it. In this case I had to learn about major doings from the Bend Bulletin and Z21. With virtually no notice, to anyone, the City of Bend was meeting with the Deschutes County Commissioners to create an Urban Renewal Plan around the Bend Airport. At that meeting the Commissioners determined that public notice was so deficient that they tabled the first reading for a week. Who knew the city could move major business so quietly? Who knows why the city would want to do so? It certainly did not stop detractors of the plan from testifying and failed to rally airport supporters to the plan. Leaving aside for now the questions of how this plan is coming to be, let's look at the plan itself. Raising money for the Bend Airport has been problematic. The city of Bend pays for the airport, but taxes raised at the airport go to Deschutes county which has not been funding anything at the airport. The airport continues to create many good jobs but many holding those jobs live outside the city and so do not provide votes for the city council or taxes for the city coffers. In short, the city pays for the airport and the county gets much, or maybe most, of the benefit. Creating an Urban Renewal Plan is a way to redress this imbalance. Under the Plan, any increase in taxes collected at the airport would be spent at the airport. Still, there are a few troubling things about this plan. It specifies funding for a number of projects, but some are not on the current Airport Master Plan. The Airport Master Plan is the result of years and years of accumulated work; It is approved by the airport community, the city, the county and the FAA to provide an integrated plan for the next 20 years of airport growth. All of a sudden this new plan comes out of nowhere embodying specific projects that have never even been considered as part of the master plan. Something is wrong here. Still, on balance, this Urban Renewal Plan is very much what the airport needs to continue to grow well. So call your favorite County Commissioner and tell them to vote yes. Web doings: The home page now has 3 photos from Richard Benson of Monument and the airport there. Looks like fun! And as always you can see our newsletters, useful aviation links, and more on our web site: http://co- opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". Random Thoughts: Pretty much everyone I talk to lately will mention that the traffic pattern at Bend Airport is getting a little crazy these days. The problems fall into three main areas: creative traffic pattern procedures, communications and noise abatement. I was taught, and we commonly see, many different ways to enter the traffic pattern at a non-tower airport. Some use an upwind leg and enter the traffic pattern at the crosswind leg. Others cross midfield and turn onto the downwind. Still others will set up a long straight in final. All of these would be acceptable when offered by the tower at a controlled airport, but all are problematic at Bend Airport. I had suspected that these approaches may have been standard in the past, but checking an AIM from 1977 shows that this has not been the case for a while. Since at least then the AIM (section 4-3-3) recommends just one way: "Enter pattern in level flight, abeam the midpoint of the runway, at pattern altitude." This is especially important at KBDN because we have not one, but three active traffic patterns. First, there is the obvious left traffic for powered fixed wing aircraft. Second there is a right traffic pattern, at the same altitude for gliders. Third there is a right traffic pattern at 500 feet for helicopters. This is not academic, all three get heavy use here. It should now be obvious why an upwind leg is a bad idea at KBDN. It may put you head on with a very slow and hard to see glider. Similarly a mid-field crossing entry has you crossing the glider downwind. A short detour to a 45degree entry avoids these potential problems. The long final is a little less problematic but can lead to frayed tempers. If there is traffic in the normal pattern it is really hard for an aircraft on a long final to sequence into the other traffic. After a long cross-country a long straight is welcome, but not worth it if you disrupt the pattern. Worse yet you may encounter a NORDO on short final and get a real surprise. This brings us to the issue of radio communications. Sure we are not required to have or use radios at a non- towered airport but it sure helps. Pilots should self announce when inbound, entering downwind, turning base and turning final. It also should go without saying that pilots should also be listening when other pilots are making these reports. I have recently witnessed several near mid air collisions because one pilot was not following this using his radios. All of them classic low wing descending upon high wing incidents --- one in which I was an unwitting participant. Remember to use those radios! The last issue is noise abatement. There is never a public meeting about Bend Airport business when there is not a resident, or five, from Cimarron City protesting. When more people protest airport operations it is harder for the airport to get needed funding. (See My Inbox above). I would like here to give a link to the Fly Friendly brochure, but that link has been broken on the city web site for some time. Worse yet the city has no intention of fixing it until the next revision of the brochure is available. Not going to hold my breath on that one. Cimarron City is located to the north east of the airport and if you are flying a normal left traffic pattern to runway 16 you will fly right over it. Please do not do this! Be sure to keep your downwind to 16 in tight so as to avoid this very noise sensitive area. We also need to keep a good altitude over Alfalfa and the nearby cities. Central Oregon has a lot of totally unpopulated areas to fly over, so lets avoid the few areas that will cause complaints. KBDN is no longer a sleepy country airport, so we need to shape up! August meeting Plan to attend the Thursday, August 21, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Richard Benson will be our passionate guest speaker this month. Richard will be discussing high altitude one way strips in preparation for a group flyout to Monument (12S) for a BBQ potluck (more details at the meeting) that he and Debbie are graciously hosting on September 13th. Richard has a special love for back-country strips and I can personally attest to his smooth technique and expertise. His presentation will include: The 'illusions' on the 2200'--narrow--5% uphill-- Monument runway which is at 2323 MSL; taxiing on the gravel w/o damaging the prop; the canyon flying options of the immediate area; canyon flying safety & etiquette; the local MTR's; other airstrips in the area; land-based recreation options of the immediate area; motel--store?tavern facilities; and more... Richard suggests that you bring your SEA & K-Falls sectionals with you if you desire to know about the other airports in the Monument vicinity, MTR's, canyon routes, etc... He & Debbie will shuttle folks to & from the airstrip & the motel for those who spend the night (it is very inexpensive----see link----plus a 5% discount for our flyin)... http://www.monumentmotel.com/ Don't miss this opportunity for a very entertaining and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com July flyout: Independence biplane flyin Gary Miller's Turbo Centurion and the Bond's Cardinal RG made a smooth trip over the Cascades on July to visit this event at the Independence Airpark just SE of Salem's Class D airspace. The lunch was good too, overlooking the ramp at the Starduster Caf? ? and the TravelAir was giving rides all day. Mike Bond =========================================================== COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 20340 Empire Blvd., E-3 Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President Nancy Lecklider 3054 NW Clubhouse Dr Bend, OR 97701 541 330-1853 leckone at bendcable.com Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Thu Aug 21 08:22:31 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:22:31 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: <7A61321A550E4C679057398600C1A15F@WilfongDon> FLY-OUT FUN.........THIS WEEKEND MADRAS, OR S33 CENTRAL OREGON AIRSHOW NOTE: DON'T MISS THAT IT IS ON FRIDAY EVENING AUG 23 AND ALL DAY SAT. AUG 24 PLAN TO BE THERE....THIS IS ALWAYS A FUN EVENT !!! GO ON LINE AT www.centraloregonairshow.org to pull up a flyer with all the details....... DON WILFONG, TEMP FLY-OUT CHAIRMAN dwnw at bendbroadband.com P.S.: TONIGHT (THURS. AUG 21) IS OUR POTLUCK/MEETING AT PRO-AIR........ ED ENDSLEY HAS SOMETHING GOOD PLANNED FOR THE MEETING......... From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Sun Aug 24 18:11:29 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:11:29 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] PLEASE READ...... Message-ID: <49AD3DE7EB7F48F29123F423AD59B994@WilfongDon> Fellow Flyers??. I realize this is a very busy time of year and we are all trying to get the very last out of Summer??but???.please take a moment and read this and give it some serious thought??? This is to remind us again that......... Richard and Debbie Benson have invited our group to fly to Monument, Oregon on September 13, 2008 to have a picnic at their second home. They have offered to provide ground transportation to and from the airport. There are other possible activities that one might want to do and they have been gracious enough to offer additional transportation so we might enjoy other things too. There is a Motel there for those who might wish to spend the night (the cost is quite reasonable) and they will provide transportation back to the airport on Sunday. The exact plans are very much dependent upon the number of people who show up. They have gone to considerable effort to plan this and have adjusted their busy lives to accommodate all of us. I feel we as a group should have the courtesy to let them know how many of us plan to go. Please discuss this and let me know as soon as possible as to whether you feel you will be able to go or not?..please let me know either way. Thank You ! ! ! Don Wilfong, Temp. Fly-out Chairman dwnw at bendbroadband.com 541 389-1456 P.S.: More details to follow when we have an idea if we have enough participation to have this fly-out or not??? From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Aug 26 10:42:10 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:42:10 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLY-OUT FUN TO MONUMENT Message-ID: <66F4864B911F4AD4A739E96D5C874600@WilfongDon> HEY GANG........ WE NOW HAVE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED TO GOING TO MONUMENT ON SEPT. 13 (AT THE INVITATION OF RICHARD AND DEBBIE BENSON). SOME OF US ARE PLANNING ON STAYING OVERNIGHT AT THE MOTEL AND WE ARE MAKING PLANS FOR BREAKFAST FOR THOSE WHO DO. SOME ARE FLYING IN AND OTHERS WILL DRIVE AND/OR BE THERE IN THEIR RV. THE PLAN IS FOR THE BENSONS TO PROVIDE A RIDE FROM THE AIRPORT TO THEIR PLACE AND FOR US TO HAVE THE PICNIC AT 1330 HRS. (1:30 P.M.) SO EVERYONE, NOT STAYING OVERNIGHT, HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO FLY HOME AFTER THE FESTIVITIES. THERE IS A TAVERN THERE THAT SERVES FOOD FOR OTHER MEALS. FOR THE PICNIC DEBBIE IS PREPARING A CHICKEN CASAROLE AND FRENCH BREAD AND THE REST OF US CAN BRING SALADS, DESSERTS OR WHATEVER YOU THINK EVERYONE MIGHT ENJOY. DO PLAN TO COME AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW OF YOUR PLANS (WHETHER YOU PLAN TO BE THERE OR NOT) SO WE CAN PLAN ACCORDINGLY. BELOW IS SOME INFORMATION PRIVIDED BY RICHARD AND DEBBIE........THEY WILL PROVIDE WHEELS FOR SOME EXTRA ACTIVITIES. DON WILFONG........541 389-1456.......... dwnw at bendbroadband.com For Overnighters (flying or driving): ? Monument Motel & RV Park: (541-934-2242) The room rate for a kitchenette for one person is $63 + tax and $5 for the each additional adult. The studio's run $53 + tax for the first adult and $58 for two. *The RV Park is very nice* See www.MonumentMotel.com and click on "Activities" for fun ideas... Land-based recreation options of this amazing canyon environment: ? Visit the John Day Fossil Beds and hike among the majestic Painted Hills. ? Fish for steelhead, small mouth bass, rainbow trout (in season). ? Take a walk along the North Fork, John Day River. ? Pick your own cherries, apricots, nectarines, peaches, pears & Apples in season at Thomas Orchard located in Kimberly. ? Drive into the Umatilla Forest to see the many varieties of wildflowers and wildlife, including Rocky Mountain elk, mule deer, antelope, bear, & cougar. From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Sep 2 09:56:12 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:56:12 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] SEPT. 13 FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: HEY GANG..........I AM SENDING THIS OUT NOW AND WILL SEND IT OUT AGAIN NEXT WEEK....I WANTED TO GIVE YOU TIME TO BE SURE TO INCLUDE IT IN YOUR PLANS AND, SHOULD YOU WISH, TIME TO MAKE RESERVATIONS FOR STAYING OVERNIGHT AND ENJOYING AN EVENING OF FUN AND HANGAR FLYING........PLUS..........THE GREAT BREAKFAST PLANNED FOR THE NEXT MORNING........DON WILFONG **SEPT. 13 FLY-OUT/PICNIC AT MONUMENT, OREGON** Fellow Flyers... As you know Richard and Debbie Benson have invited our group to fly to Monument, Oregon on Saturday September 13 for a picnic/lunch at their 'getaway'. We will be gathering around 1pm, for lunch at 1:30 thus recommend landing Monument Airport (12s) -- around 12:30. With a 5% grade all landings are to the north on Runway 32, the final approach course is over Bensons place (696 Wilson St), so they will come pick us up. Richard will also be listening on 122.9 for your traffic pattern advisories... Cell phones don't work in the canyon environment, but Bensons Monument # is 934-2171 should you desire to call before you depart (or above 5000' MSL)... They will provide ground transportation to & from the Airport (& the motel for those who stay overnight)...We have some driving in with their RV and staying at the RV Park. Debbie plans to prepare a Chicken Casserole + French Bread, & invites you to bring a Salad or Dessert for Saturdays picnic. The local tavern opens at 11am but for our "Overnighters" they are preparing a "SUNDAY BREAKFAST BUFFET" AT 8 AM; which includes: Eggs--Sausage--Pancakes--Bacon--& Toast-----All this for just $6.00 per person...... If you were not planning to stay overnight you might want to make reservations........This sounds like a great time........ You may Call or Email Richard & Debbie at (541)389-4523 or catacres at webformixair.com for more info. Their Monument # is 541-934-2171 Do note that there are 3 aerial views of Monument at the top of our COPA Website... We do need a 'headcount' so please let me know as soon as possible whether you will be going or not. Thank You ! ! ! Don Wilfong, Temp. Fly-out Chairman dwnw at bendbroadband.com 541 389-1456 For Overnighters (flying or driving): ? Monument Motel & RV Park: (541-934-2242) The room rate for a kitchenette for one person is $63 + tax and $5 for the each additional adult. The studio's run $53 + tax for the first adult and $58 for two. *The RV Park is very nice* See www.MonumentMotel.com and click on "Activities" for fun ideas... Land-based recreation options of this amazing canyon environment: ? Visit the John Day Fossil Beds and hike among the majestic Painted Hills. ? Fish for steelhead, small mouth bass, rainbow trout (in season). ? Take a walk along the North Fork, John Day River. ? Pick your own cherries, apricots, nectarines, peaches, pears & Apples in season at Thomas Orchard located in Kimberly. ? Drive into the Umatilla Forest to see the many varieties of wildflowers and wildlife, including Rocky Mountain elk, mule deer, antelope, bear, & cougar. From gem at rellim.com Wed Sep 3 13:48:50 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport Runway Construction Update (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from Susan. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:44:33 -0700 From: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us Subject: Bend Airport Runway Construction Update Runway Construction Update The Airport will be closed on Sunday night, September 7th from 6 pm (LOCAL) to Monday morning at 6 am (LOCAL) to pave taxiway connectors A1 and A2. These are the connectors across from Cessna and Epic on the south end of the field. ?Once paved, it requires some time before we can paint them for use. They will not be usable by aircraft or vehicles until they have been painted which should be by mid to late next week. ?(You will know they are usable when we have removed the barricades.) HELICOPTERS:?It would be helpful to avoid hovering over these areas until they have been painted and are ready to use! ? ? ? ? ? Please contact me if you have any questions. ?Thank you again for your continued support. Sue ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 faxPUBLIC RECORDS LAW DISCLOSURE This e-mail is a public record of the City of Bend and is subject to public disclosure unless exempt from disclosure under Oregon Public Records Law. This email is subject to the State Retention Schedule. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIvvg1BmnRqz71OvMRAsggAJ4hNcLtj+NqP5Xh9McfkIVYmmgVuQCgg16R i+3xvcR+QYOj2B+doy/oMk4= =fENF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Wed Sep 3 13:59:40 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Municipal Airport Urban Renweal District Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! I just returned from today's the Deschutes County Commissioner's meeting. The proposal to go forward with an Urban Renewal District was defeated. Mike Daly was for it. Dennis Luke and Tammy Melton (nee Baney) against. Dennis was mainly concerned that the District would take money from the Sheriff's department and Rural Fire Protection District #2. Tammy was mainly concerned that the plan seemed too ad-hoc and unplanned. I believe that the growth in jobs from the airport will more than make up for any loss in property tax revenue, so I disagree with Dennis's position. As much as I feel this proposal should have been passed I have to agree that Tammy made fair objections. It has been many years since the Airport Ad-Hoc Committee was disbanded after recommending to the city that a standing Airport Committee be established. There has been no public planning on the airport since. That would have been the continuing vehicle to assure that long term planning was a continuous and open process at the airport. Fingers crossed that the City can regroup and get this passed. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIvvq/BmnRqz71OvMRAsK4AJ95CoExmN6wiC1NGy+3XpiiIP3i2QCeMdR/ 9glsJQrYPxVAU3Wr94lk7LE= =VVoI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Sun Sep 7 22:52:02 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Sad news Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This sad news just in from Joel Premselaar. My deepest sympathies for you Joel. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Joel Premselaar" Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:01:23 -0700 Dear Friends and Relatives, It is with deep remorse that I announce the passing of my greatest love and wife, Lynn. A victim of Alzheimer's Disease, she expired peacefully this past Thursday, 4 September 2008. Joel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIxL2FBmnRqz71OvMRAulgAJ9CKWuC5J78GlpKg0ZeP7hEROuqEwCcD72C kQH3pSNOIwGfAAnYE6vmWac= =e45s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Wed Sep 10 07:13:40 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: SEPT. 13 FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: <6F55A56B2F6F4D0B9B68981C85AD1A67@WilfongDon> HEY GANG..........WOW !! IT IS JUST A FEW SHORT DAYS UNTIL WE WILL BE WINGING OUR WAY (SOME WILL BE GROUND BOUND AND WILL BE DRIVING) TO MONUMENT........DON'T LET THIS CHANCE TO ENJOY THE WARM DAYS OF SUMMER....... THE WEATHER IS SCHEDULED TO BE CLEAR AND BEAUTIFUL........PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP IF YOU WILL BE JOINING US... I NEED TO GIVE A HEAD COUNT TO RICHARD AND DEBBIE AND ALSO TO THE TAVERN PEOPLE WHO ARE PUTTING ON A GREAT BREAKFAST FOR US ON SUNDAY MORNING.............PLEEEEEEAAAASE LET ME KNOW.......THANKS........DON WILFONG **SEPT. 13 FLY-OUT/PICNIC AT MONUMENT, OREGON** Fellow Flyers... As you know Richard and Debbie Benson have invited our group to fly to Monument, Oregon on Saturday September 13 for a picnic/lunch at their 'getaway'. We will be gathering around 1pm, for lunch at 1:30 thus recommend landing Monument Airport (12s) -- around 12:30. With a 5% grade all landings are to the north on Runway 32, the final approach course is over Bensons place (696 Wilson St), so they will come pick us up. Richard will also be listening on 122.9 for your traffic pattern advisories... Cell phones don't work in the canyon environment, but Bensons Monument # is 934-2171 should you desire to call before you depart (or above 5000' MSL)... They will provide ground transportation to & from the Airport (& the motel for those who stay overnight)...We have some driving in with their RV and staying at the RV Park. Debbie plans to prepare a Chicken Casserole + French Bread, & invites you to bring a Salad or Dessert for Saturdays picnic. The local tavern opens at 11am but for our "Overnighters" they are preparing a "SUNDAY BREAKFAST BUFFET" AT 8 AM; which includes: Eggs--Sausage--Pancakes--Bacon--& Toast-----All this for just $6.00 per person...... If you were not planning to stay overnight you might want to make reservations........This sounds like a great time........ You may Call or Email Richard & Debbie at (541)389-4523 or catacres at webformixair.com for more info. Their Monument # is 541-934-2171 Do note that there are 3 aerial views of Monument at the top of our COPA Website... We do need a 'headcount' so please let me know as soon as possible whether you will be going or not. Thank You ! ! ! Don Wilfong, Temp. Fly-out Chairman dwnw at bendbroadband.com 541 389-1456 For Overnighters (flying or driving): ? Monument Motel & RV Park: (541-934-2242) The room rate for a kitchenette for one person is $63 + tax and $5 for the each additional adult. The studio's run $53 + tax for the first adult and $58 for two. *The RV Park is very nice* See www.MonumentMotel.com and click on "Activities" for fun ideas... Land-based recreation options of this amazing canyon environment: ? Visit the John Day Fossil Beds and hike among the majestic Painted Hills. ? Fish for steelhead, small mouth bass, rainbow trout (in season). ? Take a walk along the North Fork, John Day River. ? Pick your own cherries, apricots, nectarines, peaches, pears & Apples in season at Thomas Orchard located in Kimberly. ? Drive into the Umatilla Forest to see the many varieties of wildflowers and wildlife, including Rocky Mountain elk, mule deer, antelope, bear, & cougar. _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From jinkster at bendbroadband.com Wed Sep 10 10:19:55 2008 From: jinkster at bendbroadband.com (Jim Inkster) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:19:55 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Inkster Email Message-ID: <20554627201A43EEB458E87516DF6BDF@your71a232d1a6> Hi Don, Thanks for the call. Here is my email address. Hope the emails start coming through! Jim Inkster 541-408-7768 N91816 C182M From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Thu Sep 11 21:42:02 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:42:02 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] SEPT. 13/14 FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: HEY.........WE HAVE NO SET PLANS TO MEET AT PRO-AIR FOR DEPARTURE.........EVERYONE CAN LEAVE FROM WHERE AND WHEN THEY WANT TO.......JUST DON'T BE LATE FOR THE PICNIC.........SOME DETAILS ARE LISTED BELOW......DON WILFONG **SEPT. 13 FLY-OUT/PICNIC AT MONUMENT, OREGON** Fellow Flyers... We will be gathering around 1pm, for lunch at 1:30 thus recommend landing Monument Airport (12s) -- around 12:30. With an uphill grade on the runway all landings are to the north on Runway 32, the final approach course is over Bensons place (696 Wilson St), so they will come pick us up. Richard will also be listening on 122.9 for your traffic pattern advisories... They will provide ground transportation to & from the Airport (& the motel for those who stay overnight)...We have some driving in with their RV and staying at the RV Park. Debbie plans to prepare a Chicken Casserole + French Bread, & invites you to bring a Salad, Dessert or ???? for Saturdays picnic. The local tavern opens at 11am but for our "Overnighters" they are preparing a "SUNDAY BREAKFAST BUFFET" AT 8 AM; which includes: Eggs--Sausage--Pancakes--Bacon--& Toast-----All this for just $6.00 per person...... THE WEATHER IS SUPPOSED TO BE PERFECT.........BLUE SKIES AND TAIL WINDS TO ALL...... DON & NORMA WILFONG From ed at edendsley.com Mon Sep 15 14:41:31 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:41:31 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Special Aviation Program Announcement Message-ID: Special Aviation Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, September 18, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building (The Professional Air Offices, http://www.proairservices.com/) at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Mr. John Carney, USAF Colonel, (Retired), will be our special guest speaker. Mr. Carney is a USAF Academy, and Air Force Institute of Technology, AFIT, Wright- Patterson AFB, graduate with advanced degrees in physics. He has worked on nuclear weapons testing, laser weapons testing, and satellite imaging systems. His military service also includes several positions in the Pentagon and the US military delegation to France. His distinguished career spans Vietnam to the space age with a biography too long to enumerate here. You'll need to meet the man and hear his very impressive stories... Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Sep 16 15:24:15 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:24:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] FLY-OUT FUN Message-ID: HEY GANG......... THIS SAT. SEPT. 20 IS OUR REGULAR FLY-OUT DATE WEATHER PERMITTING WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE A FLY-OUT (LET'S MAKE HAY WHILE THE SUN SHINES) ASTORIA IS HAVING A BIG EVENT THAT WE THINK WE SHOULD ATTEND....IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FUN BEFORE. WE ARE NOT PLANNING TO BE THERE IN TIME FOR THE PANCAKE BREAKFAST.....BUT WE HAVE ALWAYS FOUND SOMETHING TO EAT..... GO TO: http://www.portofastoria.com GO A LITTLE OVER 1/2 DOWN THE PAGE (ON THE LEFT SIDE) AND CLICK ON: US COASTGUARD AND PORT OF ASTORIA AIRPORT OPEN HOUSE SEPT. 19-20 THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE DETAILS AND ALLOW YOU TO PRINT OUT A PDF FLYER IF YOU CHOOSE....... WE WILL DISCUSS A TIME TO MEET AT OUR CO-OPA POTLUCK/MEETING THURS SEPT 18 AT PRO-AIR AND I WILL E-MAIL EVERYONE WITH THE DETAILS...........OH YES.........IF THE WEATHER DOES NOT ALLOW US TO GO TO ASTORIA WE HAVE OTHER OPTIONS..........WE WILL LET YOU KNOW.......... DON WILFONG, TEMP FLY-OUT CHAIR dwnw at bendbroadband.com 541 389-1456 From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu Sep 18 12:25:26 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:25:26 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA September newsletter Message-ID: <48D2AB26.5010801@spiritone.com> Apologies for the late newsletter... had a major computer calamity, but almost back to normal now. Gary posted the full PDF version on the website last night. Mike ====================================== CASCADE FLYER September 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 9 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Many thanks to our own Richard Benson for braving the left wing press, the paparazzi and ugly crowds to educate us on mountain flying and his beloved Monument Airport (12S) for our August meeting. His exhortations for change in our flyout schedule resulted in a heroic and patriotic turnout on the 13th of September for his gathering at Monument. For those that missed it, 12S is a one way curvy asphalt runway with a 5% grade set in the beautiful John Day River valley. I can confirm that Richard's advice for a happy landing there was spot on. Just focus on flying a normal pattern keying on the touch down zone and ignore the optical illusions that the tilted runway can cause. That made the landing a piece of cake only improved by the desserts at the fine lunch awaiting us. BTW, we hope Debbie has forgiven Richard for the Bass already... This month we have Mr. John Carney, USAF Colonel (Retired) for our speaker. Check out Ed's program announcement for a taste of what we can expect. Plan to come by around 6pm for hanger flying and stick around for our Olympic class pot-luck at 6:30pm and the meeting at 7pm. Calendar: 16 October - Monthly Meeting 18 October - Monthly Flyout 20 November - Monthly Meeting 22 November - Monthly Flyout 18 December - Monthly Meeting 20 December - Monthly Flyout 15 January - Monthly Flyout 17 January - Monthly Flyout My Inbox: Kerry O'Neal, the Sales Manager for Aero Facilities dropped me an email about the 73 new hangers his company is building on the east side of the Bend airport just north of the Epic facility. They are planning to sell the T-hangars as buildings of 8 starting at $600k. If you want something bigger they have 60x60s, and up to 100x100s, for $300k to $1.175M. You can find a plat and some sample architecture at http://www.aerofacilities.com If you want to get on their waiting list to rent a hanger, or want to buy one, then contact Kerry at koneal at aerofacilities.com. Web doings: The Deschutes Country Commissioners have shot down the Bend Municipal Airport Urban Renewal Plan, for now. There is a link to the plan near the top of our home page. You can also see our newsletters, useful aviation links, and more on our web site: http://co-opa.com/ To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". Random Thoughts: ADS what? Almost 10 years after ADS-B was launched in Alaska as a test program pilots are still asking that question. According to www.ads-b.com, ADS-B is an acronym that stands for: Automatic - It's always ON and requires no operator intervention Dependent - It depends on an accurate GNSS signal for position data Surveillance - It provides "Radar-like" surveillance services, much like RADAR Broadcast - It continuously broadcasts aircraft position and other data to any aircraft, or ground station equipped to receive ADS-B That is the sort of clear as mud description that only a policy wonk could love, but it is really fairly simple. A simple transceiver, called a UAT, is attached to your aircraft GPS that periodically broadcasts your current position and speed on a shared 978Mhz channel. Any other UAT can grab those position reports out of the ether and display them to ATC and to pilots in the air. This system has many advantages. It is as fast and accurate as your GPS, which is much more precise than RADAR. No ground equipment is required, other aircraft in your vicinity receive your position reports directly and in real time. No waiting, and hoping, that ATC has seen traffic of interest to you and relayed a traffic alert to you before you are counting the rivets of the other aircraft. The only ground equipment in the system is a simple transceiver. That ground equipment allows ATC to receive position reports from all ADS-B equipped nearby aircraft and relay position reports acquired from traditional RADAR back to your cockpit. That means that even if you are the only ADS-B aircraft in the area you still receive automatic real-time traffic reports. Sounds great, but when can we get it? Currently the FAA plans to cover the US with ADS-B ground stations by 2014 and then proceeds to decommission 50% of all RADAR sites by 2020. I'll believe it when I see it. Once there is good ground coverage my aircraft will need to be upgraded for ADS-B. Now the ouch part. There is only one UAT on the market now, the Garmin GDL-90, and it costs almost $7k, before installation. That UAT then does me no good until it is hooked up to a panel mounted GPS display. Something like the Garmin MX20 is required and that is likely another $7k installed. So it looks like I am stuck with good old flight following for a while longer. At least until the FAA rolls out the system and either prices come down or the stock market goes back up. Then I'll be able to spot my own traffic and the sky will get a lot safer September program Plan to attend the Thursday, September 18, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building at 6PM for a pot luck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Mr. John Carney, USAF Colonel, (Retired), will be our special guest speaker. Mr. Carney is a USAF Academy, and Air Force Institute of Technology, AFIT, Wright- Patterson AFB, graduate with advanced degrees in physics. He has worked on nuclear weapons testing, laser weapons testing, and satellite imaging systems. His military service also includes several positions in the Pentagon and the US military delegation to France. His distinguished career spans Vietnam to the space age with a biography too long to enumerate here. You'll need to meet the man and hear his very impressive stories... Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com/ Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com Airshow of the Cascades ?.was held at Madras (City-County) airport August 23-25 on quite a warm, cloudless day ? Although the COOPA contingent was a 'select few' ?. I observed the longest flightline, about a half- mile of airplanes, that I've ever seen at Madras; all visitors. ? ?. and a pair of contrasting aerobatic performers. The prerequisite daytime pyrotechnic 'attack' ? ? and a more gentle, nighttime display from Manfred Radius' sailplane. A 'blast from the past' ? the Thunderbirds at RDM, 'led' by a Horizon Dash 7. I'm guessing circa 1997 Thanks to Ed Endsley for the last two from his photo archive. I don't know whom to credit for the Monument photos since Don Wilfong sent me bunch taken by several attendees. Mike Bond Why I Fly ? 1976 C-177B Cardinal owner Jim Semmes recently posted the following on the Cardinal Flyers newsgroup. Today I thought it would be a good idea to clean out my bulging overstuffed dresser drawers. At the bottom of one of my drawers I found a couple of paragraphs I had written after being inspired after a particularly enjoyable flight in my Cardinal. It went like this: Yesterday, I lifted off Imperial County Airport in my sleek, tan and brown Cardinal. It was going to be a beautiful late afternoon hop. Broken white cumulus clouds hung overhead at about 6,000 feet with an overcast at 8,000 feet. The air was still and cool. I was flying by myself with less than half fuel so my plane quickly left the ground and climbed skyward. I later found out that my wife, Margie, had seen me takeoff as she was at the store and saw me head westward towards our home. As I continue to climb, I approached the base of the beautiful puffy white clouds scattered everywhere. As I skirted toward the top layers, I saw the sun sinking on the horizon sending sunbeams in every direction and lighting up blue pathways to dart in and out of. The majesty of the moment was breathtaking and made it quite easy to forget everything but the quiet serenity of what surrounded me. This is what flying was all about, I thought; magic, peaceful, almost intoxicating. As the sun dropped and the clouds grew darker, I descended through the openings below. As I came down, closer to the airport, I heard voices on the radio saying the winds had picked up at my home airport. As I entered downwind, a pilot who had just landed responded to my position announcement that the winds were squirrelly, gusting from various directions in excess of 18 knots. No problem, I thought, as I drew closer to final approach, making periodic adjustments to stay aligned with the runway. And, as I crossed the numbers and gently let down, I squeaked the Cardinal on the asphalt completing what had been a beautiful evening flight. Shortly after I shut down my plane, Margie appeared in the Tahoe just on the other side of the fence. She had come from the store where the winds had gusted suddenly and strongly. She wanted to be sure I had gotten down all right, and seemed happy to see me. After I put the plane back in the hangar, I called the FBO to gas the plane so it would be ready for that next magical flight. Yes, flying is in my blood and always will be. Thank you, Cardinal, for lifting my spirits again. September 13th fly-out WOW !!! We had a really great fly-out........We had a total of seven (7) planes there on the Monument Airport and 2 couples drove.......The Motel was full with 8 people from our group staying overnight......plus there were 3 of our group that flew home on Sat. afternoon.......there was also several others that either flew in or drove in. The weather was absolutely beautiful without a cloud in the sky.......it was quite warm but not too warm. Richard and Debbie were the perfect hosts.....they provided transportation to and from the motel, the airport and from breakfast on Sunday morning. We had quite a spread for our picnic with Debbie having prepared the main dish plus chips and dip, everyone brought something or picked up something at the local store, we had lots to eat, some beer (only those that were not flying until the next day had any beer) and we had pie and ice cream along with a few other deserts. All in all it was a fabulous picnic in a very quiet setting..........Cell phones do not work in Monument so we didn't have any interruptions from phones. Monument is a quiet little town with very friendly people. The local Tavern served some great hamburgers, with all the trimmings, to some of us on Sat. evening. A few of the locals had a rousing poker game going (I would have liked to have gotten into that one). We didn't hang around too long and then went back to the motel for the night. The owner (a real nice lady) was there working until 2:30 AM and then was back there at 4:30 AM to start fixing the breakfast for our group....Let me tell you she sure knows how to put on a breakfast......We had eggs, bacon, link sausage, hotcakes, bisquits and real sausage gravy along with juice and coffee. We all ate until we couldn't hold any more.......... The Tavern normally doesn't open nearly that early and they don't normally serve breakfast. This gives you an idea of how friendly the people in small towns really are..........she offered to do this just because we were coming to town to visit Richard and Debbie and she knew we would all be hungry.......... We are hoping that Richard and Debbie will make this an annual event.........if it draws even more people (and we hope it does) we can move the picnic down to one of the two local parks.......If you were not able to attend this one you really missed a great time...........maybe next year. Ed Endsley walked out into the field next to Richard and Debbie's home ( they baled the alfalfa hay, loaded the bales and hauled it off the field while we were there) where he picked up a handful of alfalfa hay (we are not sure what he planned to do with it and were afraid to ask).........well when he came back with his prize he decided to crawl over the fence instead of walking around.......... We have attached a picture of Ed as he (not so gracefully) climbed over the fence with the help of a ladder that Debbie brought to his rescue. Hope to see you next fly-out........ Don Wilfong And last, but not least, the Monument (12S) flightline ?.. ======================================================================== COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 109 NW Wilmington Ave Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President --------OPEN---------- Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Thu Sep 18 12:34:15 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:34:15 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: Airport Closure UPDATE Message-ID: I do not know who decided to close the airport on a weekend, but it seems to me that a weekday closure would impact far fewer airport users, especially at this time of the year. From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Thu Sep 18 17:07:07 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:07:07 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Weekend Airport Closure Sept 27 - 28 Message-ID: Ms. Palmeri, Can you please explain how and why the decision was made to close the airport for the weekend of September 27 - 28? There are a significant number of airport tenants and users who would have much preferred that this two day closure occur on week days rather than a weekend. I look forward to your explanation. Thank you. Michael Adler From gem at rellim.com Fri Sep 19 16:02:33 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] FLy-out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! The weather forecasts for Astoria and the Valley have been deteriorating. weather.gov now forcasts 20% chance of rain Saturday in Astoria. Salem is now forcast broken 3,500 at 7AM and 20% chance of rain Sunday. The recent update for Bend on Saturday is now also 20% chance of rain. So clearly something bad is moving in, how fast is issue, but the trend is worrisome. The weather to the south is forcast better but the fires at Crescent would not be fun to fly around. So, let's meet at the Flight Services building at 8:30 and look out the window. Maybe we just go to Sunriver for breakfast, or even back to Palmer's. I hope to see many of you there. Suggestions anyone? RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI1C+MBmnRqz71OvMRArqiAKCDS7Q0nXid/o+UXhQBUg1p+16xzQCfXuuE v/oRLvhmt/+Quyzg0ukMTDo= =rD3i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Sun Sep 28 12:18:12 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Airport Closure UPDATE (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This good news just in from Susan. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:55:22 -0700 From: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us To: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us Subject: Re: Airport Closure UPDATE We finished the runway and taxiway connector work late last night and thought you would be interested to know that BEND AIRPORT IS OPEN ?TODAY - - SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 28th. ? Enjoy! ? We will continue to do ?construction work on Monday - Thursday evenings (local 6 pm to 6 am). ? ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax Susan Palmeri/Bend 09/18/2008 11:22 AM To cc Subject Airport Closure UPDATE Airport Users: ? We need to close the airport during the day to complete the final paving of the last (2) connectors A4 & A5 and to complete the runway and taxiway connectors marking and painting. (The new runway will be getting the second coat of paint.) ?The work must be done during the day due to warmer temperatures and the need to be able to be precise with the painting. ?There is never a good time to do this, and I understand in advance that no matter when we close the airport it will probably have a negative impact on someone. I apologize in advance if this is the case for you or for your firm. The Bend Airport will be closed (LOCAL TIMES) beginning Saturday morning September 27th at 8 am and will remain closed until 6 pm on Sunday, September 28th. (If we are able to complete the process earlier than 6 pm on Sunday we will reopen the airport at that time.) We will then continue with our usual closure on (local) Monday- Thursday nights 6 pm -6 am. Thank you for your continued support. Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI39h3BmnRqz71OvMRAmVPAJ90gUnapi4hY8twmg/kut1pHDU7+gCgjuoY KNQX6bOL9mdVwIOg2Tst7xw= =dAoG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Mon Oct 13 10:30:39 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:30:39 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Special Aviation Program Announcement Message-ID: Special Aviation Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, October 16, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building (The Professional Air Offices, http://www.proairservices.com/) at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! We will be treated to a double header program. Sue Palmeri, Bend Airport Manager, will give a brief update on the many issues affecting BDN. Our headline presenter will be Ms. Nan Garnick who is a valued new member of the Oregon Aviation Board. Ms. Garnick was appointed by Governor Kulongoski and confirmed By the Oregon Senate. Ms. Garnick is a native Central Oregonian and the new owner-operator of Butler Aviation. She and her husband have been involved in many interesting aspects of aviation. We are fortunate to have her expert local and state level representation. Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Oct 15 01:27:05 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:27:05 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA October 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <48F5A959.2050403@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the October 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER, October 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 10 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: Imagine you are 70,000 feet up, wearing a mercury spacesuit, while sitting in a WWII bomber that has been modified with glider wings as you fly through the dust of a recent atomic bomb blast. Or imagine you are working on flying laser weapons to shoot down ICBMs. I could not have imagined anything like that until our September speaker USAF Colonel (retired) John Carney took us all there. For those that missed that meeting you missed a good one. Many thanks to John for dropping by and sharing so many great stories about his long career in aviation. This month our program will focus on current state and local aviation from a government perspective. We will hear from Susan Palmeri, Bend Airport Manager, on the KBDN construction and airport news in general. Then we have Ms. Nan Garnick, the new owner-operator of Redmond based Butler Aircraft, and the newest Oregon Aviation Board member, as our main speaker. If you have any questions about airport operations in the state or in Bend then bring them to this month's meeting. As always pilots flock in to the Bend Flight Services building for aviation chatter around 6pm for hanger flying, dig in to our scrumptious pot-luck at 6:30pm and settle in for our (in)formal meeting at 7pm. Calendar: 20 November - Monthly Meeting 22 November - Monthly Flyout 18 December - Monthly Meeting & Holiday Party 20 December - Monthly Flyout 15 January - Monthly Flyout 17 January - Monthly Flyout 19 February - Monthly Flyout 21 February - Monthly Flyout Web doings: You can always get the newest CO-OPA newsletter on our website at http://co-opa.com. There are also archived newsletters going way back. To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". There you can find the membership roster if you are looking to track down a fellow CO-OPA member. Random Thoughts: Andy Rooney on 60 minutes just did a bit on how everything is so much more expensive than when he was young. Hard to believe he was ever young, but I think I once was, and I think he has a point. With that in mind I did some checking up on the history of some prices. Gasoline gets a lot of blame these days. How has that price changed? In 1955 a gallon of mogas cost just $0.29. By 1969 that had only increased to $0.35, a mere 20% increase. Earlier this year gas prices peaked at around $4.60, a 15x increase from 1955. Sure gas has gone up, but you also need an airplane to put it in. Let's look at the stalwart Cessna 172. The 172 was introduced in 1955 at a base price of about $9K. By 1969 the cost had increased to $12.5k. The Cessna web site now lists a 'typical' 172S at about $283k. They do not list a base price but it would seem to be around $220k. I am sure it carries a little more load, goes a little faster, and has a much cooler panel but there is a real jump there! A 24.4x price increase since 1955. How does that compare to other transportation options over the same time? A basic 1955 Cadillac sedan cost about $4k. In 1969 a basic Caddy increased to $5.4k, about the same increase as the 172 over the same time frame. Now a basic new Cadillac starts at $37k, a 9.2x increase since 1955. Once a small airplane cost a bit over twice as a basic luxury car, now it costs six times as much. Both are safer and smarter looking. When you look at running that car the gas mileage is a lot better then 1955, but the gas mileage in the airplane is about the same. No wonder there are fewer pilots these days ? relative to other expenses, flying really has become more expensive. Since most of us never manage to save any money, what really matters is how much our favorite hobby costs relative to a year's wages. In 1955 the median wage was about $4.4k, so an airplane cost an average wage earner about 2 years salary. In 1969 the median was $9.5k meaning that 172 then cost about 16 months salary. Sadly 2008 income will be around $50.5k meaning a new 172 now costs about 4.4 times a yearly salary. That surely gets worse when using after tax incomes. The good news is that, adjusted for wages, gas has hardly gone up at all and the Caddy has actually gotten a tad less expensive. It now becomes fairly clear why we have fewer new pilots than in years past; flying has just become relatively more expensive than wages and other expenses. Clearly what this world needs is a good, inexpensive airplane. Maybe the new Light Sport Aircraft category can fill the bill. Gary Miller How I came to aviation. by Ed Endsley My freshman year of high school was rather rocky. I wasn't a jock and that was what was required in my neighborhood to be popular and "included in all the reindeer games." But like, Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer, my pursuits tended to be more of the nerdy variety and when I discovered chemistry I was in heaven. It's lucky I didn't wind up in heaven or the other place. When I got kicked out of class for some unauthorized "experiments" I turned to some private academic explorations. And that's what led me to a rather disastrous episode that resulted in my banishment from formal education entirely. The unfortunate incident involved a rather unstable compound that was quite explosive and had the unique characteristic of being based on Iodine and nitrogen so when it blew up my locker it left bright purple stains all over the place. Not to mention the physical damage for some distance around. Now that was spectacular enough that the parents of the kid that slammed his locker door that set off the explosion got rather testy and I thought I was going to have to hide out until things cooled off. Literally. I don't think I would have been expelled for that alone except for the situation about buying the teacher's edition of the textbooks that had the quiz answers in the back. But all these things together got me an audience with the superintendent and by mutual agreement it seemed best if I continued my education elsewhere. Then they fired my mother who was a teacher in the same district. The consequences of my emerging adventures were beginning to reverberate. Fortunately the local airport manager had made a presentation at an assembly and I was enthralled with the idea of flying the real thing. Balsa was nice and the models on my ceiling were intriguing but the thought of really flying was attractive. I couldn't drive yet but I could fly! So now that I was technically a truant, I would ride my bike out to the airport and fly anywhere I wanted. Which I might add that on one occasion was to fly to Seattle and land a Piper Colt at SEA-TAC after a long-long straight in to 34R. Departure was kind of cool, out over the Olympics, except for that little encounter over McChord AFB. Then there was the toilet papering of the high school. I don't think anyone had done it from a thousand feet. The really cool part was getting it through the goal posts. There was a lot of conjecture about how it got across the roof of the gymnasium. Pieces of it stayed there until my classmates graduated while I was laying rubber in the parking lot during Pomp and Circumstance ?. a suitable accompaniment to celebrate the quality of education I received there ?. I'm forever thankful. I would probably have gotten away with the off field landings if they hadn't thoughtfully painted those huge registration numbers on the side of the aircraft. I couldn't understand why someone wouldn't be thrilled at having a plane land in their fields. The FBO manager landed pretty hard about that one. It's a good thing he didn't know about the others but I was still grounded during the reparations period. Perhaps some of my sweetest early aviation memories involve rock and roll. There wasn't anything quite as sublime as tuning the LF radio to KGON and cranking up the Supremes while cruising up and down the canyons south of town. Cuttin' sixty degree banked seven-twenty cookies in the canyons and buzzing cows was nice accompaniment to the sixties rock. This was long before headsets and rock & roll has never sounded the same since. Of course I don't play it on a three-inch comm. speaker anymore either. I blew my cover on the R&R rides when subsequent pilots nearly blew themselves out of the plane during startup. It appears that not everyone shared my taste in music over navigation. My early aviation experiences were influenced by my teenage sensibilities, or perhaps the lack of any conventional sensibilities. But I'm sure you've never had impulsive tendencies. At least at the time I had teenage reflexes, which I hate to admit, seem to have abated and abandoned me to some degree. So doesn't that mean I'm supposed to have acquired experience and wisdom??? So what I'm wondering is, when does the wisdom part kick in? Ed Endsley P.S. I'm starting to get senior citizen discounts now, except on AVGAS. --------------------------------------------------------- The 'Original Flapjack' There has been a fascination within the aviation community with unusual aircraft designs. One of these, with Oregon connections, was the Joy JX-5 'flapjack'. Development started in 1933, but it first appeared in 1937 at Vancouver's Pearson Field. The -5 suggests it was not the first model developed but it seems to be the first and the last by manufacturer Joy Aircraft of Portland. Looking at the location of the two 38hp Salmson AD-9 engines makes one wonder if Bernoulli was part of the Joy brothers' reading ? but I digress ? The first to actually fly this odd new plane was Portland 'aviator and daredevil' Danny Greco. On August 4, 1937, Greco was able to get the plane off the ground but it refused to bank and turn, resulting in a forced landing. The second and final flight, in 1938, didn't make it past the barbed-wire fence at the end of the airport ??... I wonder what unlicensed really meant? Did it help you mingle with the spectators and say "Who, me?" (you have to see the second picture in the PDF newsletter to understand this) COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 109 NW Wilmington Ave Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President --------OPEN---------- Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu Oct 16 13:03:53 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:03:53 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport help needed Message-ID: <48F79E29.5020201@spiritone.com> Following are the essentials details of an email sent to West Coast EAA chapters by Dennis Douglas, founder of our local chapter, EAA1345: "We are under attack by the City Council. The issue is hangar rent. The City-owned T-hangars here in Bend rent for between $165/mo for the very old to $300/mo for the newer ones. These are basic T-hangars with no heating, no insulation, no water. The lease agreement with the City provides for periodic rent increases, but does not specify the amount of the increase nor the basis of the increase. (The large hangars have a lease increase based on the CPI.) The current ground lease cost for new construction at the airport is $0.31/ sq. ft. At a City Council Work Session on 10/15/08, the airport manager proposed raising the rents on the hangars by 3%, noting that it has been several years since the rent was last increased. I think it has been about 2 1/2 years. In the discussion it was noted that there are 44 people on the hangar waiting list. Two of the City Council members suggested that the rents should be doubled or even more, to drive out those people who are getting "cheap" storage and make way for those willing and able to pay. While no resolution was put forward to actually double the rent (or even greater), the Council members seemed to be in agreement that the rent needed to be raised by a huge amount. The effect of such an increase would be crushing to most of us who have our small planes in the City hangars and have already been affected by the huge increase in fuel costs. We need help in gathering representative data regarding hangar rents and ground lease costs at other airports. We want to keep the focus on basic T-hangars. We need to know: 1) the range of monthly rental costs for hangars at your airport and those near you, and 2) the cost of a ground lease at these airports. Please identify the airport in your data. I suspect the matter may come before the Council again around Tuesday 10/21/08." Mike Bond Editor of EAA1345 and COOPA Newsletter From kmuinch at hotmail.com Thu Oct 16 14:12:32 2008 From: kmuinch at hotmail.com (Kim Muinch) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:12:32 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport help needed In-Reply-To: <48F79E29.5020201@spiritone.com> References: <48F79E29.5020201@spiritone.com> Message-ID: I am one of those 46 people on the waiting list. I moved here to Bend a year ago, and I had a hangar down in SoCal at the Camarillo Airport (KCMA), which is operated by the County of ventura. I paid $258 per month for a green t hangar that was one size bigger than the smallest ones that were made. It would easily old a twin. they had the smaller ones, but I am not sure of the price. Perhaps $230. It was just a hangar, placed on asphalt. No utilities, even electricity. They audit the hangars periodically to make sure people have planes in them, so they don't become storage lockers. They require the tenant to provide proof of insurance, as that is a good way of determining that the person paying rent actually owns a plane. They raise the rent most every year, at about the cost of inflation. I would like to know the names of the two council members, so I can write them a letter of protest, and suggest that they follow the County of Ventura's example which serves everyone's interests. Kim Muinch(541) 848-3600> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:03:53 -0700> From: mvbond at spiritone.com> To: co-opa at rellim.com> Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport help needed> > Following are the essentials details of an email sent to West Coast EAA > chapters by> Dennis Douglas, founder of our local chapter, EAA1345:> > "We are under attack by the City Council. The issue is hangar rent.> The City-owned T-hangars here in Bend rent for between $165/mo for the > very old> to $300/mo for the newer ones. These are basic T-hangars with no > heating, no insulation,> no water. The lease agreement with the City provides for periodic rent > increases, but> does not specify the amount of the increase nor the basis of the increase. > (The large hangars have a lease increase based on the CPI.) > The current ground lease cost for new construction at the airport is > $0.31/ sq. ft. > > At a City Council Work Session on 10/15/08, the airport manager proposed > raising the> rents on the hangars by 3%, noting that it has been several years since > the rent was last> increased. I think it has been about 2 1/2 years. In the discussion it > was noted that there> are 44 people on the hangar waiting list. Two of the City Council > members suggested> that the rents should be doubled or even more, to drive out those people > who are getting> "cheap" storage and make way for those willing and able to pay. While > no resolution> was put forward to actually double the rent (or even greater), the > Council members> seemed to be in agreement that the rent needed to be raised by a huge > amount.> > The effect of such an increase would be crushing to most of us who have > our small planes> in the City hangars and have already been affected by the huge increase > in fuel costs. > We need help in gathering representative data regarding hangar rents > and ground lease> costs at other airports. We want to keep the focus on basic T-hangars. > > We need to know:> 1) the range of monthly rental costs for hangars at your airport and > those near you, and> 2) the cost of a ground lease at these airports. Please identify the > airport in your data.> I suspect the matter may come before the Council again around Tuesday > 10/21/08."> > Mike Bond> Editor of EAA1345 and COOPA Newsletter> > > _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From gem at rellim.com Fri Oct 17 12:12:38 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out this Saturday to Madras Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This Saturday's Fly-out will be all the way to Madras (S33). The Central Oregon 99s will be painting a large compass rose up there then. A few intrepid souls will arrive up there just before 8am, but the main festivities will start around 10am. So that we can be on hand to properly supervise their work lets all bring our compasses to the Bend Flight Services building at 8:30am and work to be in the air around 9am. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI+OOpBmnRqz71OvMRAn2oAKCkQveHP3m0GNsnqLuoWYcM5uwDLACfZ4oX OkN0FX2NsKnOHhtFadyyQbs= =8ESr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Oct 17 18:09:37 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Sticking to a plan is always hard. Seems that the 99s will not be painting at Madras this Saturday, but they will still meet up there at 11am for a lunch. In worse news, Ann Bond is not feeling well, so the Bonds will not be making the trip after all. Get well soon Ann! That leaves one plane confirmed to go, mine. With the new schedule I'll be at the Bend Flight Services building at 9:30am planning to leave by 10am. I still have 2 seats if anyone wants to sit in. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFI+TdTBmnRqz71OvMRAuzDAKDcnxK5mht+NSx6KddLjJ8TyRSbbQCgtroB Y0pYmBuedg9/uGCrbwUgR9o= =VYZa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From steve_magidson at consultant.com Fri Oct 17 23:01:50 2008 From: steve_magidson at consultant.com (Steve Magidson) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5411ac100810172301s271f3e9fr2f32b9e8883ea4fd@mail.gmail.com> Cynde and I are planning to fly to Madras (weather permitting). We should be getting there "around" 10:30. Cheers, Steve & Cynde On 10/17/08, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > Sticking to a plan is always hard. Seems that the 99s will not be > painting at Madras this Saturday, but they will still meet up there > at 11am for a lunch. > > In worse news, Ann Bond is not feeling well, so the Bonds will not > be making the trip after all. Get well soon Ann! > > That leaves one plane confirmed to go, mine. With the new schedule > I'll be at the Bend Flight Services building at 9:30am planning to > leave by 10am. I still have 2 seats if anyone wants to sit in. > > RGDS > GARY > - > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFI+TdTBmnRqz71OvMRAuzDAKDcnxK5mht+NSx6KddLjJ8TyRSbbQCgtroB > Y0pYmBuedg9/uGCrbwUgR9o= > =VYZa > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > From wilfong.d at gmail.com Thu Oct 23 12:10:56 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:10:56 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: IDAHO'S BIG CR. LODGE BURNS In-Reply-To: <6070c9830810231208y31a1fd22n775f69ce1e25261b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6070c9830810231208y31a1fd22n775f69ce1e25261b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6070c9830810231210o4ce7f9a0k8b8982da1af7b90d@mail.gmail.com> SAD TO SEE IT GO.......WE HAVE STAYED THERE BEFORE........WAS A REAL TREASURE.........DON WILFONG ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Don Wilfong Date: Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:08 PM Subject: IDAHO'S BIG CR. LODGE BURNS To: Don Wilfong Historic Big Creek Lodge in Payette National Forest destroyed by fire [image: Previous Image Story] 1/3 [image: Next Image Story] Photo courtesy LA Gordon of Yellow Pine The main lodge, the bunk house and an out building burned to the ground at Big Creek Lodge in the Payette National Forest. The owners were out of state Wednesday. Caretakers who were getting ready to close the facility for the winter tried to put out the fire. Photo courtesy LA Gordon of Yellow Pine Little remains of the Big Creek Lodge after a fire destroyed the main building and two other buildings on the property. Statesman file photo This 1998 photo shows Big Creek Lodge as a popular place for winter activities. Big Creek owners open the facility to customers from May until November and the web site said there were plans to reopen the facility for snowmobiling and other popular winter activities. Three buildings, including the main lodge, were destroyed in a fire Wednesday. ELSEWHERE - Big Creek Lodge Historic Big Creek Lodge, located in the Payette National Forest about 25 miles from Yellow Pine, burned down Wednesday, according to Yellow Pine resident L.A. Gordon. No one was injured in the fire, Gordon said. The lodge's two caretakers, who were getting ready to close the lodge for the winter, tried to put out the flames with fire extinguishers but that didn't work, he said. The fire started around 11 a.m., Gordon said. He arrived at the lodge at 7 p.m. and when he left around 8 p.m. it was still smoldering, he said. "You could hear this bam, bam, like grenades," Gordon said. "It was the canned goods in the kitchen heating up." The main lodge, the bunk house and a side building were destroyed, he said. Lodge owners Scott and Trudy Fodor weren't in Big Creek Wednesday, Gordon said. It is unclear which agency will investigate the fire. The lodge operates under 20-year special-use permit from the U.S. Forest Service, according to its Web site. "Yellow Pine is just sick," said Vicki Martineau, who owns Yellow Pine Corner Bar. "There is so much history in that building that went up in smoke." destroyed by fire From dwnw at bendbroadband.com Tue Sep 30 10:14:27 2008 From: dwnw at bendbroadband.com (Wilfong) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:14:27 -0000 Subject: [Co-opa] E-MAIL ADDRESS CHANGE Message-ID: FRIENDS........ THE E-MAIL ADDRESS dwnw at bendbroadband WILL SOON BE ELIMINATED....... MY NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS IS wilfong.d at gmail.com PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF IT AND START USING IT IMMEDIATLY..... THIS ADDRESS WILL WORK FOR BOTH NORMA AND MYSELF... THANKS........ DON WILFONG From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Thu Oct 23 12:26:24 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:26:24 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Airport Hangar Issues Message-ID: Hi Sue, It was a pleasure to meet you last week at the CO-OPA meeting. As you know from our discussion, and I am sure from discussions that you have had with other airport tenants, the issues relating to the use of airport hangars and airport hangar rent are of enormous concern. I know that all airport tenants would like to be kept informed about any future developments with respect top these issues. Will you please keep all airport tenants advised with respect to these issues as well as when and how these issues will again be addressed by the Bend City Council? Given the current economic climate, I do not think any hangar rent increase is appropriate. But the idea expressed at the Bend City Council meeting that rents should be "doubled" because a few hangar tenants are apparently using hangars to store motor homes, automobiles, boats, and similar large items is not appropriate. That would be a disaster for all airport tenants and would be very damaging to the Bend Airport. If there is a problem with some airport tenants using hangars in a manner that prevents them from being used for their intended purpose -- aircraft storage -- then that problem should be addressed in an appropriate manner by some reasonable restrictions on the use of hangars. Storing a few non-aviation items in a hangar that is being used primarily for aircraft storage should not be a big problem. But in any event, raising rents to drive the average aircraft owners from the airport to solve the problems relating to the non-aviation use of hangars would be outrage ous. I look forward to discussing this matter with you further. Thank you. Michael Adler From gem at rellim.com Thu Oct 23 16:42:56 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Fw: Bend Airport Construction Update (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This good news just in from Susan Palmeri, our Bend Airport Manager. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:38:10 -0700 From: tshepherd at ci.bend.or.us To: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us Subject: Fw: Bend Airport Construction Update Bend Airport Tenants and Users: I am pleased to share with you that tonight will be our last scheduled nighttime closure for the runway project. ? At 6 am Friday October 24 (local) the Bend Airport will reopen and will be open 24 hours a day 7 days a week. ? We still have some more work to do on the project but the work will be done during the day and should not impact flight activities. ? Thank you again for your patience and support, ?Sue Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJAQwDBmnRqz71OvMRAh3pAKDFvJ6wJaVPRwm/TrpNUAol7JuBqACeNpiP JyB5dKLY4/tUfzjaLKDhCEE= =uJll -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Mon Oct 27 12:06:38 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport Issues (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from Dennis Douglas at the local EAA chapter. A bit surprising this is the first I have heard of this... RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- All, I am sending this to the presidents of the local pilot organizations for information and consideration.? As the City develops the new Airport Master Plan over the next year or so, I think it is extremely important that our pilot groups be keenly involved in, and contribute to, the process.? I urge you to review the text below, download the AC, research the information and related items on your own, discuss the issues with your members, and bring the consensus from those discussions to the City during the Plan process.? This is the only way we can be a part of shaping our airport. Regards, Dennis Douglas B-II to C-II Designation Change.? The November 2008 issue before the City Council is whether or not to suspend development on the west side of the airport until the Airport Master Plan is complete in (perhaps) 18-months or so.? The Council will likely agree to that.? One of the key issues at the end of the 12-18 month planning process is that the Master Plan may designate the Bend Airport a C-II airport, upgrading its status from its current B-II status.? But before that decision is made, our pilot groups should understand what a C-II airport is, and what it entails for future requirements.? Our local pilot groups should have an informed opinion, and express that opinion, on this issue. Airports are designed to standards given in an FAA Advisory Circular, entitled ?Airport Design? (AC 150/5300-13), a 324-page document[1].? In AC 150/5300-13, airports are designated in terms of a letter-Roman numeral code according to the aircraft that use the runway(s).? The letter refers to the approach speed of the aircraft using the runway(s) and the Roman numeral refers to the wing span and the tail height of the aircraft using the runway(s).? A Category ?B-II? airport is one that has one or more runways to accommodate aircraft with approach speeds up to 120 knots (138 mph) and wingspans of up to 78 feet and tail heights of less than 30-feet.? A Category C-II airport is one than accommodates aircraft with approach speeds up to 140 knots (161 mph) with the same dimensions.? Thus, higher-designated airports are used by faster and larger aircraft.? Most aircraft with approach speeds of more than 110 knots are jets.? Aircraft with approach speeds of 120-140 knots and wing spans up to 78 feet are bigger and heavier jets.? But most of the aircraft that use the Bend Airport are smaller, single-engine aircraft with approach speeds in the 60-80 knot (69-103 mph) range and wing spans of 36 to 45 feet.? (An ?A-I? airport would meet the need for most of these aircraft.)? So a B-II airport designation is entirely adequate for the vast majority of the planes now using KBDN. ? A change from Category B-II to C-II has many implications for the City.? - - Runway Width: an airport that meets the C-II requirements has a runway that is 100-feet wide (see the AC).? Bend?s (brand new) runway is 75-feet wide.? Thus, to be C-II, the runway will have to be widened.? A lot of money and time was spent on the newly completed runway, and you will certainly recall the noise issues related to that.? Do you want to go through that again?? - -Runway Length: to accommodate the faster and heavier aircraft the runway _may_ need to be lengthened?if so, more construction; more noise complaints, more money. - -Safety: The Airport Manager says the C-II designation is needed for safety.? This has nothing to do with a tower or traffic patterns or anything like that.? Sue says that it is safer if there is more set-back from the runway centerline; the C-II increases this set-back.? The 10 hangars near the compass rose would be within the no-build line of the C-II designation and thus would have to "go" when their lease expires.? Is that OK, or would you like to see more hangars built on the west side??? Question: is the Bend Airport "safe enough" insofar as the building set-backs are concerned?? Musing: if more safety is better, let's change the speed limit in school zones from 20mph to 5 mph; surely the kids would be safer.? A tower would make KBDN safer, perhaps, but does increasing the set-back really do anything in that regard? - -Growth of the Airport: the question is, how much beyond its current scope do you want the airport to grow?? What are the advantages and disadvantages of additional growth?? What do our pilot organizations want to see at the airport? - -About those C-II Airplanes:? Why can?t C-II aircraft simply land at the Redmond Airport?? And, as one Counsellor asked on October 15th, is encouraging C-II aircraft to land at Bend ? a tail wagging the dog? which will lead to bigger and bigger airplanes and never-ending expansion of the airport? Dennis Douglas [1]http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/airports/resources/advisory_circulars/med ia/150-5300-13/150_5300_13.pdf -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJBhFBBmnRqz71OvMRAniqAKCXaSxnLEEsCH+RRtk5ZbuQkPgdTgCgnFXO pCCJA09JPYv+46lH12q7xr4= =b2JC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wilfong.d at gmail.com Wed Oct 29 19:46:13 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:46:13 -0700 Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: All Pilots Must Watch This! In-Reply-To: <1E76F9CAFC7B430F8FDD77EC20013232@your27e1513d96> References: <1E76F9CAFC7B430F8FDD77EC20013232@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <6070c9830810291946l1492e10al667706ceb4dd20fb@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: All Pilots Must Watch This! To: Undisclosed-Recipient This is truly amazing!! Now here is a fellow that 'keeps his cool'...............It ain't over till the prop stops......................... OK, this has to be the best or at least luckiest pilot in the world. *http://www.chilloutzone.de/files/08102703.html* ------------------------------ ------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1755 - Release Date: 10/29/2008 5:27 PM From catacres at webformixair.com Mon Nov 3 05:35:21 2008 From: catacres at webformixair.com (Richard/Debbie Benson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 05:35:21 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video Message-ID: <002201c93db9$04f1a840$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> Greetings Fellow Pilots, This is truly an amazing recovery from an emergency... Don't try this at home kids !!!!!!!!!! If it doesn't work by clicking on it, copy and paste it into your browser Happy Trails, Richard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ From pfking at webmail.us Mon Nov 3 07:07:20 2008 From: pfking at webmail.us (Peter King) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:07:20 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video In-Reply-To: <002201c93db9$04f1a840$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> References: <002201c93db9$04f1a840$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> Message-ID: <00bc01c93dc5$df1a1550$9d4e3ff0$@us> Computer-generated, but fun nonetheless. It's a viral ad for killa thrilla. Here's a real in-flight emergency (if you haven't seen it). A prop disintegrated during testing at the Reno Air Races. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0txEC0Rhdg Peter King CFI-I, MEI Cirrus Standardized Instructor Columbia Factory Instructor Beechcraft too! -----Original Message----- From: co-opa-bounces at rellim.com [mailto:co-opa-bounces at rellim.com] On Behalf Of Richard/Debbie Benson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:35 AM To: Opa List Subject: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video Greetings Fellow Pilots, This is truly an amazing recovery from an emergency... Don't try this at home kids !!!!!!!!!! If it doesn't work by clicking on it, copy and paste it into your browser Happy Trails, Richard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From ed at edendsley.com Tue Nov 18 09:33:39 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:33:39 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Special Aviation Program Announcement: Message-ID: Special Aviation Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, November 20, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building (The Professional Air Offices, http://www.proairservices.com/) at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Cessna instructor and test pilot, Mr. Eddie Bevan, will share his many experiences in aviation with us. Mr. Bevan has taught at the University of North Dakota and performed flight duties with Colombia Aircraft before joining Cessna. http://www.cessna.com/ Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com From wilfong.d at gmail.com Tue Nov 18 14:23:46 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:23:46 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] OUR ANNUAL XMAS CHARITY PROGRAM Message-ID: <6070c9830811181423j74a6ba04p7ecb7292d0342b8d@mail.gmail.com> HEY GANG.........WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THURS EVE FOR THE POTLUCK/MEETING/PROGRAM..........WE HAVE BEEN DOING A CHARITY PROGRAM FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHERE OUR MEMBERS DONATE CASH AND IN COOPERATION WITH SOME OF THE TEACHERS AT PILOT BUTTE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE PROVIDE A CHRISTMAS FOR ONE OR MORE NEEDY AND DESERVING CHILD. THE TEACHERS ARE THE ONES THAT CHOOSE THE CHILD AND DO THE SHOPPING. MOST OF THE GIFTS ARE FOR CLOTHS AND ESENTIALS WITH A FUN GIFT OR TWO. WE WILL MAKE A DECISION THURS. EVE AS TO WHETHER WE WISH TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM AND IF SO WE WILL BE ASKING OUR MEMBERS TO GIVE SHARE A LITTLE WITH SOMEONE WHO NEEDS AND DESERVES A LITTLE HELP. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THURS. EVE. DON & NORMA WILFONG NOTE: NORMA HAS CHAIRED THIS PROGRAM IN THE PAST AND IS WILLING TO DO SO AGAIN. From mvbond at spiritone.com Wed Nov 19 15:41:29 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:41:29 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA November 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <4924A429.6030209@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the November 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER, November 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 11 Website: http://co-opa.com/ President's Message: We had a great meeting in October with Nan Garnick from Butler Aircraft and Susan Palmeri our Bend Airport manager as speakers. Nan has worked a long time at Butler but had to admit that recently earning her Private Pilots license opened her eyes much more than she imagined. It takes a brave pilot to admit getting lost on your long cross country and we were there to welcome Nan into the ranks of pilots. She only passed her check ride that Monday. Also many thanks to Susan for dropping buy and filling us in on the management side of the airport. The last two summers have been trying times due to the construction at the Bend Airport but the results have been well worth it and Susan deserves our thanks for helping move that along. The bad news is that the vagaries of FAA funding may mean that the planned east side taxiway may not get funded for 2009. Be sure to clear you calendars for our world famous holiday party on December 18th. I expect another great time will be had by all when we meet again around the airport Christmas tree. Calendar: 20 November - Monthly Meeting & Potluck 22 November - Monthly Flyout 18 December - Monthly Meeting & Holiday Party 20 December - Monthly Flyout 15 January - Monthly Flyout 17 January - Monthly Flyout 19 February - Monthly Flyout 21 February - Monthly Flyout 19 March - Monthly Flyout 21 March - Monthly Flyout My Inbox: There's no place like home. Dorothy famously said that a long time ago, but the principle applied long before, and long after, the famous balloon trip to Oz. Epic is rediscovering the old adage. Epic started in Bend a few years ago and after designing a few new airplane types locally they decided to move certified production to Canada. After a few go arounds in the great white north the grass no longer looked greener in Ontario. Soon Georgia was on their mind. Not the Georgia in the new south, but the former Soviet Union one. They even sent over a prototype aircraft to see if the locals at Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing (TAM) over there wanted to try their hand at building the speedy craft. The prototype is still there, but the contract is off, after Russia bombed the Tbilisi airfield. Seems that they had a little war over there during the Olympics. Now the Bend Bulletin and the local TV stations are reporting that there really is no place like home. Epic plans to once again build and certify their new aircraft here in Bend. We welcome them back even though they never really left. Web doings: The Central Oregon 99s have been busy. They are working at turbo charging the venerable Palms To Pines for 2009. You can check their ongoing efforts on their new website: http://palmstopines.org/tiki-index.php Also of note is their Holiday Party at Cafe 3456 on December 6th. You can snag a copy of their flyer off the CO-OPA home page at http://co-opa.com Ed Note: The flyer is also at the end of this newsletter To access the members-only areas, the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". There you can find the membership roster if you are looking to track down a fellow CO-OPA member. Random Thoughts: Nan was brave enough to share her story of getting lost on her cross-country to John Day airport. With her shining example it is probably time to bare my soul about my student pilot misadventure. When my flight training began, my primary instructor made it very clear to me that during my training he was the experienced instructor, he was the pilot in command and that no matter how unsure I may feel that I should follow his instructions. This allowed me to worry about learning how to complete each flight exercise without worrying about bending the airplane due to my total lack of experience flying a machine in three dimensions. Initially this was a good teaching technique. Placing the burdens of PIC on my totally ignorant head would have been silly and likely led to any of a multitude of bad outcomes. Being totally ignorant at first, and knowing my CFI was really the man in charge, I was very happy to go through the motions of flight planning and pre- flights knowing that as I inevitably missed things that he would gently correct me and ensure ultimately happy outcomes. Even on that big day, the day I soloed, my instructor was clearly in charge. Sure I went around the pattern three times that day as the only occupant of the aircraft and sole manipulator of the controls, but he was there for the pre-flight, for the first few practices trips around the pattern and on the radio during that momentous event. I had learned to be a good student, but not yet what I really needed to know; how to be the Pilot In Command. That would come very abruptly one day, and when I had both feet firmly on the ground. After my solo, my CFI had begun to nag me more and more. Planning counts and all the bases must be covered. Even if your plans were just changed in mid air, due to unforeseen conditions, he felt that soon he would not be there to stop me from making a mistake. I needed to step up, grasp the totality of piloting and be sure that I stayed aware of all the factors of flight at all times, no longer focusing on just the lesson plan goal. How little did he know how soon I would get the message. Soon there came a spectacular CAVU day at Reed Hillview airport. After a thorough briefing and planning session with the instructor I was signed off to practice solo touch and goes in the crowded pattern. I was off to sample nirvana at 1,000 AGL. Life was good. At the end of my scheduled time I taxied back to the ramp and shutdown the aircraft. While turning in the keys at the dispatch desk I found out the next renter had canceled. The desk clerk said I could have the bouncy 152 for another hour if I wished. Boy, did I wish. In minutes I was back in the aircraft and back in the pattern. Around and around and around. Trying to get that perfect square pattern, that perfect glide slope, that perfect full stall landing. Around and around. --- Heaven on earth --- or close to it. Soon my unexpected hour was up and it was time to park the flying go-cart, call the fuel truck and turn in the keys. Back in the pilots lounge I was walking on air. Students not quite up to my total time wanted to know how it felt. Other students getting ready to go out wanted to know how the wind was affecting the flying conditions. Then a perfectly normal thing happened, the line driver walked in with the fuel totals. Not that I cared too much as the rentals were wet, but I bent an ear to listen in. "I just put 27 gallons in the 26 gallon fuel tank of that 152. Do you know who just returned it?" My ears turned a bright red. My stomach turned over like during my first stall. Everyone in the room turned and briefly looked at me, but not another word was ever said about the subject. Like the Grinch the day his heart grew three sizes, I grew a massive amount as a pilot at that moment. I understood all at once that I had come unreasonably close to a bad outcome and that in the future the only humans ensuring safe operation of an aircraft I was piloting was me, myself, and I. My instructor had given me wings, but now I had been kicked out of the nest. I understood that no matter how much I had planned a flight, that when anything changed I needed re-plan everything. Specifically I understood which person really needed to watch the gas gauge. One way or another it is a lesson in self-determination that all pilots learn early on. As far as I know I've never come that close to damaging an airplane since. I plan to keep it that way. Then again, maybe I have, but I was not lucky enough to have someone spot my complacency. Gary Miller Special Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, November 20, 2008, Central Oregon ? Oregon Pilots Assoc. meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building (The Professional Air Offices, http://www.proairservices.com/) at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Cessna instructor and test pilot, Mr. Eddie Bevan, will share his many experiences in aviation with us. Mr. Bevan has taught at the University of North Dakota and performed flight duties with Colombia Aircraft before joining Cessna. http://www.cessna.com/ Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! http://co-opa.com Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com ANNUAL XMAS CHARITY PROGRAM HEY GANG ....... WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THURS EVE FOR THE POTLUCK /MEETING/PROGRAM .......... WE HAVE BEEN DOING A CHARITY PROGRAM FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHERE OUR MEMBERS DONATE CASH AND IN COOPERATION WITH SOME OF THE TEACHERS AT PILOT BUTTE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE PROVIDE A CHRISTMAS FOR ONE OR MORE NEEDY AND DESERVING CHILD. THE TEACHERS ARE THE ONES THAT CHOOSE THE CHILD AND DO THE SHOPPING. MOST OF THE GIFTS ARE FOR CLOTHS AND ESSENTIALS WITH A FUN GIFT OR TWO. WE WILL MAKE A DECISION THURS. EVE AS TO WHETHER WE WISH TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM AND IF SO WE WILL BE ASKING OUR MEMBERS TO GIVE SHARE A LITTLE WITH SOMEONE WHO NEEDS AND DESERVES A LITTLE HELP. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THURS. EVE. DON & NORMA WILFONG NOTE: NORMA HAS CHAIRED THIS PROGRAM IN THE AND IS WILLING TO DO SO AGAIN. Roadable airplane may fly next month Terrafugia CEO/CTO Carl Dietrich reported that the first Transition roadable airplane might fly in early December. If it doesn't fly by mid-December, the first flight will likely be postponed until early 2009. The vehicle (Is it a car or an airplane?) has been driving around on its own power for several weeks and, more recently, is undergoing taxi tests and tests to validate the flight control effectiveness. Static load testing is complete. Reno from the pylon perspective By Mike Collins, AOPA on-line One of the most unique perspectives on the National Championship Air Races in Reno, Nevada ? second only to that of the race pilots themselves ? is from the base of the pylons that mark turn points on the course. Contributor Robert Fisher shares that experience with this audio slideshow produced exclusively for AOPA Online. Bill "Tiger" Destefani of Bakersfield, Calif., won the Unlimited Breitling Gold race Sept. 14 in his P-51 Mustang Strega, with a speed of 483 miles per hour. Dan Vance of Santa Rosa, Calif., captured the Unlimited Silver with his Hawker Sea Fury September Pops, and Will Whiteside of Windsor, Calif., took the Unlimited Bronze flying Voodoo, a P-51. In the T-6 class, Ken Dwelle of Auburn, Calif., won the gold?and set a class record?in Tinkertoy with a speed of 244.523 mph. John Sharp of Mojave, Calif, won the Super Sport Gold in his NXT, Nemesis, with a speed of 392 mph. Tom Aberle of Fallbrook, Calif, won the Biplane Gold competition. Steve Senegal of San Bruno, Calif., captured Formula One Gold honors, and Curt Brown of Hudson, Wis., was the Jet Gold Race winner. THERE IS A MORAL HERE! A C-130 was lumbering along when a cocky F- 16 flashed by. The jet jockey decided to show off. The fighter jock told the C-130 pilot, 'watch this!' and promptly went into a barrel roll followed by a steep climb. He then finished with a sonic boom as he broke the sound barrier. The F-16 pilot asked the C-130 pilot what he thought of that? The C-130 pilot said, 'That was impressive, but watch this!' The C-130 droned along for about 5 minutes and then the C-130 pilot came back on and said: 'What did you think of that?' Puzzled, the F-16 pilot asked, 'What the heck did you do?' The C-130 pilot chuckled. 'I stood up, stretched my legs, walked to the back, went to the bathroom, then got a cup of coffee and a cinnamon bun.' When you are young & foolish - speed & flash may seem a good thing !!! When you get older & smarter - comfort & dull is not such a bad thing !!! Us 'older' folks understand this one. COLD WEATHER INFLIGHT HAZARDS AND TIPS By: Dave VanDenburg EAA Chapter 439 (Michigan) I would like to review cold weather operations by discussing some in-flight hazards and tips applicable in the winter months. Probably the first in-flight hazard that comes to mind when we think about winter is icing. I have flown combat aircraft in a lot of areas of the world, and short of actual combat, only two things scare me in an aircraft. One is thunderstorms (which we don't see much of in the winter) and icing, which we do. If you see ice build up on your windshield or wings, change altitude or find clear air quickly. Don't be afraid to use the "E" word (emergency) to get whatever help is available from ARTCC. If you experience a reduction in RPM (fixed pitch prop) or a reduction in manifold pressure (constant speed prop) suspect induction system icing. This could be carb ice or impact ice on your air filter. If you think you are experiencing induction system icing, apply full carb heat or select alternate air. If you have carb ice, the engine will probably run rougher (as the ice melts) but will clear up soon. I do not recommend using partial carb heat unless you have a carb air temp gauge. Partial heat may increase the carb ice problems. If you are flying behind a constant speed prop, cycle it every 30 minutes or so to keep warm oil in the dome. A sluggish pitch change mechanism could be slow to react and result in an engine overspeed during a rapid power application. This could be real expensive (and dangerous). Switch fuel tanks with plenty of fuel remaining in the tank. If you have a frozen valve and cannot select the full tank, you will still have enough fuel to land safely. If you wait until the engine coughs, and then find you cannot move the selector valve, you will probably call yourself a few bad names and join the ranks of those called "Glider Pilots." Avoid power off letdowns. A high speed, idle, descent can result in very rapid cooling of your engine (shock cooling) and cracked cylinder heads. Lycoming recommends a maximum temperature change of 50 degrees F per minute. Keeping the engine leaned until you are approaching pattern altitude can also help keep your engine temps up. After landing, run your engine at a low power setting for several minutes prior to shutdown. This also promotes slow cooling and will reduce oil cooking if you are turbo supercharged. Lastly, I highly recommend you carry some form of survival kit. It would really stink to survive an off airport landing and then freeze to death before someone found you. Some of the things I recommend are space blankets, some duct tape, matches, an aluminum cup, knife, freeze dried coffee, tea, signaling mirror (a CD works great) and warm clothing to include a hat and gloves. Also carry a hand held radio. These have been just a few ideas to consider when flying during the winter months. Lycoming has some cold weather tips in their book "Key Reprints." This book is available free online at www.lycoming.textron.com. Your POH is also a great source of cold weather operating tips. Winter flying is fun and can be just as safe and enjoyable as summer, if we take a few precautions. COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 109 NW Wilmington Ave Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President --------OPEN---------- Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From gem at rellim.com Thu Nov 20 10:56:31 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:56:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Susan Palmeri Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Breaking news in this morning's Bend Bulletin on the front of the Local section. Susan Palmeri, our Bend Airport Manager resigned last Tuesday. Her last day will be December 5th. She is leaving to become director of Stockton's Metro Airport (KSCK). This is a nice step up for her as KSCK is an air carrier airport. We will miss her and wish her well in her new job. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJJbLhBmnRqz71OvMRAm6rAKCQaHBsprQX6fJlcrNctgj9smF2agCgm9sL 9gfXeModUHbfMe7eo7Nj30s= =S9WK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Nov 21 00:03:39 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:03:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] 'Fly-out' this Saturday Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! 'Fly-out' this Saturday. There is a front due to pass by Friday night and the weather will not likely be very good on Saturday. So this month our flyout will be to the Black Bear Diner on 3rd and Olney streets. We will meet at 9am and have some virtual flying with our eggs. Hope to see you all there. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJJmteBmnRqz71OvMRAgk8AJ9qW+RyxWtMjuoezSGJS3JlIlyg1gCgze/s 8gXA7B9ABFmQBJJ/fVIdAJg= =sBIV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Fri Nov 21 09:16:33 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:16:33 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport Hangar Rent Increase - Bend City Council Meeting - December 3 Message-ID: I have been advised by Susan Palmeri that a proposed increase in hangar rent will be on the agenda for the Bend City Council meeting on December 3. If I understand the proposal correctly, Susan will be proposing an increase of 3% per year for the past 3 years (immediate 9% increase) with an increase of 3% per year in the future. The other major issue relating to the use of hangars at the Bend Airport for anything other than aircraft storage will apparently be scheduled for another meeting of the Bend City Council and has not yet been scheduled. All those concerned about theses issues should plan to attend these City Council meetings. Michael Adler From gem at rellim.com Fri Nov 21 18:21:24 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:21:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly-out Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Looks like we made the right decision Thursday night. The front that was forcast to move in Friday night is not going to arrive Saturday morning. The forcast is OVC040 in scattered showers with the snow level at 4,000. Ugh. So, to recap, out plan is to meet at the Black Bear Diner at 3rd and Olney at 9am. Looking forward to it! RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJJ2ynBmnRqz71OvMRAp2tAKDP2dQ0uVesy4QGT0/pt2fdHqOsqQCfU4oS kmJTzFciN8soALhK22ILL1I= =nGqj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From wilfong.d at gmail.com Sat Nov 22 07:51:30 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:51:30 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] VERY IMPORTANT-PLEASE READ Message-ID: <6070c9830811220751g2b12c1n33170b12d34990fe@mail.gmail.com> HEY GANG: IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN......THURSDAY NITE OUR GROUP VOTED TO DO OUR ANNUAL CHARITY PROJECT AGAIN THIS YEAR....NORMA WILFONG HAS CHAIRED THIS PROJECT EACH YEAR AND SHE HAS AGREED TO DO SO AGAIN THIS YEAR. EACH YEAR FOR THE LAST 7 OR 8 YEARS WE HAVE GATHERED DONATIONS FROM OUR MEMBERS AND IN COOPERATION WITH SOME OF THE TEACHERS AT PILOT BUTTE MIDDLE SCHOOL WE HAVE PROVIDED A CHRISTMAS FOR 1 OR 2 NEEDY AND VERY DESERVING CHILDREN.........100 PERCENT OF THE DOLLARS DONATED GOES FOR IT'S INTENDED PURPOSE......... THE TEACHERS SCREEN AND SELECT THE STUDENT OR STUDENTS, THEY DO THE SHOPPING AND WRAPPING OF THE GIFTS (SOMETIMES WE HELP WITH THE WRAPPING) AND WE ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF THE TEACHERS DO THE DELIVERY JUST PRIOR TO CHRISTMAS. MOST OF THE GIFTS ARE FOR CLOTHES AND OTHER NECESSITYS WITH A COUPLE OF JUST FOR FUN GIFTS THROWN IN. IF THERE ARE ANY FUNDS LEFT OVER, AFTER THE GIFTS ARE PURCHASED, THEY ARE HELD OVER FOR THE NEXT YEAR.....WE HAD A FEW DOLLARS LEFT FROM LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD A FEW DONATIONS SO FAR THIS YEAR.......BUT WE DO NEED MUCH MORE.........WE KNOW THAT TIMES ARE TOUGH FOR MOST EVERYONE THIS YEAR AND BUDGETS ARE SHORT.......BUT........PLEASE DIG DOWN AND DONATE SOMETHING FOR THIS VERY WORTHY AND HEARTWARMING PROJECT..........NO DONATION IS TOO SMALL.......... PLEASE SEND IN WHAT YOU CAN, AS SOON AS YOU CAN IN ORDER TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE SHOPPING AND THE WRAPPING. IF POSSIBLE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE DONATIONS IN BY THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER. MAKE YOUR CHECKS PAYABLE TO "CO-OPA" OR "CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER OF OREGON PILOTS ASSOC." AND MARK ON THE CHECK "CHARITY FUND" THEN SEND THEM TO: CO-OPA c/o NORMA WILFONG, 210 S. E. CESSNA DR., BEND, OR 97702. THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE AND MAY YOUR ENTIRE HOLIDAY SEASON BE ONE OF THE BEST YOU HAVE EVER HAD. SINCERELY, DON & NORMA WILFONG From mvbond at spiritone.com Mon Dec 1 18:09:21 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:09:21 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Muni hangar rent Message-ID: <493498D1.1030206@spiritone.com> The rent issue is on the 12/3 Bend City Council agenda. The proposal is for an immediate increase of 9% (3 pct each yr for the past 3 yr) with a corresponding change to the lease to enable an automatic increase of 3 pct every year thereafter. All interested pilots should attend the meeting and let the council know your thoughts on this proposal. From kmuinch at hotmail.com Mon Dec 1 20:00:57 2008 From: kmuinch at hotmail.com (Kim Muinch) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:00:57 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video In-Reply-To: <00bc01c93dc5$df1a1550$9d4e3ff0$@us> References: <002201c93db9$04f1a840$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> <00bc01c93dc5$df1a1550$9d4e3ff0$@us> Message-ID: Here is an analysis of the video. I believe it was a fake. http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/exclusivevids/ExclusiveVideo_BigHoax_OneWingLanding_KillaThrill_199303-1.html Kim Muinch(541) 848-3600> From: pfking at webmail.us> To: co-opa at rellim.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:07:20 -0800> Subject: Re: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video> > Computer-generated, but fun nonetheless. It's a viral ad for killa thrilla.> > Here's a real in-flight emergency (if you haven't seen it). A prop> disintegrated during testing at the Reno Air Races.> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0txEC0Rhdg> > Peter King> CFI-I, MEI> Cirrus Standardized Instructor> Columbia Factory Instructor> Beechcraft too!> > > -----Original Message-----> From: co-opa-bounces at rellim.com [mailto:co-opa-bounces at rellim.com] On Behalf> Of Richard/Debbie Benson> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:35 AM> To: Opa List> Subject: [Co-opa] Amazing emergency flying video> > Greetings Fellow Pilots,> This is truly an amazing recovery from an emergency...> Don't try this at home kids !!!!!!!!!!> If it doesn't work by clicking on it, copy and paste it into your browser> Happy Trails, Richard> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRCbkBfdBrQ> > > _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa> > _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From wilfong.d at gmail.com Wed Dec 3 18:55:43 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:55:43 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] HELP !! Message-ID: <6070c9830812031855h7cc35899g93771e307c1900d6@mail.gmail.com> FLYING FRIENDS....... WE NEED YOUR HELP WITH OUR CHARITY PROGRAM WHICH IS DONE IN COOPERATION WITH SOME OF THE TEACHERS AT PILOT BUTTE MIDDLE SCHOOL. DONATIONS ARE FEWER AND SMALLER THIS YEAR THAN IN THE PAST. WE UNDERSTAND THAT MOST EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING A DROP IN SPENDABLE FUNDS....BUT WE ARE ASKING THAT IF YOU CAN SEND EVEN A SMALL AMOUNT IT WILL HELP TO MAKE OUR PROGRAM A SUCCESS.......SMALL AMOUNTS ADD UP............. SO...........IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE SEND WHAT YOU FEEL YOU CAN RIGHT AWAY SO THE TEACHERS HAVE TIME TO DO THE SHOPPING FOR AND WRAPPING OF THE GIFTS SO THEY CAN BE DELIVERED FOR CHRISTMAS.... PLEASE SEND YOUR DONATIONS TO: CO-OPA c/o NORMA WILFONG, 210 S.E. CESSNA DR., BEND, OR 97702 THANK YOU AND MAY YOUR HOLIDAYS BE EVERYTHING YOU WANT THEM TO BE, DON & NORMA WILFONG From gem at rellim.com Fri Dec 5 22:57:29 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:57:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Bend Airport - Major Projects Update (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from Susan Palmeri on her last day as KBDN airport manager. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:05:52 -0800 From: spalmeri at ci.bend.or.us Subject: Bend Airport - Major Projects Update Bend Airport - Major Projects Update: Runway Project: There are a few items left in the runway project. ?The electrical building is now being designed in a hangar at the end of City Hangars D. This will house the new regulators to provide power for the airfield signs, windsock, AWOS, and PAPIs. We are also planning to put in PAPIs and REILs on both ends of the runway. ?They should be in place by early Spring if the weather cooperates. Taxiway B: The FAA has contacted us to tell us that it looks positive for a grant for next summer of $6M to cover the cost of the new east-side taxiway and some additional connectors. We sent in an application to the FAA earlier this week and have been working with WH Pacific to provide a scope of work and estimate for the engineering. The City's portion is 5% of the $6M and will be paid for using general fund monies. ? Airport Master Plan: ?Had a discussion with the City Manager last week and this project may or may not move forward. The cost is approximately $150,000. He would like to wait until the new Council is in place and see how they feel about using the general funds money to pay for this project. ?If they decide not to do it in 2009, it may go forward in 2010 and be paid for by FAA using Entitlement Funds. PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES I know that I am ?probably missing something so please feel free to contact me or Gina Kadow who will be working part time as the Interim Airport Manager until they hire someone. ?Gina's email is gkadow at ci.bend.or.us and can be reached at my phone number below. It has been great working with all of you. ?Happy Holidays, Sue ? Susan L. Palmeri, C.M. Bend Airport Manager PO Box 431 Bend, OR ?97709 (541) 389-0258 ph (541) 385-6676 fax -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJOiJcBmnRqz71OvMRAlCZAKCQHeU+hT7N914Ps5p0LcP8lLSbdQCeIIer EyLCKkLG29TRWpV0LaAYmVk= =T3sZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu Dec 4 23:28:19 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:28:19 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] T-Hangar Rents Message-ID: <4938D813.3090801@spiritone.com> 9:15pm I've just returned home after attending tonight's City Council meeting, where the subject of an immediate 10% increase in T-hangar rents and a proposal for an annual rent increase were to be discussed. The rent topic was near the end of a long agenda and I was surprised to be called up to the speaker's podium during the Visitor's portion of the agenda. I told the Council that I thought I would be speaking to the rent issue when that was brought up but was informed that since it wasn't a public hearing, I had to say what I had to say during the Visitors section. I had prepared my presentation to follow Sue's presentation. My presentation would review my 10/28/08 letter to the Council and suggest that 3% was the right increase now (not 10%) and that the proposed lease language be changed to reflect "3% or the CPI, whichever was less" (not a constant 3% per year). Since Sue hadn't made her presentation, I think the Council wasn't "in gear" on the rent topic; their body language was clear. As a result, I made a presentation that could probably be most charitably described as "fairly dismal". Since the Council clearly wasn't sympathetic to my points of view, I expect that Sue's proposal will be accepted. The best we can hope for is that my presentation will at least dissuade the Council from deciding that 10% isn't enough, and that Sue's proposal will prevail. Sue will probably be giving us an update tomorrow or Friday. DD Update: The 9.8% T-hangar rent increase was approved by the City Council last night, together with revised wording in our leases that provides an automatic, every-year increase in the rent of 3%. Do the math, folks...you're going to be paying a lot for your hangars in the coming years. I talked with Sue today following last night's City Council vote on increasing the hangar rents. I was disappointed that there was no one at the meeting except Sue and I to talk about the increase proposal. Sue told me that after she had finished her presentation, Chris Telfer asked her if the information I provided to them was correct and Sue said it was. Sue said that the Council seemed surprised that there was only one public member there (me) to talk to the rent issue, and she indicated that had there been more of us there, the Council might have trimmed back the increase and changed the new lease to provide the annual-increase wording that I suggested. But no one else was there. Very, very disappointing. I'm not encouraged by the support our pilots have shown. DD From gem at rellim.com Wed Dec 10 15:34:56 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:34:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Airport issue (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! This just in from the city. Strangely it makes no mention of the in-process ramp changes. I am following up on those. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:22:50 -0800 From: GKadow at ci.bend.or.us To: gkadow at ci.bend.or.us Cc: EKing at ci.bend.or.us Subject: Airport issue To all Tenants at the Bend Municipal Airport- Due to the fact that we are temporarily without a permanent Airport Manager all discussions regarding Airport CCR's and use regulations pertaining to hangars will be postponed. Gina M. Kadow City of Bend/Office Specialist III 541-693-2162 gkadow at ci.bend.or.us -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQFIjBmnRqz71OvMRAlrmAJ9dXqw3NgzX50Rw1ca8KT5iU9JVMQCg0wXH DRaXeYqA+6V2Hn8cZ7QObaU= =8COb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Thu Dec 11 10:43:51 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:43:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just the old stonewall. I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your complaints to: Gina M. Kadow RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQV9sBmnRqz71OvMRAlkyAKCqIlwXEmF6TOZznQtz3n/G+jI4IACeIgOX WHoTEfcEeXkK0LWrpSjeaLg= =Iooe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com Thu Dec 11 12:44:41 2008 From: flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com (flyingeagle at bendbroadband.com) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:44:41 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Ramp Changes at Bend Airport Message-ID: I have been advised that some airport tenants have been informed that there are pending proposed changes for aircraft parking and possibly other uses of the airport ramp area. Please advise all airport tenants and other airport users of the proposed changes as soon as possible. Thank you. Michael Adler From mvbond at spiritone.com Thu Dec 11 14:38:44 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:38:44 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49419674.7050609@spiritone.com> Hi Gary, I asked Pro Air this morning about the ramp changes and they said that this resulted from a request by Leading Edge for expansion of their helicopter operations and Susan Palmeri agreed just before she left as a 'temporary measure', but that the city probably had not had a chance to advise people.. Choice of timing sounds highly suspicious to me .... Supposedly only 3 tiedowns are affected and you are one of those. Especially after Dennis Douglas' latest email, this looks like an operating style we can expect for the (near) future. Mike =========================================== From Dennis Douglas: Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her if she and I could get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to the meeting. At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests were represented. While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not. She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done, presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that. When I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know, Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked them both for their time and left. In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want" words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude. It was a most unsatisfactory meeting. Regards, DD Gary E. Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new > ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just > the old stonewall. > > I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your > complaints to: > > Gina M. Kadow > > > RGDS > GARY > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From gem at rellim.com Thu Dec 11 15:02:50 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:02:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! More 'news' from the city. Dennis: thanks for taking the time to go down there. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:53:38 -0800 From: Dennis Douglas To: Gary E. Miller Cc: Mike Bond Subject: Re: KBDN ramp changes Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her if she and I could get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to the meeting. At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests were represented. While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not. She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done, presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that. When I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know, Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked them both for their time and left. In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want" words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude. It was a most unsatisfactory meeting. Regards, DD Gary E. Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo All! > > I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new > ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just > the old stonewall. > > I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your > complaints to: > > Gina M. Kadow > > > RGDS > GARY > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFJQV9sBmnRqz71OvMRAlkyAKCqIlwXEmF6TOZznQtz3n/G+jI4IACeIgOX > WHoTEfcEeXkK0LWrpSjeaLg= > =Iooe > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQZwdBmnRqz71OvMRAjElAKCU8AEwNjXd4BYebiGXZ4VlE3xKXQCgv08g aDTennaFXzPUDVoaN8uddh0= =60EZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From steve_magidson at consultant.com Thu Dec 11 15:43:58 2008 From: steve_magidson at consultant.com (Steve Magidson) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:43:58 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes In-Reply-To: <49419674.7050609@spiritone.com> References: <49419674.7050609@spiritone.com> Message-ID: <5411ac100812111543k4e690ebbx23ca1954ba011743@mail.gmail.com> Terri's attitude is, to say the least, UNBELIEVABLE. Her "us -vs- them" attitude will do nothing by create friction between the various pilot/flying groups at the airport and the City. I'm not sure what her position is (or Gina's for that matter), but there must be a way to work around her. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Mike Bond wrote: > Hi Gary, > I asked Pro Air this morning about the ramp changes and > they said that this resulted from a request by Leading Edge for > expansion of their helicopter operations and Susan Palmeri > agreed just before she left as a 'temporary measure', but that > the city probably had not had a chance to advise people.. > Choice of timing sounds highly suspicious to me .... > Supposedly only 3 tiedowns are affected and you are one of those. > Especially after Dennis Douglas' latest email, this looks like an > operating style we can expect for the (near) future. > > Mike > =========================================== > > From Dennis Douglas: > > Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and > Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her if she and I could > get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to > the meeting. > > At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to > communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications > translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect > them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish > a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the > airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's > being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups > at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the > Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested > that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who > could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry > information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests > were represented. > > While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not. > She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out > any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested > that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri > also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done > until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings > about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we > could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done, > presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area > around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and > what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the > landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment > to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that. > When I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in > the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know, > Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do > what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably > inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked > them both for their time and left. > > In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in > the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want" > words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of > self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude. > It was a most unsatisfactory meeting. > > Regards, > DD > > > Gary E. Miller wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Yo All! >> >> I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new >> ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just >> the old stonewall. >> >> I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your >> complaints to: >> >> Gina M. Kadow >> >> >> RGDS >> GARY >> - >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > -- Steve Magidson steve_magidson at consultant.com (805) 445-9853 (541) 504-6263 From dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com Thu Dec 11 16:11:28 2008 From: dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com (dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:11:28 +0000 Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes In-Reply-To: <5411ac100812111543k4e690ebbx23ca1954ba011743@mail.gmail.com> References: <49419674.7050609@spiritone.com><5411ac100812111543k4e690ebbx23ca1954ba011743@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2031207850-1229040594-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-70946311-@bxe306.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have been watching this dialogue with some interest though I am based at RDM. Someone may wish to try to establish who is the customer in this service oriented relationship. Heck the Bulletin may be interested in this governmental attitude also. Just some thoughts. Doug Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Steve Magidson Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:43:58 To: Mike Bond Cc: Dennis Douglas; CO-OPA members Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes Terri's attitude is, to say the least, UNBELIEVABLE. Her "us -vs- them" attitude will do nothing by create friction between the various pilot/flying groups at the airport and the City. I'm not sure what her position is (or Gina's for that matter), but there must be a way to work around her. On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Mike Bond wrote: > Hi Gary, > I asked Pro Air this morning about the ramp changes and > they said that this resulted from a request by Leading Edge for > expansion of their helicopter operations and Susan Palmeri > agreed just before she left as a 'temporary measure', but that > the city probably had not had a chance to advise people.. > Choice of timing sounds highly suspicious to me .... > Supposedly only 3 tiedowns are affected and you are one of those. > Especially after Dennis Douglas' latest email, this looks like an > operating style we can expect for the (near) future. > > Mike > =========================================== > > From Dennis Douglas: > > Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and > Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her if she and I could > get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to > the meeting. > > At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to > communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications > translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect > them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish > a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the > airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's > being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups > at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the > Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested > that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who > could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry > information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests > were represented. > > While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not. > She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out > any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested > that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri > also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done > until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings > about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we > could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done, > presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area > around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and > what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the > landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment > to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that. > When I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in > the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know, > Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do > what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably > inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked > them both for their time and left. > > In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in > the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want" > words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of > self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude. > It was a most unsatisfactory meeting. > > Regards, > DD > > > Gary E. Miller wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Yo All! >> >> I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new >> ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just >> the old stonewall. >> >> I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your >> complaints to: >> >> Gina M. Kadow >> >> >> RGDS >> GARY >> - >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > -- Steve Magidson steve_magidson at consultant.com (805) 445-9853 (541) 504-6263 _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From kmuinch at hotmail.com Thu Dec 11 17:15:09 2008 From: kmuinch at hotmail.com (Kim Muinch) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:15:09 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes In-Reply-To: <2031207850-1229040594-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-70946311-@bxe306.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <49419674.7050609@spiritone.com><5411ac100812111543k4e690ebbx23ca1954ba011743@mail.gmail.com> <2031207850-1229040594-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-70946311-@bxe306.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: I am a relative newcomer to Bend, having relocated here in February of this year. I brought my Bonanza with me, and after just a couple of inquiries at the Bend Airport I drew a quick conclusion that hangar rent space wasn't going to be easy to find. To me that says it's a great airport. I learned there was a waiting list for the Bend Airport, but I decided to join it. Then I checked Redmond and Prineville for space until a Bend hangar opened up. I rented a brand new hangar at Prineville, was impressed by the much lower gas price, and took comfort that there is an FBO there. My experience there has been good. It's a little lonely out there, but the 40 minute drive for me to Prineville vs the 15 minute drive to Bend isn't so bad. I will leave my name stand on the Bend waiting list, but if my name came up tomorrow, in light of the attitude of servants like Ms. Sheppard "Running" that facility, I think I would pass for now. I spoke with a Prineville official recently, to ask about all the expansion at their airport, and the response was, "We are 12 years into a plan to make this airport the jewel of Central Oregon". If the Bulletin does a story, my input to them would be that as a relative newcomer to the City, and as a person that actively uses my airplane to support my business, the City managers should know that our airport is a business that isn't serving its customers. And it is losing business to the competitor down the road. As a resident of the city of Bend, a little piece of that airport is mine, and I protest the way it is being managed from an asset point of view. I really would rather call the Bend Airport my home airport, just like I would rather own an American-made automobile. Kim Muinch> To: steve_magidson at consultant.com; co-opa-bounces at rellim.com; mvbond at spiritone.com> From: dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:11:28 +0000> CC: co-opa at rellim.com; ddouglas at cfoastside.net> Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes> > I have been watching this dialogue with some interest though I am based at RDM. Someone may wish to try to establish who is the customer in this service oriented relationship. Heck the Bulletin may be interested in this governmental attitude also. > > Just some thoughts. > Doug> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry> > -----Original Message-----> From: Steve Magidson > > Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:43:58 > To: Mike Bond> Cc: Dennis Douglas; CO-OPA members> Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes> > > Terri's attitude is, to say the least, UNBELIEVABLE. Her "us -vs- them"> attitude will do nothing by create friction between the various pilot/flying> groups at the airport and the City. I'm not sure what her position is (or> Gina's for that matter), but there must be a way to work around her.> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Mike Bond wrote:> > > Hi Gary,> > I asked Pro Air this morning about the ramp changes and> > they said that this resulted from a request by Leading Edge for> > expansion of their helicopter operations and Susan Palmeri> > agreed just before she left as a 'temporary measure', but that> > the city probably had not had a chance to advise people..> > Choice of timing sounds highly suspicious to me ....> > Supposedly only 3 tiedowns are affected and you are one of those.> > Especially after Dennis Douglas' latest email, this looks like an> > operating style we can expect for the (near) future.> >> > Mike> > ===========================================> >> > From Dennis Douglas:> >> > Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and> > Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her if she and I could> > get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to> > the meeting.> >> > At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to> > communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications> > translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect> > them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish> > a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the> > airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's> > being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups> > at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the> > Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested> > that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who> > could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry> > information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests> > were represented.> >> > While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not.> > She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out> > any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested> > that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri> > also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done> > until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings> > about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we> > could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done,> > presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area> > around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and> > what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the> > landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment> > to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that.> > When I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in> > the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know,> > Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do> > what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably> > inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked> > them both for their time and left.> >> > In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in> > the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want"> > words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of> > self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude.> > It was a most unsatisfactory meeting.> >> > Regards,> > DD> >> >> > Gary E. Miller wrote:> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> >> Hash: SHA1> >>> >> Yo All!> >>> >> I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new> >> ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just> >> the old stonewall.> >>> >> I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your> >> complaints to:> >>> >> Gina M. Kadow > >>> >>> >> RGDS> >> GARY> >> -> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________> > Co-opa mailing list> > Co-opa at rellim.com> > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa> >> > > > -- > Steve Magidson> steve_magidson at consultant.com> (805) 445-9853> (541) 504-6263> _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa> _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa From gem at rellim.com Thu Dec 11 17:18:15 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:18:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes (fwd) Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! More on the ramp issues. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:15:09 -0800 From: Kim Muinch To: dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com, steve_magidson at consultant.com, co-opa-bounces at rellim.com, mvbond at spiritone.com Cc: ddouglas at cfoastside.net, co-opa at rellim.com Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes I am a relative newcomer to Bend, having relocated here in February of this year. I brought my Bonanza with me, and after just a couple of inquiries at the Bend Airport I drew a quick conclusion that hangar rent space wasn't going to be easy to find. To me that says it's a great airport. I learned there was a waiting list for the Bend Airport, but I decided to join it. Then I checked Redmond and Prineville for space until a Bend hangar opened up. I rented a brand new hangar at Prineville, was impressed by the much lower gas price, and took comfort that there is an FBO there. My experience there has been good. It's a little lonely out there, but the 40 minute drive for me to Prineville vs the 15 minute drive to Bend isn't so bad. I will leave my name stand on the Bend waiting list, but if my name came up tomorrow, in light of the attitude of servants like Ms. Sheppard "Running" that facility, I think I would pass for now. I spoke with a Prineville official recently, to ask about all the expansion at their airport, and the response was, "We are 12 years into a plan to make this airport the jewel of Central Oregon". If the Bulletin does a story, my input to them would be that as a relative newcomer to the City, and as a person that actively uses my airplane to support my business, the City managers should know that our airport is a business that isn't serving its customers. And it is losing business to the competitor down the road. As a resident of the city of Bend, a little piece of that airport is mine, and I protest the way it is being managed from an asset point of view. I really would rather call the Bend Airport my home airport, just like I would rather own an American-made automobile. Kim Muinch> To: steve_magidson at consultant.com; co-opa-bounces at rellim.com; mvbond at spiritone.com> From: dwatson102 at bendbroadband.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:11:28 +0000> CC: co-opa at rellim.com; ddouglas at cfoastside.net> Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes> > I have been watching this dialogue with some interest though I am based at RDM. Someone may wish to try to establish who is the customer in this service oriented relationship. Heck the Bulletin may be interested in this governmental attitude also. > > Just some thoughts. > Doug> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry> > -----Original Message-----> From: Steve Magidson > > Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:43:58 > To: Mike Bond> Cc: Dennis Douglas; CO-OPA members> Subject: Re: [Co-opa] KBDN ramp changes> > > Terri's attitude is, to say the least, UNBELIEVABLE. Her "us -vs- them"> attitude will do nothing by create friction between the various pilot/flying> groups at the airport and the City. I'm not sure what her position is (or> Gina's for that matter), but there must be a way to work around her.> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Mike Bond wrote:> > > Hi Gary,> > I asked Pro Air this morning about the ramp changes and> > they said that this resulted from a request by Leading Edge for> > expansion of their helicopter operations and Susan Palmeri> > agreed just before she left as a 'temporary measure', but that> > the city probably had not had a chance to advise people..> > Choice of timing sounds highly suspicious to me ....> > Supposedly only 3 tiedowns are affected and you are one of those.> > Especially after Dennis Douglas' latest email, this looks like an> > operating style we can expect for the (near) future.> >> > Mike> > ===========================================> >> > From Dennis Douglas:> >> > Gary...I have just returned from a meeting at City Hall with Gina Kadow and> > Terri Sheppard. I called Gina this morning to ask her! if she and I could> > get together for a short meeting. When I got there, Gina invited Terri to> > the meeting.> >> > At at meeting I said that pilots pride themselves in their ability to> > communicate (for safety reasons, usually) and that sense of communications> > translated to the airport as a need to be informed about things that affect> > them and the airport in general. I asked two things: 1) to try to establish> > a regular and frequent communications stream between the City and the> > airport folk so that we were informed about what's happening and what's> > being planned at the airport, and.2) to be sure that the small user groups> > at the airport--the EAA, 99s, COOPA, glider groups--be included in the> > Airport Master Plan process. With regard to the MP process, I suggested> > that the user groups could be represented by one or two individuals who> > could be present for most of the planning process meetings and carry> > information back and forth between the pilot groups to be sure our interests> > were represented.> >> > While Gina seemed receptive to the ideas, Terri most certainly did not.> > She said that the city staff did not have the time to prepare and send out> > any kind general communications to the airport community. When I suggested> > that if there was anything I could to help, Terri dismissed that. Terri> > also said that as far as the MP process was concerned nothing would be done> > until a new Airport Manager was hired and that notices of public meetings> > about the process would be published in the newspaper, at which time we> > could have our say. When I brought up the ramp change (being done,> > presumably at the request of Leading Edge, to improve the safety buffer area> > around the helicopters) and the need to inform users about that need and> > what was being done about it, Terri disagreed and argued that when the> > landlord of an apartment complex needed to move a tenant from one apartment> > to another there was no need to inform all the other tenants about that.> > W! hen I countered that if the move was being done because there were bugs in> > the apartment, that certainly the other tenants were deserving to know,> > Terri disagreed and said that the City owned the airport and they could do> > what they wanted with it. Terri said that it was even probably> > inappropriate for us to be having that meeting. At which point I thanked> > them both for their time and left.> >> > In my opinion, the present situation is that Terri Sheppard is the clod in> > the churn. Her "it's the City's airport and we'll do with it what we want"> > words, attitude and body language bespeaks of bureaucracy and protection of> > self-interest. Terri clearly has an "us against them" attitude.> > It was a most unsatisfactory meeting.> >> > Regards,> > DD> >> >> > Gary E. Miller wrote:> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----> >> Hash: SHA1> >>> >> Yo All!> >>> >> I have sent repeated requests to the city to determine what the new> >> ramp changes at KBDN will be all about. I am getting no answers, just> >> the old stonewall.> >>> >> I find this very disconcerting, if you agree, please send your> >> complaints to:> >>> >> Gina M. Kadow > >>> >>> >> RGDS> >> GARY> >> -> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> >>> >>> >>> > _______________________________________________> > Co-opa mailing list> > Co-opa at rellim.com> > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa> >> > > > -- > Steve Magidson> steve_magidson at consultant.com> (805) 445-9853> (541) 504-6263> _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa> _______________________________________________> Co-opa mailing list> Co-opa at rellim.com> http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa _______________________________________________ Co-opa mailing list Co-opa at rellim.com http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQbvZBmnRqz71OvMRAjr7AKDjce+68J8DNi7YiwZsCE5zvQquSACghP2/ S2YRNVso5xqC1j2gwvFwMlo= =WQFg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Thu Dec 11 18:20:01 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:20:01 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Help!!! Message-ID: Ms. Kadow, City of Bend I'm a board member with the Central Oregon Chapter of the Oregon Pilot's Association. Our organization has a membership meeting next week and there seems to be a lot of consternation about the "ramp changes" at the Bend Airport. Members, including our president, who have contacted you for information seem to not have received a response or pertinent information. If there is a communication problem please let me know as soon as possible. There is much angst that may elevate this situation to the council or beyond. Thank you for your assistance and please send any correspondence to me by reply and I will convey your remarks to the group. I personally invite you and any of your associates to our membership potluck meeting 12-18-08, 6PM at the Bend Airport Terminal Building. This will be an excellent opportunity for you to make direct contact with your constituency. I will be sending a program announcement by 12-15-08 and include you on the agenda. Please let me know if there are any comments that you would like to include in the announcement. Thank you for the work you do! Ed Endsley, Program Director, CO-OPA From wilfong.d at gmail.com Fri Dec 12 09:11:52 2008 From: wilfong.d at gmail.com (Don Wilfong) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" In-Reply-To: References: <6070c9830812111242s38b12736p1160d89c434289b9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6070c9830812120911y5a1145acref923f1d780f614f@mail.gmail.com> HEY GANG.......THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED RE: KBDN.......MIKE BOND IF YOU CARE TO YOU MAY FORWARD IT TO THE EAA GROUP.........DON WILFONG P.S.: MY MESSAGE TO GINA KADOW IS ATTACHED BELOW. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Date: Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" To: Don Wilfong Dear Don- I am sorry that you have been misinformed regarding a change in operation at the Bend airport. Please be assured there are none other than the fact that Sue has left the airport and we are currently posting for a new airport manager. If there are any changes in operation the new Airport Manager would be the one to make that decision and at that time notify all of the appropriate airport tenant and users. I am here to answer any tenant lease related questions and any other inquires I will direct to the appropriate person(s). I sincerely appreciate you the taking to email me so that I can pass on to you accurate information. Thank you, Gina M. Kadow City of Bend/Office Specialist III 541-693-2162 gkadow at ci.bend.or.us *"Don Wilfong" * 12/11/2008 11:53 PM To GKadow at ci.bend.or.us cc Subject [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" MS. KADOW: MANY OF US, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN AVIATION, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO OPERATIONS AT THE BEND AIRPORT WILL BE........UP TO NOW WE HAVE ONLY RECEIVED WORD THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES........ THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR RESPONSE, UPON RECEIPT OF YOUR REPLY I WILL FORWARD THE INFORMATION TO THE CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER OF OREGON PILOTS ASSOC. "CO-OPA" AND TO THE EAA CHAPTER..... DON WILFONG *wilfong.d at gmail.com* From gem at rellim.com Fri Dec 12 09:34:24 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:34:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" In-Reply-To: <6070c9830812120911y5a1145acref923f1d780f614f@mail.gmail.com> References: <6070c9830812111242s38b12736p1160d89c434289b9@mail.gmail.com> <6070c9830812120911y5a1145acref923f1d780f614f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo Gina! So the five of us no longer have to move our aiprlanes now? RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Don Wilfong wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:11:52 -0800 > From: Don Wilfong > To: co-opa at rellim.com > Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > HEY GANG.......THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED RE: KBDN.......MIKE BOND IF > YOU CARE TO YOU MAY FORWARD IT TO THE EAA GROUP.........DON WILFONG > P.S.: MY MESSAGE TO GINA KADOW IS ATTACHED BELOW. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: > Date: Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > To: Don Wilfong > > > > Dear Don- > > I am sorry that you have been misinformed regarding a change in operation at > the Bend airport. Please be assured there are none other than the fact > that Sue has left the airport and we are currently posting for a new airport > manager. If there are any changes in operation the new Airport Manager > would be the one to make that decision and at that time notify all of the > appropriate airport tenant and users. > > I am here to answer any tenant lease related questions and any other > inquires I will direct to the appropriate person(s). > > I sincerely appreciate you the taking to email me so that I can pass on to > you accurate information. > > Thank you, > > Gina M. Kadow > City of Bend/Office Specialist III > 541-693-2162 > gkadow at ci.bend.or.us > > > *"Don Wilfong" * > > 12/11/2008 11:53 PM > To > GKadow at ci.bend.or.us cc > Subject > [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > > > > MS. KADOW: > > MANY OF US, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN AVIATION, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE > PROPOSED CHANGES TO OPERATIONS AT THE BEND AIRPORT WILL BE........UP TO NOW > WE HAVE ONLY RECEIVED WORD THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES........ > > THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR RESPONSE, UPON RECEIPT OF YOUR REPLY I WILL > FORWARD THE INFORMATION TO THE CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER OF OREGON PILOTS > ASSOC. "CO-OPA" AND TO THE EAA CHAPTER..... > > DON WILFONG > *wilfong.d at gmail.com* > _______________________________________________ > Co-opa mailing list > Co-opa at rellim.com > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQqCjBmnRqz71OvMRAmjTAJ956remg1tLYLlaNGeAsyY5m8ZRUQCfYCRb fImXs4p4aIKBxSEg9ceYc80= =MuaV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Dec 12 11:28:06 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:28:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo Gina! What is the purpose of this move? What are the safety implications of this move? Previosuly you mentioned that ramp markings would be changed, can you tell us what those changes will be? All we are sasking for here is proper 'notification'. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, GKadow at ci.bend.or.us wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:09:37 -0800 > From: GKadow at ci.bend.or.us > To: Gary E. Miller > Cc: co-opa at rellim.com, Don Wilfong , EKing at ci.bend.or.us, > tshepherd at ci.bend.or.us, eric at hilmarsh.com > Subject: Re: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > > Gary- > > As previously requested, by Sue Palmeri and prior to her departure the > five planes in question, (tiedowns located in front of Leading Edge) > ?will need to be moved approximately 50 feet to the South tiedown area. ? > > Going forward, if there are any "operational" changes airport tenants > will be notified in the same manner as when Ms. Palmeri managed the > Airport. > > Thank you, > > Gina M. Kadow > City of Bend/Office Specialist III > 541-693-2162 > gkadow at ci.bend.or.us > > > "Gary E. Miller" > > 12/12/2008 09:34 AM > > To > Don Wilfong > cc > co-opa at rellim.com, GKadow at ci.bend.or.us > Subject > Re: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Yo Gina! > > So the five of us no longer have to move our aiprlanes now? > > > RGDS > GARY > - > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? gem at rellim.com ?Tel:+1(541)382-8588 > > On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Don Wilfong wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:11:52 -0800 > > From: Don Wilfong > > To: co-opa at rellim.com > > Subject: [Co-opa] Fwd: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > > > HEY GANG.......THIS IS THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED RE: ?KBDN.......MIKE > BOND IF > > YOU CARE TO YOU MAY FORWARD IT TO THE EAA GROUP.........DON WILFONG > > P.S.: ?MY MESSAGE TO GINA KADOW IS ATTACHED BELOW. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: > > Date: Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [SPAM?] BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > To: Don Wilfong > > > > > > > > Dear Don- > > > > I am sorry that you have been misinformed regarding a change in > operation at > > the Bend airport. ?Please be assured ?there are none other than the > fact > > that Sue has left the airport and we are currently posting for a new > airport > > manager. ?If there are any changes in operation the new Airport Manager > > would be the one to make that decision and at that time notify all of > the > > appropriate ?airport tenant ?and users. > > > > I am here to answer any tenant lease related questions and any other > > inquires I will direct to the appropriate person(s). > > > > I sincerely appreciate you the taking to email me so that I can pass on > to > > you accurate information. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Gina M. Kadow > > City of Bend/Office Specialist III > > 541-693-2162 > > gkadow at ci.bend.or.us > > > > > > ? *"Don Wilfong" * > > > > 12/11/2008 11:53 PM > > ? ?To > > GKadow at ci.bend.or.us ?cc > > ? Subject > > [SPAM?] ?BEND AIRPORT "KBDN" > > > > > > > > > > MS. KADOW: > > > > MANY OF US, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN AVIATION, WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE > > PROPOSED CHANGES TO OPERATIONS AT THE BEND AIRPORT WILL BE........UP TO > NOW > > WE HAVE ONLY RECEIVED WORD THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES........ > > > > THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR RESPONSE, ?UPON RECEIPT OF YOUR REPLY I > WILL > > FORWARD THE INFORMATION TO THE CENTRAL OREGON CHAPTER OF OREGON PILOTS > > ASSOC. "CO-OPA" AND TO THE EAA CHAPTER..... > > > > DON WILFONG > > *wilfong.d at gmail.com* > > _______________________________________________ > > Co-opa mailing list > > Co-opa at rellim.com > > http://catbert.rellim.com/mailman/listinfo/co-opa > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFJQqCjBmnRqz71OvMRAmjTAJ956remg1tLYLlaNGeAsyY5m8ZRUQCfYCRb > fImXs4p4aIKBxSEg9ceYc80= > =MuaV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJQrtLBmnRqz71OvMRAuK3AJ0X7afSYSxlkNyPdJdSh31dbOlR5QCfZ5Gy B15Jjp5wbWEIWcDrgDgjSFw= =vrrv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From ed at edendsley.com Tue Dec 16 11:15:00 2008 From: ed at edendsley.com (Ed Endsley) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:15:00 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Special Aviation Program Announcement: Message-ID: Special Aviation Program Announcement: Plan to attend the Thursday, December 18, 2008, Central Oregon - Oregon Pilots Assoc. Christmas meeting in the Bend Airport Flight Services Terminal Building; The Professional Air Offices, http://www.proairservices.com, at 6PM for a potluck dinner and a very special program. Everyone is welcome! Bring an aviation related item for our gift exchange (optional) and enjoy our holiday Christmas party!!! A bonus gift to all of us will be a briefing on the state of the COCC Aviation Program with Mr. John Miller. http://aviation.cocc.edu/ Ms. Gina Kadow, City of Bend/Office Specialist III, and her associates with current responsibility for airport affairs, have also been invited to share management details pending the hiring of the new manager. http://www.ci.bend.or.us/depts/urban_renewal_economic_development/bend_airpo rt/index.html GKadow at ci.bend.or.us tshepherd at ci.bend.or.us Don't miss this opportunity for a very inspiring and informative evening. Bring your friends for flying fellowship, fine food, and fabulous fun!!! Merry Christmas to all and Happy New Year!!! Ed Endsley, CO-OPA Program Chair ed at edendsley.com http://co-opa.com From mvbond at spiritone.com Tue Dec 16 18:49:06 2008 From: mvbond at spiritone.com (Mike Bond) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:49:06 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] COOPA December 2008 newsletter Message-ID: <494868A2.7000409@spiritone.com> Here is the text version of the December 2008 newsletter. Gary is posting the full version on the website. Mike Bond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ CASCADE FLYER, December 2008, Vol. 08, Issue 12 President's Message: The November meeting was a great success thanks in part to our guest speaker Eddie Bevan from Cessna. Eddie is lucky enough to be a production test pilot for the Cessna 350 and 400 airplanes made right here at KBDN. We were lucky to hear him detail how he, and his cohort, take those racehorse machines on their initial flights and get them ready for delivery to their eager customers. Thanks again for dropping by for us Eddie. For December we have not one, but two fantastic events planned. First off John Miller from COCC will drop by to fill us in on the wonderful aviation program they have. John is director of the program that now shepherds 160 students forward toward their Associate of Science degree. Before retiring (if you can call what he does retiring) John was a Colonel in the USAF and logged more than 5,000 hours in fighters and DC-10's. Next up we will have our nationally famous Yankee Swap! Everyone that wishes to participate must bring an aviation related gift. Items need not be new, or even useful. As a last resort there is likely some unused, but valuable item in the bottom of your flight bag that just needs a new home to be loved again? Maybe you have gotten tired of that white elephant you took scored last year? Wrap it up and bring it to place beneath our pagan Yule Tree. So be sure to meet up with us for hanger flying at 6pm. Dec 18th at 6:30 pm the chapter will provide a roast turkey for the main dish and the members will provide all the trimmings for our potluck. Then at 7pm we'll start the 'formal' program. If you plan to attend on one meeting all year then this is it! 2008 events: 'Fusionman' crossing the English Channel Calendar: 18 December - Monthly Meeting & Holiday Party 20 December - Monthly Flyout 15 January - Monthly Meeting 17 January - Monthly Flyout 19 February - Monthly Meeting 21 February - Monthly Flyout 19 March - Monthly Meeting 21 March - Monthly Flyout 16 April - Monthly Meeting 18 April - Monthly Flyout My Inbox: It came as quite a shock to many of us to here that our KBDN airport manager, Susan Palmeri, has abruptly left to become director of Stockton's Metro Airport (KSCK). This is a nice step up for her as KSCK is an air carrier airport. Until Susan is replaced pretty much all plans at KBDN are on hold. Being as how we are in the midst of winters icy grip that is not much of a problem in the sort term. Moving into summer there will be the new east side taxiway, the master plan update and many other tasks that will require the attention of an airport manager so I hope the city moves quickly to fill the empty position. Web doings: To cut costs the OPA now only publishes their newsletter online. You can get a copy of the state newsletters by going to their website, http://www.oregonpilot.org/ then clicking on 'Newsletter' on the left nav. The state organization is also moving to billing state dues every January instead of on the anniversary of your joining the OPA. This should help cut administrative costs even more. This is especially important in light of the large drop in membership this year. You can find more details here: http://www.oregonpilot.org/membership/annualnotice.ht ml There was a 28% drop in OPA membership last year so very member counts. To access the members only areas the username is "BDN" and the password is "123.0". There you can find the membership roster if you are looking to track down a fellow CO-OPA member. Random Thoughts: Last month Central Oregon had almost record highs in the '60s. Now winter had abruptly reared its ugly head. Temperatures are in the single digits, the ceiling is low and everything it seems is coated in ice. Welcome to another typical Central Oregon winter. Depending on which weather forcaster you place your trust in, we just might see a day of blue sky in the next week, and there is even a slim chance it may be on a weekend. The problem is that since my plane is parked on the ramp, even if the day is clear, my plane will still be covered in something frozen. Planes do not fly very well when the wings have even a bit of debris on them. Less obvious, but more dangerous, is that planes do not fly well when the stabilizer or elevator have debris. The FAA and the AOPA recommend that no plane take off if there is ANY frost, snow or ice on the airframe. Ideally you can be sure your airplane is unimpaired by storing it overnight in a heated hanger before flying. Given the shortage of hangers around here, or when traveling away from our home airport, that is not always an option. In my ten years flying on our CO winters I have had the help of many people, with different techniques, to clear my airframe for some winter flying. The easiest, and least effective, method has been to brush the frost and snow away with gloves or brooms. For snow that has not stuck to the wings, or light frost, these seems to work well and is easy enough. If there is ice then all you do is uncover the real problem. Next up is the rope trick. If you have two people and a rope you can clear your wing of fairly stubborn debris in a short period of time. Just toss a rope over the wing and place one person on either end of the rope. See-saw the rope rapidly back and forth and slowly slide it sideways on the wing and watch your wing clear up to flying status. The downside is that you will lose a bit of paint during the process. A faster method to clear tough ice is hot water. A few FBOs have been nice enough to haul out buckets of hot water to pour over my wings and quickly melt down to my bare metal. So far it has worked out for me but I always fear that some of that hot water might puddle in some critical place and freeze as soon as I take off. On those few times I have managed to plan ahead there is a surprisingly easy, and safe, way to clear my wings. Two gallon jugs of premixed windshield washer fluid does the trick. Pour a small stream of the fluid down the wings, wait a minute, and brush off the slush. Repeat as needed until the wings (and tail surfaces) are clear. 10 minutes is usually all it takes and I do not have to worry about the slush re-freezing in an inconvenient place. However you manage it, be sure the important parts of your airplane are free of significant snow, frost and ice. With luck, and some elbow grease, we'll get to do some nice winter flying this year. Gary Miller Our November fly-out, courtesy of Mother Nature (Yes . it's Bend's Black Bear Diner) There's no place like home. Dorothy famously said that a long time ago, but the principle applied long before, and long after, the famous balloon trip to Oz. Epic is rediscovering the old adage. Epic started in Bend a few years ago and after designing a few new airplane types locally they decided to move certified production to Canada. After a few go arounds in the great white north the grass no longer looked greener in Ontario. Soon Georgia was on their mind. Not the Georgia in the new south, but the former Soviet Union one. They even sent over a prototype aircraft to see if the locals at Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing (TAM) over there wanted to try their hand at building the speedy craft. The prototype is still there, but the contract is off, after Russia bombed the Tbilisi airfield. Seems that they had a little war over there during the Olympics. Now the Bend Bulletin and the local TV stations are reporting that there really is no place like home. Epic plans to once again build and certify their new aircraft here in Bend. We welcome them back even though they never really left. Gary Miller ANNUAL XMAS CHARITY PROGRAM HI.........ON BEHALF OF OURSELVES, THE TEACHERS INVOLVED IN OUR CHARITY PROGRAM AND ULTIMATELY THE KIDS THAT WILL HAVE A CHRISTMAS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD OTHERWISE, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND DONATION TO THE CO-OPA CHRISTMAS CHARITY FUND. BECAUSE OF YOUR GENEROSITY WE HAVE ALL MADE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN SOME YOUNG PEOPLES LIVES. WE MAY NEVER KNOW BUT THIS ACT OF KINDNESS MAY MAKE A LIFELONG DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES....... THAT IS ONLY ONE PART OF THE EQUATION, THE OTHER PART IS THE GOOD FEELING THAT WE ALL EXPERIENCE FROM KNOWING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP SOME DESERVING YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAY AND THAT MAYBE WE HAVE GIVEN THEM A BOOST IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION........ AGAIN....THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND MAY YOUR HOLIDAY SEASON AND THE UPCOMING YEAR BRING YOU JOY AND HAPPINESS. DON AND NORMA WILFONG PLBs versus ELT's Both Canada and Mexico will require a 406 MHz Personal Locator beacon (PLB) on-board next year as a condition of entry. Although not mandatory in the US, satellite monitoring of existing 121.5 MHz ELT's will cease effective Feb 1, 2009 and the following may be worth noting . The probable circular error for triangulation of a 121.5 ELT is about a 12 NM radius. This figure is for SATELLITE accuracy, but in actual practice Civil Air Patrol aircraft are able to determine a 121.5 ELT's position down to 100 yards. On the other hand, the amount of time it would take for a rescue using [121.5] ELT's is fairly long. It typically takes about a half hour for the Air Force Rescue Coordination Center to detect an ELT and confirm it's location (to about 12 mile radius). They call a CAP unit, which takes up to an hour before an aircraft sortie is launched and another half hour to locate and determine the position. Another half hour to one hour for a ground team to be dispatched and locate the ELT results in somewhere around 4 hours before you would be rescued using a 121.5 ELT. The Doppler shift error for a 406 ELT SATELLITE is well under 3 nm. Now, with the 406, your position can be determined directly by the satellite and the ground team is dispatched without need for an aircrew. Rescue time for the 406 could be in the 1-2 hour range. We'll have to wait and see if this is realized in practice. Mike Bond Pulsing digital oxygen control Mountain High Equipment and Supply, Redmond, has unveiled its new MH EDS-02D1 and EDS-02D2 oxygen delivery systems. Mountain High's system does not dispense oxygen during the two-thirds of the breathing cycle - exhaling and pausing before inhaling again - when oxygen is not being delivered to the lungs. This pulse demand system consumes four to six times less oxygen than a constant- flow system. It monitors oxygen consumption to prevent hyperventilation. "Consequently, it eliminates that feeling of anxiety that one gets", CEO Robert Jamieson said. Operation is automatic after the system is turned on, and adjusts automatically to any altitude up to 25,000 feet. The latest system employs new algorithms to precisely profile breathing characteristics. The single- place system costs less than $1,000, a two-place system starts at $1,089 and both can be expanded to accommodate additional passengers. Fuel-saving with your ASI By Dave Hirschman, from AOPA ePilot The airspeed indicator (ASI) can tell you a great deal about how to fly more efficiently, but few pilots know how to decode its drag-reducing, fuel-saving, and range- extending message. According to Jack Norris, an aerospace engineer and technical director for the 1986 Voyager around-the- world flight, a simple, mechanical ASI (and an understanding of the aerodynamic drag chart and an airplane's best rate of climb speed) is all we need to maximize speed vs. drag. Minimizing drag is the key to reducing fuel burn and extending range. "The airspeed indicator tells us a lot more than just ram air pressure," said Norris, author of The Logic of Flight, a self-published book on aircraft efficiency and propeller design. "Your ASI can also tell you the most logical and efficient way to fly without being wasteful of fuel or time." All pilots learn in ground school that any airplane's best rate of climb and longest range is found at L/D max, that point on the drag chart where the induced and parasitic drag curves meet, and total drag is lowest. Pilots seeking peak efficiency can climb as high as possible and fly at L/D max for the absolute minimum fuel burn over the greatest distance. But here in the real world, few of us would ever choose to fly so slowly. "No one wants to plod along at some low speed with mushy controls," said Norris, a private pilot for 60 years. "You do that if you're flying the Voyager around the world. But even then, it took nine days, three minutes and 44 seconds. What we're really looking for is flying as fast as possible with as little drag as possible." Norris points to what he calls the "Max Speed vs. Drag" point on the chart. There, pilots can gain 31 percent more speed while paying a paltry 15 percent drag penalty. Since true airspeed (TAS) increases with altitude, at 12,500 feet, for example, pilots can obtain an additional 21 percent payoff for a total 59 percent speed gain over L/D max. "Who wouldn't want to go 59 percent faster for 15 percent more drag?" Norris says. "Aerodynamics is full of tradeoffs-but this one's a bargain." The best speed vs. drag point is always 1.31 times L/D max (or VY, the best-rate-of-climb speed), Norris says. Higher speeds are possible at lower altitudes and higher power settings. But since parasitic drag increases at the square of indicated airspeed, the additional speed carries a high price in dramatically higher fuel consumption and reduced range. "Very few pilots really understand that the shape of the total drag curve is really a leaning, lazy J," Norris says. "There's a place where the curve flattens out and you can fly much faster for a very small increase in drag. You don't need any special equipment or fancy math to figure it out. All you need to know is your aircraft's VY and add 31 percent." Max efficiency profile Norris recommends the following profile for virtually all piston-engine, general aviation aircraft: After takeoff, simply cruise climb at (1.31 times VY) as high as possible with the throttle wide open. When you've reached the maximum altitude at which you can maintain your target IAS with the mixture properly leaned, you're done. The pilot's operating handbook for the AOPA's IO-550- powered Beechcraft Bonanza BE36 seems to bear out Norris' IAS-based strategy. At a total weight of 3,400 pounds, VY is 96 knots, making the ideal target IAS 126 knots. On a standard day, with the throttle wide open and 2,500 rpm, mixture set 20 degrees lean of peak, the Bonanza shows 129 KIAS at 14,000 feet, 157 KTAS, and a fuel burn of 10.6 gph. That's about 14 KTAS less than the Bonanza's best- power setting at 6,000 feet where the airplane travels 171 KTAS at 14.4 gph. So, on a 500-mile trip, flying at high altitude and optimal IAS adds less than 15 minutes flying time and saves 8.7 gallons of avgas (or more than $52 at current prices). Put another way, optimal IAS at altitude reduces speed 8.2 percent while slashing fuel consumption 20 percent. Norris says his IAS-based approach works equally well for planes with fixed-pitch and constant-speed propellers and all engine sizes. "Flying is subject to the same physical laws, and the drag curves apply to all aircraft," he said. "Airplanes only know indicated airspeed. A wing doesn't know how fast it's moving over the ground, and it doesn't care. Understanding IAS allows pilots to minimize drag, fly more intelligently, and get the most efficiency and utility out of their aircraft." Give it a try Try Norris' IAS method and let us know how it works for you. Environmental factors such as winds aloft and icing levels are sure to influence your aeronautical decisions. One rule of thumb is to climb as quickly as possible when tailwinds are present to maximize the time such favorable conditions can act upon your aircraft. In strong headwinds, lower groundspeeds at altitude can negate any gains in TAS or reductions in hourly fuel burn. Also, physiological factors and the availability of supplemental oxygen can come into play at the higher altitudes Norris' IAS-based strategy suggests. Federal aviation regulations mandate that pilots use of supplemental oxygen whenever they're above 12,500 feet cabin pressure altitude more than 30 minutes, and at all times above 14,000 feet. (But studies show hypoxia can begin at significantly lower altitudes for many people, and headaches, dehydration, and fatigue are common after prolonged periods at 8,000 or 10,000 feet without supplemental oxygen.) Are you willing to fly higher and give up some speed for better fuel efficiency? COOPA officer contact info: President Gary E. Miller 109 NW Wilmington Ave Bend, OR 97701 541-382-8588 gem at rellim.com Vice President --------OPEN---------- Secretary/Treasurer Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Temp Flyout Chair Don Wilfong 210 SE Cessna Dr Bend, OR 97702 541 389-1456 dwnw at bendbroadband.com Program Chair Ed Endsley 63505 Bridle Ln Bend, OR 97701 541 382-6414 ed at edendsley.com And finally, send Newsletter inputs to Mike Bond 22052 Banff Drive Bend, OR 97702 541 317-8443 mvbond at spiritone.com From catacres at webformixair.com Wed Dec 17 09:19:54 2008 From: catacres at webformixair.com (Richard/Debbie Benson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:19:54 -0800 Subject: [Co-opa] Winter De-icing tips Message-ID: <00c401c9606c$70861660$6464a8c0@cascadecot7hp2> Hi Gary, Just a note to thank you for the Winter De-icing tips you shared with our local group... As you know we 'weekend in Monument' a couple times a month where there are no facilities beyond the Windsoc & 6 tiedowns... I'd not heard of using "premixed windshield washer fluid", so will keep some in 'the cottage' just in case. We have used the 'rope trick' & as per Eldon's recommend, use a Cotton Rope, to minimize the paint removal that you mention... I will add that I've been totally pleased with a portable Red Dragon Pre-Heater these last two winters, & generally use it anytime the overnight temp is below 30. It runs 170 degree air over the engine for the 10+ minutes we're loading & pre-flighting. You can even warm the cabin & instruments with it... (-: I very much appreciate those like you who are 'the glue' hold our local group together... Blessings of the Season to all, Richard www.GoldenBridgeSeminars.com "And the day came when the risk it took to remain tight inside the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." --- Anais Nin From gem at rellim.com Wed Dec 17 17:06:45 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:06:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Big Christmas Party Thursday! Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! It is that time of year again! The big CO-OPA Holiday party is upon us. If you only attend one meeting a year this is the one! 6:00pm we'll start off with the usual hanger flying and chit-chat. 6:30pm will be our famous pot luck. The main dish of roast turkey will be provided so concentrate on side dishes and deserts. 7:00pm a short business meeting, John Miller director of the COCC aviation program, followed by our Yankee Swap. If you want to participate be sure to bring wrapped aviation related white elephant gift. Looking forward to seeing all of you there. RGDS GARY - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97701 gem at rellim.com Tel:+1(541)382-8588 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJSaIoBmnRqz71OvMRAsRKAJ9UhzvcR+4dWqKlF73qJL8HoQCEFQCfU7Cz /EQ7noPFJ6+NuCVqHCnCSdY= =nbug -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From gem at rellim.com Fri Dec 19 13:54:01 2008 From: gem at rellim.com (Gary E. Miller) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:54:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Co-opa] Fly Out this Saturday Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! When I mentioned a real flyout this Saturday all I heard back was laughter. To go with the flow of the Holiday SPirit our 'flyout' this Saturday will be to Palmer's Cafe at 645 NE Greenwood Ave that is between 5th and 6th street on the south side of Greenwood in the back of the motel parking lot. Hope to see a big turnout at 9am! 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